"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Can you be honest AND succesful with women?

Thoroughbred

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I was wondering what your thoughts are on this:

I am pretty straight up with chicks... I tell them I don't want to have a serious relationship( it is boring, too much of a headache, etc)... sometimes they ask my thoughts on marriage and I tell them I don't plan on ever getting married...

Now, I have some success with women, but I don't know if this is working against me... if it is I don't care because I'd rather be honest than make a girl think she is the only one and cheat on her.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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THA REALNESS

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u have 2 lie

sometimes, if they ask u that again u say'well yeah...of course,one day" and that's,small lies 4 instance if ur work at the sewage dump,unless ur PROUD of it,u'll say u work 4 d city ,right?

it's all relative,man....unless it's something serious like,religion,political vievs ur stand on abortion,stuff like that >> u shouldn't even bring up in d 1st place but if she asks u can't lie about it now.
 

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Liars suck hairy horse penis.

Tha Realness, must you type with such poor english?

I cannot understand half of what you say, and all the ">> ," things you insert randomly dont help either.


Lying is stupid, don't get to the point of answering her questions. How can you be mysterious when you are sitting there spilling out your guts?

Most of the questions women ask are just done out of politeness.


Keep a fun conversation going, ABOUT HER, and dont worry about lying.


her: "So are you gonna get married?"
me: "damn girl! slow down, I'd have to rank you in the sac :D, I dont wanna be the guy who has to whack it every night cause hes wife cant put out"
 

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Very few women will ask you personal questions. They have no real interest in you, they like what you represent.
 

THA REALNESS

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poor english

Proper enghlish>>>>>>>. how old iz u fool?!?!?!?

Mysterious ,he don't gotta act mysterious in d first place ,u silly hoe !!!

and i would think with practice U being EXPERIENCED and all of that would know !!!!!

Really u don't GOTTA lie? ,really,??? would u really tell a woman why u REALLY broke up with ur ex,or that ur a virgin?? would u tell her if u lived at home with moms and them??? if u would u r a better man than me ,
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Thoroughbred

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Sometimes the subject of marriage and relationships just comes up... for example if many of your friends are getting married...

But, you are right... I don't really need to tell them exactly what I think...

I disagree with you Mr. Perfect... I find women to be very nosy and they like to ask personal questions, maybe not when you first meet them, but they eventually do and it doesn't take much time...
 

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Women are emotional beasts, your best luck is to feed off their emotion and tell them things little by little. Don't lie about it but take it slow in dishing out your past or things thay are private with you. Best phrase is: " That's all I can say now, but we can talk about it later!" That will essentially let them know there is more and you aren't lying!!

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What your talking about is possible. Some other guys I know call it being pimp-tight. It is how I live my life now. Years ago I was a major player and I lied and cheated and would say almost anything to get laid.

Now I tell them I am not your boyfriend. If you want one you better go find one and we can see each other on the side. I tell them that I do have other friends whom I see on occassion and that my life will not change.

It's called spitting your contract at her. If she accepts then you have one for your team.

My buddy just had his friend accept his contract...it took a lot of effort and trials & tribulations...ho' tests'...and the like before she accepted it.
 

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Re: Can you be honest AND successful with women?

Originally posted by Thoroughbred
...I am pretty straight up with chicks... I tell them I don't want to have a serious relationship( it is boring, too much of a headache, etc)... sometimes they ask my thoughts on marriage and I tell them I don't plan on ever getting married...

Now, I have some success with women, but I don't know if this is working against me...
This is definitely working against you since you are inadvertently scaring away even the women that feel the same as you. Why would anyone be afraid even if you are truthful and they feel the same way? It's because you are missing something that is even more important than truthfulness, and that's kindness.

Having your convictions are fine but the biggest thing about any type of effective communication is its delivery and you are probably coming off as being brash and unkind.

Consider revamping how you convey how you feel when asked. Instead of saying that you aren't looking for a relationship, try saying you are enjoying meeting different people. Instead of denouncing marriage tell them that you have yet to meet anyone who would inspire you to marry them. In each instance you let them know how you feel in a kind manner without scaring them off.

You know how most women enjoy trying to change a guy? Well leaving them the opportunity to try to change their mind will give YOU the opportunity to show them that you are set in your ways and they have the option of changing toward your views. All of this without alienating them.

Its all about presentation....
 

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Yep, you can be honest and successful, AND it does other DJ's a favor by leaving behind a lot less emotionally damaged women who want to turn men into AFC's. If you don't want her to know something, be mysterious about it. There is an old saying that goes like this: "If I told you, I'd have to kill you." