Can you condition yourself to enjoy lower SMV women?

[oldmanofthesea]

Recently divorced and just learning Game.

Have been in two LTRs since I was 23, with only a year between them, and am now 40 so my dating experience is minimal and the majority of my dating life has taken place in the last 2 years since my divorce.

My issue is that I find very few women attractive. I don't go for models or 10s, but there are just certain things I find sexy and certain things I don't. Most guys I know would say my two exes were very attractive but not the kind of attractive that turns heads. Mostly petite girl-next-door types with nice bodies. It's part looks and part attitude.

My problem: I run into VERY few available women that I find attractive, I don't often match in OLD with the kind of women I find attractive, and I don't enjoy sleeping with lower SMV women. I've forced myself to sleep with around 6-8 lower SMV women in the last year but it is so unpleasurable to me that I often can't get it up or keep it up. I literally got some Viagra just to push myself to continue sleeping with lower SMV women and while it fixes the bone issue, it doesn't make the sex enjoyable for me at all. I also don't get to where I really enjoy sex with a girl until I've been seeing her for 6-8 weeks or so, which isn't something I am happy about either.

I'd love to be able to have one night stands and just enjoy it for what it is. Also, based on my being newly single and needing to practice my game, I would love to be able to date women with lower SMV who are easier for me to get in quantity, but it's just not enjoyable - so much so that I literally can't motivate to go and do it because it feels like going to work at a ****ty job and paying the employer for the privilege.

I know most guys aren't this way. None of my friends are. But I'm posting this in hopes that some of you out there were like this at one point and figured out a way to move past it. If so, please share your secret.

 

[Spaz]

As long as she's not fat then go for it. Any girl is good for practice.

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

If you’re using too much porn, cut way back on it. It will make you hornier & not as addicted/conditioned to the body type that is your ideal.

Like you, it also takes me a while to adjust to sex with a new woman. You’re not alone there. Try not to over think it.

While there may be few women that have the total overall package looks wise that you want, there are probably many who have some physical feature that turns you on (great azz, b00bs, etc). If you are spinning plates you can have different women that each have something unique. That type of variety can also be a turn on.

Also, are you dating younger women? If not, give that a try.

-Augustus-

 

[oldmanofthesea]

Thanks for the replies. Augustus, I always date younger women because I'm 40 and look a lot younger. But for me, "younger" means around 30-35. I've dated a couple women in their 20's but have much less success with them, especially in OLD. I'm trying to work on my in-person game. Honestly haven't picked up a single girl outside of OLD since my divorce two years ago. Been reading a lot and preparing to practice that.

It's good to know I'm not alone about taking a while to adjust to sex with a new woman. I'm hoping that will fade away with experience.

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

Thanks for the replies. Augustus, I always date younger women because I'm 40 and look a lot younger. But for me, "younger" means around 30-35. I've dated a couple women in their 20's but have much less success with them, especially in OLD. I'm trying to work on my in-person game. Honestly haven't picked up a single girl outside of OLD since my divorce two years ago. Been reading a lot and preparing to practice that.

OLD Is holding you back. It’s much easier to date younger women when you meet them in person. Online, women are automatically going to screen for age. If I used OLD (which I don’t), the youngest I would get would probably be 10 years younger. In real life, I can pull 20 years younger.

Also, do the basics if you’re not already (lift, new clothes, posture, exude confidence).

-Augustus-

 

[MrWood]

keep your standards
you might even find you cant get hard for a chix below your certain HB#
I simply cannot do less than HB6, in my scale rating, tried, failed, forget it

rub it out... go for gold or go home

 

[mrgoodstuff]

keep your standards
you might even find you cant get hard for a chix below your certain HB#
I simply cannot do less than HB6, in my scale rating, tried, failed, forget it

rub it out... go for gold or go home

Personally I think it's better to have real sex vs jagging off. Even if the appearance isn't your preference.

 

[Billtx49]

It can work very short term if the lights are off at bang time, but long term it’s both a psychological and sexual no go for a man, and you start to think why am I wasting my time with this less than desireable broad…

 

[MrWood]

I literally cant get it up without a certain level of physicality
Still feel like crap from a ONS date 4yrs ago with a HB5 about 40 (Finnish blonde, decently large firm breasts, but 5'4 and 170lbs)
And she complained that I wasnt really that hard. Im 8+ (and considered very skilled), i literally could not find her slit due pvssy slime from fat wrinkle on the inner thigh to the actual hole...
from behind it looked like a rhino, literally a female rhinos ass and pvssy

yes, I would rather jack kthnx

 

[Red Legg]

No...I have to be with a hot chicky poo...My GF I currently have is an HB 8 and I can easily get off,on top of that I must have a woman who is really fvcking kinky.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I literally cant get it up without a certain level of physicality
Still feel like crap from a ONS date 4yrs ago with a HB5 about 40 (Finnish blonde, decently large firm breasts, but 5'4 and 170lbs)
And she complained that I wasnt really that hard. Im 8+ (and considered very skilled), i literally could not find her slit due pvssy slime from fat wrinkle on the inner thigh to the actual hole...
from behind it looked like a rhino, literally a female rhinos ass and pvssy

yes, I would rather jack kthnx

So you'd rather a "hot girl" once every two months over getting head and pvssy twice a day from ladies 25 lb heavier than your standards?

