"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Can you help a b*tch?

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I know that, for dating purposes, you should NEXT b*tches.

Now I've had a long relationship (1.5 years or so) with a b*tch, so I know the truth of this. I want nothing to do with them for sex/relationship purposes, however physically attractive they may be.

Here's the thing: there are a ton of them out there! We all know this. As I've been meeting/dating new girls and exploring, I find that a large percentage of them are complete b*tches.

So I quickly know that I want no "relationship" with them, yet I can't help but feel extreme pity for them. Is this just the "save-a-ho" syndrome, and should I resist it? Because even though I know that I don't want to date them, I always wish I could somehow help them to not be so bitter, cranky, whiny, and insecure. They're completely miserable and I feel compassion to make them "see" how much better life could be if they changed their attitude. That most of the negativity they see in the world around them is really their creation. I really think insecurity is the root of it all for them.

And yet my logical judgment tells me I should eliminate all contact with them: my attempt at helping will be futile and their negativity will only seep into my life.

What do you all think about this?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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The best thing you can do to help such women is to leave them alone.

Very alone.

Loneliness is the only lesson that teaches them to change their ways.

The problem is their sh!tty parents and our sh!tty image obsessed society.

So yeah just do your best to find happy fun loving girls and bail on any chick that tells you she's suffering depression or taking medication or is a feminist or any of that other crap and by having this kind of filter in place you filter out all the crap women and hopefully you'll find some gold.
 

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KontrollerX said:
The problem is their sh!tty parents and our sh!tty image obsessed society.


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A large part of their misery comes from them having absurd expectations about their "entitlements" which are never fulfilled because they are so unrealistic.

If you were raised to believe that you are a "princess" and the media reinforced this by showing women to be "independent and strong" ,and can "have it all " then you are likely to believe that your rewards will surely flow when you step out into the adult world.

Then the education system tells you that women have been "oppessed" by men and that you should demand "respect" from men without having to do anything to earn it. ( "respect " = fawning and obedience )

All this eventually transforms itself into a belief that you are due a model-handsome wealthy husband who fulfils your every whim, and provides you with a life of extravagance and indulgence without you lifting a finger. You will have your hair and nails done twice a week inbetween shopping on his card and daily trips to that upscale health club with Sven the personal trainer who flirts with you so much that you are sure that he "wants " you REAL bad.

Of course when all this does not come true you become bitter, resentful, and baitchy.
 
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KontrollerX said:
Loneliness is the only lesson that teaches them to change their ways.

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Unfortunately, most of them are not smart enough to figure this out. They really are not willing to connect their attitudes with the results that they are getting - it is somehow all mens fault.
Hence all the fools on the dating sites whining about " no good men".
 

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Dupe.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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It ok to feel bad for them, and it's ok to show them kindness and try to help them see the error in their ways, however futile that may be.

Dating them, however, will NOT help them--they will only leech off your happiness and bring you down.

Dating is NOT an act of charity. You AREN'T being nice by dating someone out of pity.

You shouldn't feel bad about rejecting a girl because she's crazy, b!tchy, overweight, etc. because there are plenty of guys out there that WILL want to be with her. No girl (or guy) truly has NO options. It's better to leave them for someone that truly wants to be with them rather than pulling this faux-noble stuff.

I do agree that it's sad that so many girls have terrible attitudes so young.
 

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Thanks for the thoughts and advice. I think for the most part I will leave these girls alone. Very alone, lol.

I learned the hard way not to date them. Dating them will not help them, only hurt you. And I'm thinking friendship would follow a similar course.

Really, all worthwhile men (and I'm working towards being more worthwhile each day) should leave them alone until they make an effort to fix their attitudes. They are the only ones with control over their attitudes and like it or not it's their responsibility.

It does fill me with a deep sadness though. I used to get angry upon discovering the b*tches' attitudes, but now I really just feel pity. In hindsight, the anger I experienced before was at myself, for putting up with the nastiness and not creating proper boundaries.

What a world... so full of AFCs and B*TCHES. lol. Is it me or do these two archetypes complement and reinforce one another?
 

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What a world... so full of AFCs and B*TCHES. lol. Is it me or do these two archetypes complement and reinforce one another?
Yep- baitches will florish as long as there are enough chumps to tolerate their nastiness. This is the complementary pathology which you alluded to.

A strong confident man will never convert a baitch into a kitten. Why bother. The baitches just move on to find a chump who will "love" them .
 

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yes it is cap'n saveaho rearing his ugly head. you're almost there. next step is to not feel sorry for them. feel sorry for little kids who grow up in The Congo, but not these women who don't like the level of Vodka in their Martini.
 
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