"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Having strayed from the forums for a while, and neglecting to practice my DJ skills, I have come back with more focus than ever to study, practice, and learn a variety of seduction techniques. I decided to branch out a bit from the SoSuave world and take a look at other sources. I read the Definitive Book of Body language by Barbara Pease, a book I intend to reread several times and highly recomend for self improvement in all aspects of human interaction. After that I searched around for videos on youtube and other sights with little success.

Finally, the hype of Mystery's The Pickup Artist reached my ears and I decided to watch as well as look into his material. Along the way I picked up a copy of Neil Strauss' The Game and am nearly through that as well.

It was from those last two sources that I learned a little about canned material. I had always thought of this as more of a corny disregarded aspect of the community, but it seems to be a huge aspect I have been missing out on.

I've spent most of my time working on my inner flaws and never took the time to really asses my outer game. I am thinking of creating my own personal notebook of stories and openers to memorize and practice in the field. Has anyone out there had experience in doing this? What are your opinions on canned material? Can anyone offer tips on writing it? What are some good routines people have thought up in the past?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Check out fastseduction.com.

People here will tell you not to use canned material, but IF YOU WRITE IT YOURSELF, then I think it's great.
 

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Thanks for the tip Phyzzle, I'll check it out right now. I think I would have to write my own canned material because
1.) my main venue consists of high school parties and day game which are very different from nightclubs
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2.) using someone else's material would seem cheap and forced to me. I'm not looking for shortcuts, only tools to help me relieve a little approach anxiety.

Currently I have far more time to focus on learning theory than I do to practice it. Although I would greatly like to increase my improv abilities, having some set routines sounds like a tempting and practical solution to my lack of practice opportunities.
 

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There's a difference between using "tried and true" canned material, and original stuff you came up with.

I'm one of the people here who stay away from canned stuff. I just don't like it because it's not genuine. Do you really give a **** whether or not people prefer to floss before or after brushing?

Do what you need to do though.
 

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I used canned material for awhile, but it was always weird for me to use it. I used the "do you floss before or after you brush" line more times than I can remember, and it never really worked for me, because I didn't really care about the topic at hand. I personally think the most effective "pick up line" is "Hi" coupled with a genuine smile. Do what works for you though.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I came up with one a long time ago that I still bust out on occasion. I was actually wondering this one day when I was standing in line at the grocery store.

"Hey doyou read Cosmo? How is it that that magazine can come up with 100 different sex secrets EVERY MONTH? Are guys just getting stupid or what?"

HAHA, I love it. It works for me. Try it.
 

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Canned material is good when you're a beginning. The reactions become predictable and you know what to do afterwards. I believe saying "Hi" is the best openers, but it requires the guy to be good at improvising and a skilled conversationalist. It's much easier to start with canned material, then slowly switch to freestyle.

I agree with what the posters above said with making up your own canned lines. Start off with a few and see what works, then keep suing the same ones that work.
 

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The only reason I wanted to try it was because of the 3 second rule. I often find myself lacking an opener, and just saying hi doesn't really lead me into a conversation. I find myself making excuses and trying to think of an opener, usually at this time I've been there too long and just seem like another chump scratching his head for something to say. The thing is, if i can get a girl talking just a tiny bit, I usually do well picking up on the different conversation threads she gives me. When I'm introduced to girls I do an alright job, but I can't seem to make that initial connection on my own.

How do you guys keep from choking while opening a set?
 

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I'm only 20 so I'm not very experienced with what to do in a bar or club, but I usually start out talking to a girl about something we obviously have in common, like the fact that we're out shopping for clothes or how boring the class is getting. Then I try to bust their balls a little bit (playfully) before I get to know them a little bit.

Also, it seems like if you wait too long to approach a girl, and you sit around thinking about it ("Should I approach her, what should I say, I wonder if she has a boyfriend") you tend to psyche yourself out. It's best to just make the decision to do it and do it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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How bout "DO you wipe yourass before ofter you take a shyt?" That one would work great.:p
 

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What is wrong with canned Material? (*Opens a can of worms...*Pun intended)
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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