Can't get the actual date 9/10 times even with big IoI's - suggestions guys?

[TheGambino]

Sup guyz,

I seem to have problems to land the actual date. I kiss close a girl on a party fo example, she stays around me, gives me all IoI's tells her friends im cute and go on. Another partic girl laughs to me everytime I come to the bar she works at she grabbs my phone flirts and puts in her number without me asking. She texts me and asks me if im going out that night and that I should, told her to come over to my house, she tells me that she can't coz (blabla). Never mind she texts me some sh1t again later that week I respond short coz im busy. 2 days ago I send her ''Hey *name Let's go for a drink I know a fun bar at partic loc'' ''Sunday works for you?'' Her: No sory having dinner with some friends sory..'' with no counter offer.

I number closed so many girls myself too the last months but only a few respond to texts where I sugges to meet up. I mostly go like: Let's get a drink this week when r you free? 90% tells me i'm busy or can't that day without a counter offer.

Another girl said the same, didn't want to meet up, after texting back and forth for hours she finally got out with me. So girls are for 95% even after big IoI's not interested in meeting up. MOst of these girls I only have convo's with for 5-15 mins and leave yet they give me their number respond quick and all but meeting up... very few.

Everything going well got my plates after rapport, mostly in situations where I have to meet them coz of school or so. I make 'em laugh have fun and they suggest to meet up. But the text approach with new girls I number closed in 2 mins 'lets go for a drink' doesnt work too many times, guys is that lack of interest, to less rapport? what is it? and what could be another approach to do it.

I know something like ''Im going to pool in a cool bar sunday, you can join me if you want'' Ill try that though.!

 

[TheCWord]

All the girls you've described are interested in you as an orbiter and that's it. Once you meet a girl who's not an AW and is actually interested in you, then you'll get the date without excuses. That'll come. Patience, grasshopper.

To help facilitate that and better your odds, and to weed out these AWs, stop giving these girls only one night as an option. Let her give you the options. Instead of "come over tonight" and "Sunday works for you?" how about: "What nights are good for you this week?" If she writes back something like, "Monday and Thursday" then there ya go, pick the night that works for you and enjoy. If she's magically busy all week and doesn't counter with something for next week then she's just another one of these AWs who just want you as an orbiter.

 

[Dgwizdal]

Not enough rapport. Day 2 game is needed. Stop asking them to get a drink. Send a couple banter texts to reestablish rapport/attraction after first encounterr and then leave them hanging for a few days. I usually tease them for being a bad Influence on a good kid like me in some way or fashion establishing them as the instigator and keeping things fun.

Then, tell them you will be at so and so place or doing an activity and then TELL them to come meet you to cause some trouble. Words things more playfully and bust their balls/challenge them.

Example: hey trouble, where are you dancin tonight?

Ex: Dancing on tables at xxx tonight. Stop by to see the show


Chances are that if your day 2 game is tite enough and ten you fall off the face of the planet - they will be texting you and it will be a synch to establish the right vibe...

Girl: hey gambino, what are you doing tonight?
You: oh no, you again
Girl: haha jerk!
You: don't call me names miss
Girl: you're funny! Want to grab a drink later?
You: maybe - you're a bad influence.
Her: bad influence = more fun
You: come to blah blah and prove it...


Just keep it light, cool, funny, at arms length and she will come to you instead of going for the kill everytime.

Once she's into you and you have hung out a few times - you will be able to text "you're mine tonight, wear black" and she will be down to kick it without a second thought.

 

[TheGambino]

Yeea Dgwizdalll, I know, I need to be more c*cky funny idd. I feel ya, Imma try that ty for inspiration

 

[JoeMarron]

Not enough rapport. Day 2 game is needed. Stop asking them to get a drink. Send a couple banter texts to reestablish rapport/attraction after first encounterr and then leave them hanging for a few days. I usually tease them for being a bad Influence on a good kid like me in some way or fashion establishing them as the instigator and keeping things fun.

Then, tell them you will be at so and so place or doing an activity and then TELL them to come meet you to cause some trouble. Words things more playfully and bust their balls/challenge them.

Example: hey trouble, where are you dancin tonight?

Ex: Dancing on tables at xxx tonight. Stop by to see the show


Chances are that if your day 2 game is tite enough and ten you fall off the face of the planet - they will be texting you and it will be a synch to establish the right vibe...

Girl: hey gambino, what are you doing tonight?
You: oh no, you again
Girl: haha jerk!
You: don't call me names miss
Girl: you're funny! Want to grab a drink later?
You: maybe - you're a bad influence.
Her: bad influence = more fun
You: come to blah blah and prove it...


Just keep it light, cool, funny, at arms length and she will come to you instead of going for the kill everytime.

Once she's into you and you have hung out a few times - you will be able to text "you're mine tonight, wear black" and she will be down to kick it without a second thought.

Golden. You can't just ask them out out of the blue. You need to reignite the good emotions that you gave them when you first met, then go for the date. Also, I can't emphasise this enough, TEASE THE FVCK OUTTA WOMEN. Just like Dgwizdal just illustrated, nearly everything you communicate to a woman should be in the form of teasing.

 

[Bace]

Not enough rapport. Day 2 game is needed. Stop asking them to get a drink. Send a couple banter texts to reestablish rapport/attraction after first encounterr and then leave them hanging for a few days. I usually tease them for being a bad Influence on a good kid like me in some way or fashion establishing them as the instigator and keeping things fun.

Then, tell them you will be at so and so place or doing an activity and then TELL them to come meet you to cause some trouble. Words things more playfully and bust their balls/challenge them.

Yeah i had.am having trouble with this. Thing is you would think a strong frame would go directly for the day2, like i did on 1st or 2nd text but it has high flake rate/ no response. Even tho its not me im leaning more towards this warming up, almost like you need a hook point all over again in order to seed for the Day2.

So if im right you suggest: Disqualifying and then not texts, then cf then day 2 text.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Numbers Are Meaningless

I number closed so many girls myself too the last months but only a few respond to texts where I sugges to meet up.

The problem is your breaking momentum. Remember, women are creatures of emotions and they respond to the emotions that you're giving them at the moment in time. I remember reading this somewhere in "The Pick Up Artist" that a woman will voluntarily and excitedly give up the digits just based off the positive energy and emotions that you're giving them right there at that moment in time and based off of that moment in time, the chick truly intents on speaking to and seeing you again. However, after that initial rush has worn off and she's back in her normal state. She's thinking about about what she did and realized that she gave her number to a random stranger.

What you need to do is build more of an emotional connection and bounce the chicks from where you initially met them at to another location, then number close. Hell, I would even daresay, try and KISS CLOSE before you number close, to REALLY solidify that number close.