 

[MrWood]

yes, I've said it 3x now...
why do you care where I put my c0ck?

I would rather go a year without sex than cross my own preferences

my OLD limits are set at 160lb
25lb isnt the issues, its that a woman needs to be height/weight proportionate
a 170lb at 5'4 is not the same as 5'8 at 170lb

It may be that my family was/is not obese, my mother was 5'1 100lb and very attractive
Myself am 5'8 160. If a woman tries on your jeans, and they cant fit because too tight... shes too fat

Im wondering if the men that do fvck overweight etc, if that body type mirrors the mother...

 

[Trump]

My problem: I run into VERY few available women that I find attractive, I don't often match in OLD with the kind of women I find attractive, and I don't enjoy sleeping with lower SMV women. I've forced myself to sleep with around 6-8 lower SMV women in the last year but it is so unpleasurable to me that I often can't get it up or keep it up. I literally got some Viagra just to push myself to continue sleeping with lower SMV women and while it fixes the bone issue, it doesn't make the sex enjoyable for me at all.

You sure it’s them and not you? The women you meet could have the exact same problem. They could meet few available guys they find attractive and force themselves to sleep with you.

This site really does have a Hollywood ego problem. Like we are all movie stars that should be paid to have sex with top actresses and models. The women should be so so lucky if we were to kiss them on the lips and fall in love with them. Don’t they know who we are?

Definitely when you are younger you can feel like that, but at 40 to feel like that? Got to be living in fantasy land.

 

[MrWood]

@Trump dont project your low self esteem and accecptance values on others

myself am 52, I get enough quality pvssy than I can handle

You obviously dont.

 

[oldmanofthesea]

Definitely when you are younger you can feel like that, but at 40 to feel like that? Got to be living in fantasy land.

This thread is more about whether or not it's possible to be attracted to women you don't currently find attractive, as opposed to determining whether myself or others are living in a fantasy land about who we are naturally attracted to. Your statements reaffirm my point though - let's say you are right and I am living in a fantasy land about who I'm attracted to and able to get.... so then what's the solution? The only solution I can think of is to try to figure out how to enjoy dating less attractive women, right? And that is exactly my question: Is it possible and if so how? Because as I said, I've tried and it hasn't worked so far.

You are also making assumptions about how I look and what I'm qualified to get based on my age alone. All I'm looking for is an even match; if we were out on a date, people wouldn't say "Wow, how did HE get HER" or "Wow, how did SHE get HIM?" But if I can't get that, for whatever reason, I'm trying to figure out how to enjoy less attractive women (especially to practice and gain experience with), which is what this post is about.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

This thread is more about whether or not it's possible to be attracted to women you don't currently find attractive, as opposed to determining whether myself or others are living in a fantasy land about who we are naturally attracted to. Your statements reaffirm my point though - let's say you are right and I am living in a fantasy land about who I'm attracted to and able to get.... so then what's the solution? The only solution I can think of is to try to figure out how to enjoy dating less attractive women, right? And that is exactly my question: Is it possible and if so how? Because as I said, I've tried and it hasn't worked so far.

You are also making assumptions about how I look and what I'm qualified to get based on my age alone. All I'm looking for is an even match; if we were out on a date, people wouldn't say "Wow, how did HE get HER" or "Wow, how did SHE get HIM?" But if I can't get that, for whatever reason, I'm trying to figure out how to enjoy less attractive women (especially to practice and gain experience with), which is what this post is about.

What if the types your attracted to have a lot of bad traits for ANYONE? MAYBE then you can start valueing for how they treat you?

 

[oldmanofthesea]

hat if the types your attracted to have a lot of bad traits for ANYONE? MAYBE then you can start valueing for how they treat you?

I'm 90% certain you are right. I'm working on that..... as others have suggested, I think my focusing on OLD only has probably amplified this issue, and I have only found out about red pill, Doc Love, Corey Wayne, etc, in the last couple months. But I know that putting what I've learned into practice is going to take time and I will fvck up - I was hoping to put that practice into work on girls who are "easier" for me to get because they are lower SMV than I think I could normally get - just during the first 6-12 months of experimentation so I can get my numbers up. I feel like my progress will be much slower and more frustrating if I'm only approaching women I think are very attractive because these are so few and far between.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I'm 90% certain you are right. I'm working on that..... as others have suggested, I think my focusing on OLD only has probably amplified this issue, and I have only found out about red pill, Doc Love, Corey Wayne, etc, in the last couple months. But I know that putting what I've learned into practice is going to take time and I will fvck up - I was hoping to put that practice into work on girls who are "easier" for me to get because they are lower SMV than I think I could normally get - just during the first 6-12 months of experimentation so I can get my numbers up. I feel like my progress will be much slower and more frustrating if I'm only approaching women I think are very attractive because these are so few and far between.

Player supreme would knock guys pedastalling "hot girls". For he knows they are basically 6 And 7 with makeup, hair, accessories, and running a similar "script". Hot girl game is going to be like a DJ for females. They don't get attached, aren't giving, aren't too nice and are unreliable.

 

[MrWood]

i dont date women who wear much, if any makeup or lipstick...
they still need to be HB7+ without it
I dont pedalize any of them... wtf is happening to SS ???

 

[oldmanofthesea]

Same. I go for women who most people would call a 7, and who don't need to wear much makeup. I'd just like to be able to enjoy and practice on 5's and 6's.