"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Cant get the c&f going!

PooMan

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So im great at the ****y and funny! use it on loads of gals but theres this one gal who i just cant use to perfectly on! Its not that she doesnt like it when i do it, its i just struggle to use it because whats being said doesnt suit it!

Anyway gonna keep trying to do it, im doing fine with her atm without it but iam trying to use it to the maximum on her!

also when i jokingly tease her she says its an insult when normally im used to gals saying "oh thats mean" but she says something like "youve insulted me again" its the same thing right? and how can i reply to this? its just a lil difficult at times! like once she said to me "im not just a pretty face" so i said "some would say your not even that hehe" and she said "thats another insult!" is this good?


I was texting her tonite, and i know she loves malteaser celebrations and ive arranged to go to the cinema with her next week! and she mentioned the insults and said "im being patient with you ****" so i said "why are you being patient with me? and why are you letting me take you to the cinema? is it just coz of the celebrations im gonna bring?"

she said "yep just coz of them, nothing beats a malteaser celebration" so i said "well if i do bring them u will have to do something to deserve a malteaser!" and she said "well your gonna have to help me here, what do i have to do to get one?"

what would you of said here?

i said "well ill give you time to think about it, let me know tomorrow what youve come up with hehe night night sexy x"

not sure if it was good enough? i dunno!

what can i do at the cinema with her and the celebrations?

how about making her kiss me for each one or something, or should i work my way upto the kiss with them? any ideas?

ta

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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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why are you letting me take you to the cinema? is it just coz of the celebrations im gonna bring?

Your approach is all wrong. You are saying up front that you have to bribe her to be with you. You are the prize, not her. She has to work to be with you, not get paid gifts for being with you.

And when she says "you insulted me" just tell her she has thin skin and is too sensitive.
 

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I'm not sure that you even speak.... English... but I think I understood your post.

Look, "****y and funny" is a very small part of the game. You're trying WAAAAAAAAAAAY too hard here.

There are a lot of negative vibes in what you're saying to her. C&F is supposed to be FUN.

The good news is, you're travelling down the right path. I was where you were about a year ago -- using C&F "lines" to "game" chicks.

I didn't actually get laid with that, but I learned a lot.

The Game is about a lot more than C&F lines.

Remember, C&F is laughter centered around her. Don't be an a-hole.

In reply to your specific question, I would've told her she has to be a nice girl on her best behaviour, because that's really what I would've wanted.

(It also implies that she's a bad girl.)

"night night sexy" WTF is this?

Don't call her 'sexy'. This is a creepy lame-ass compliment.

You CAN compliment women but jesus don't do it like that.

After a massage the other night, I was lying on this girl's back (lightly :D), kissing and lightly biting her neck and shoulders, and I said, very slowly and seductively,

"You... are very beautiful."

This doesn't make me an AFC. It makes her feel good because I have obviously, er, 'investigated' thoroughly before coming to that conclusion. I said it with confidence and without supplication.

It relaxes her, and women need to be relaxed before sex.

If I had said "you're sexy, hehe" I would've sounded like a horny eight year old.
 

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Go watch David D's ****y Comedy video...how you get it is at your discretion *wink*
 

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just a wild guess she isnt a 9 or a 10 huh? neg hitting is better for 9's and 10's.....with 8 765's u gotta be more subtle with



- Smooth Player 056 -
Founder and Creator of the HSDJBC/ Contest
Founder of Ultimate HSDJ Technique
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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she said "yep just coz of them, nothing beats a malteaser celebration" so i said "well if i do bring them u will have to do something to deserve a malteaser!" and she said "well your gonna have to help me here, what do i have to do to get one?"

'Hmm, I'm sure you can think of something. Use your imagination.' ;)
 

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so ive got a reply from her this morning

"now these have been tough desicions, pleasing you isnt that easy you know! but im pretty confident you will like these! a hop and a skip? my undivided attention? or a tour of my bedroom?"

how could i reply to that?
 

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don't worry mate, she definitely wants in, just make sure you dont take the c&f to a level where it is an outright insult, remember c&f is about a subtle compliment aswell. Keep it up, go with your instincts
 

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All of the above.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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"im not just a pretty face" so i said "some would say your not even that hehe" and she said "thats another insult!" is this good? <=== HAHAHA that made me lol.
 
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