"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Can you tell she sleeps around by her answers?

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I had this discussion with this girl on a date about sexual partners, she said to me 'but don't guys want a girl who's experienced??'

I said 'yeah but ideally in our heads we'd prefer a girl who had few if any previous sexual partners'

She went quiet after that. Should I assume that she sleeps/slept around in her younger years? She's 23.

Also after trying to kiss her she said 'this used to be so much easier for me when I was younger.. I had no problems trying to kiss a guy'
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Confused said:
I had this discussion with this girl on a date about sexual partners, she said to me 'but don't guys want a girl who's experienced??'

I said 'yeah but ideally in our heads we'd prefer a girl who had few if any previous sexual partners'

She went quiet after that. Should I assume that she sleeps/slept around in her younger years? She's 23.

Also after trying to kiss her she said 'this used to be so much easier for me when I was younger.. I had no problems trying to kiss a guy'
When a girl asks a question like that, she isn't asking for the fun of it. It's an information gathering, loaded question. She has a past and she wants to know how you feel about it. You all but confirmed to her that she won't be able to feel comfortable with you and the attempted kiss later on confirmed that when she hesitated and acted weird.

You screwed this one up. Move on.
 

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She sounds like an ex *****...Seems like you came in a couple years late on this one.
 

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She is a ho and you are making the whole interaction too serious.. hos hate that.. cause then they have to worry about being labeled as the ho that they are and persecuted..

The most important thing to women and hos is feeling comfortable and not having to worry about judgement which is why many women and hos will have hundreds of secret sex flings with random unknown nameless men that they will never reveal to anyone..

You have to remember that women and hos keep many different men around for many different reasons and you have to decide wether you want to be her "boyfriend while she has causal sex with other noobligated dudes or do you want to be the other non obligated dude Fing her while she has a "boyfriend" at home..?
 

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Obviously she was qualifying, but I don't think failing a qualification hurts you nearly as much as radio implies... sometimes it can help you.

Often this one girl I was seeing who had a much more "interesting past" would drop bits like that to see how I responded. I was always straight up honest with her about behaviors I approved or didn't approve of. But I phrased it in a sympathetic way (at the danger of coming off as a captain-save-a-ho). For example, when she would bring up her past, I would dismiss her "experience" with phrases like "mmm, that's sad. you weren't really experiencing relationships as they were meant to be..." etc. and then leave it like that. When you think about it, it's a very gentle neg. She'll naturally wonder what you think that "meant to be" really means. Let he find out by your actions, not your words.

Knowing I disapproved of her past, but wasn't going to crucify her for it, she spent the next few months clearing her skeletons little bits at a time and playing it cool until I pretty much knew it all.

In short, I wouldn't shy away from failing a qualification if you need too, just be smart about it.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Confused said:
I had this discussion with this girl on a date about sexual partners, she said to me 'but don't guys want a girl who's experienced??'

The answer to this question is this: The number of previous sexual partners has nothing to do with how good in bed a girl is. A girl can have sex with only one man in her life, and still be a total freak, providing that man taught her well over time. The girls that are the best in bed, are the ones who've had long relationships, and have had to try many new things just to 'spice it up.'

I said 'yeah but ideally in our heads we'd prefer a girl who had few if any previous sexual partners'

She went quiet after that. Should I assume that she sleeps/slept around in her younger years? She's 23.

Always assume ALL girls have slept around, and will continue to do so. In this day and age, they use any justification they can to be a slvt, including 'but don't guys want a girl who's experienced??'

Also after trying to kiss her she said 'this used to be so much easier for me when I was younger.. I had no problems trying to kiss a guy'


Even though she is admitting she is a hor, you kind of have to keep your mouth shut, if you want to get laid, here. But the womanspeek translation for that may be "You're not making me feel comfortable enough for this, and Im afraid you think Im a slvt."
Its hard to keep quiet when they tell you shyt like that, but its necessary.
 

