"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Can you run the "GAME" on crazy women?

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You know what i'm talking about.. crazy women, who have had a rough past, abused, who got pregnant at 17, didn't have a dad, etc. etc...

I didn't know I was dating a crazy chick until one of her friends told me everythign about her past and no wonder I couldn't get anywhere with this chick. Her friend told me that she was telling her friend that she REALLY REALLY liked me but the weird thing I noticed is starting day ONE she couldn't give me a YES on a date. However, she would call me all the time like on saturday nights and friday nights and stuff and flirt wmad crazy with me at work. I even used pull and push on her.. still NOTHING.

Did anyone here experience similar thing?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I believe the better question is, "Do you WANT to".

To answer YOUR question, yes, crazy women are MORE susceptible to "game" than sane women, if anything. But you're not gonna want to do more than get your d!ck wet with them.
 

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squirrels said:
I believe the better question is, "Do you WANT to".
My question is why would you want to?
 

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squirrels said:
I believe the better question is, "Do you WANT to".
Crazy chicks can make you crazy too.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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First of all...assuming that any woman who has been through unpleasant experience is "crazy" is foolish...and it's simply not true. It's a person's CURRENT BEHAVIOR that is the only real indicator of their state of mental health.

Now...if a woman really is screwed up...then why on earth would you want to get involved with her anyway? The answer to that is that you are most likely a "rescuer". You want to be the Knight in Shining Armour that comes along, sweeps her off her feet, shows her love and protection...etc, etc...because you are under some false believe that in doing so she will be forever grateful, fall madly in love with you and "owe you" so much that she will never leave you.

You need to figure out WHY you are attracted/drawn to messed up women and fix that. Screwed up people (male or female) are not capable of having a healthy relationship. If you get involved with them you can typically expect for your heart to be ripped out of your throat and crammed up your arsehole.
 

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I agree with Wyldfire. People tend to attract the type they are most like.
 

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First of all, Wyldfire said nothing about ppl being attracted to ppl that they are most alike, but I think that's true. But, why would someone want a crazy woman? It's just one big headache. They constantly need alot of mental and physical abuse in the realationship for them to be at peace. They are not happy when there is not alot of problems going on in their love life. So, I would say don't go for crazy women or you will be giving yourself more of a headache than you need.
 

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Well that is my point though.

Men may want a crazy women because they themselves have low self-esteem so they seek out someone similar. They have their own baggage, probably feel deep down they don't deserve love or respect, so they find someone who cannot give them these things. Then they go into resucer mode, hoping to turn this person into someone who can love and respect them. They know there's no chance of that happening, but while they get lost in the drama, they are distracted from dealing with the real issues in their lives.

It's almost like they refuse to be happy, so they will find relationships and situations that perpetuate that.
 

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So, again, has anyone tried gaming a crazy chick? (You probably realized she was crazy after it was too late.)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Yes. They are crazy. You're playing with fire, and it will blow up in your face.

Have some standards for yourself. I don't understand, you're here because you want something to horrible to happen? Because that's the outcome. Let the losers game the crazy girls.
 

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It's generally agreed upon here that it's not conductive to happiness for guys here to pursue mentally unstable/crazy women.
 

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The crazy ones I've been around are the best lays and you don't NEED game. All you need is a p*nis and you're golden. They are usually a laundry list of insecurities and phobias that you can walk right into. If you don't mind spending time with someone who has a head full of the crazy.
 

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They will eat you alive. If you've gotten to the point that you're posting a thread about her, you are probably having feelings for her. Watch yourself. There may come a point where you don't know where you stop and she begins. Like invasion of the body snatchers.

Actually, now that I think about it... you don't game a crazy chick. They "are" game.
 

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OK, I'll answer it. I have been with some crazy women before, but you really don't have to "GAME" someone who is crazy. I was talking to this crazy, married 26 yr old blonde before, and I call her crazy because she would get drinking and invite me over to fvck her outside her house in the bushes at 1 AM in the morning with her hubby asleep in bed. She would tell me all the time that she has "never been a cheater" and that she "didn't wanna anything with her hubby" because she "loves him."

She also used to say she was "not a hor, just likes sex."

So, I said ok, that's fine. But, she ended up proving that that "never been a cheater" and "don't wanna ruin anything" was just a lie. No "gaming" is really involved with these weirdos. The only reason I was talking to her is because she was hot. If she wasn't, I wouldn't have even gave her a chance because she was married.

I told her if he caught me, her hubby would kill me, and she assured me that he would only be mad at her and not me. I didn't believe that. Of course, I turned that offer down that night and did it another night when he wasn't there. Didn't wanna take a bullet and do that with him there. But, sure go ahead and see how it goes my man with a crazy chick.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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ryannath said:
But, sure go ahead and see how it goes my man with a crazy chick.
Exactly. Because sex is ALL THAT MATTERS to a man.
 

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this is a little bit similar to my "Kino resistance" thread -- WHICH NO ONE RESPONDED TO, BTW...
 

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In response to the op:

If a woman blew me off multiple times when I asked her out, I probably wouldn't care how much she flirted with me otherwise. She'd get nexted. What's the point of her flirtation if it leads no where? Crazy or not, she's acting like an attention wh0re, and I can't stand those.
 

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squirrels said:
I believe the better question is, "Do you WANT to".

To answer YOUR question, yes, crazy women are MORE susceptible to "game" than sane women, if anything. But you're not gonna want to do more than get your d!ck wet with them.
Exactly, I was gaming this girl at uni once, and she was a bit tipsy...and in the middle of a conversation she blurts out, "I was raped once" and bursts into tears....needless to say I made my excuses and left....not someone you wanna be fvcking with, or fvcking at all for that matter.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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