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Its hard to keep quiet when they tell you shyt like that, but its necessary.
I think the frustrating thing is that I won't get to bang her now and she's a former slvt, or still is 1. Why is it that they'll sleep with some guys and not others?

Was I bracketed into the potentially bf material bracket so she was 'rationing out the pvssy' so to speak?

I noticed she would give me a little bit more on each date, i.e. 1st date she wouldn't even let me kiss her on the cheek when i greeted her (WTF?? Is that some overcompensation reaction that she was a former slvt? the 2nd date she'd let me kiss her neck etc but no lips, then 3rd date she'd let me do the same but wouldn't let me kiss her lips but would lick mine.

That sexual partners conversation kind of came on the 3rd date I think.

Also, she'd mention things from time to time about what other 'girls' did i.e. 'i can't believe some of these girls here I was with at my other language school, they'd sleep around so much! It's quite shocking how they behave in a club.'

Is this a clear bullsh1t test to see what my views are on girls that sleep around?
 

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I noticed she would give me a little bit more on each date, i.e. 1st date she wouldn't even let me kiss her on the cheek when i greeted her (WTF?? Is that some overcompensation reaction that she was a former slvt? the 2nd date she'd let me kiss her neck etc but no lips, then 3rd date she'd let me do the same but wouldn't let me kiss her lips but would lick mine.
Theres a good possibility that the other guys just tried harder, and were more persistant, and escalated harder than you. I've made the same mistake. 'Bad Boys' wont take no as easily as nice guys. Thats one reason they get laid more.
 

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horaholic said:
Theres a good possibility that the other guys just tried harder, and were more persistant, and escalated harder than you. I've made the same mistake. 'Bad Boys' wont take no as easily as nice guys. Thats one reason they get laid more.
Well she called me pushy so I clearly was forcing the issue?

Also I do distinctly remember before we kissed for the first time that she said 'and i like that u are pushy and willing to keep going for it..'

I said something along the lines of 'i know i'm being pushy..' she interrupts me with 'and i love u for that..'
 

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DonGorgon said:
She is a ho and you are making the whole interaction too serious.. hos hate that.. cause then they have to worry about being labeled as the ho that they are and persecuted..

The most important thing to women and hos is feeling comfortable and not having to worry about judgement which is why many women and hos will have hundreds of secret sex flings with random unknown nameless men that they will never reveal to anyone..

You have to remember that women and hos keep many different men around for many different reasons and you have to decide wether you want to be her "boyfriend while she has causal sex with other noobligated dudes or do you want to be the other non obligated dude Fing her while she has a "boyfriend" at home..?
Ok I took it too serious, and that's why she doesn't want to see me anymore.. saying it's not 'fun' anymore. This clearly is a ho right?

She hides it well, but the warning signs were there before. How does she manage to keep it a secret if she's sleeping around with guys on campus or maybe just 1 FB? It's a small campus, word gets round.

Did she make him promise that if he tells any body or word gets out he won't get anymore pvssy?

Maybe I should 2nd guess her and scare her with, 'i know u have a reputation and an interesting past but i dont judge u for that.' this may shock her into wondering 'oh no what does he know about me?'
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ITS HER PAST..........if U don like her answers STOP asking questions.....go looking for some dirt and your bound to find it. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.........why complicate sex with words.....thats what chics do!!!!!!!!
 

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The weird thing is I'd actually be ok if she has a torrid past I'd just like to know what I'm dealing with cos I can only accept so much but I have a relatively high tolerance for ex-slvtty behaviour.

Stuff which unsettled me was when she was playing with a chess board and took the queen piece and put it next to the 2 kings, 1 white 1 black, and I said 'that doesn't go there..' she goes 'she does.. she's a dirty girl..' as if it's a 3some and I said 'even so the white queen goes with the white king on a chess board..' she goes 'no she's a dirty girl she should go here with the black king cos she's cheating on him..'

Should I read into this BS?

I just got this visual image that she had a 3some with 2 guys in her past hence her gesture.
 
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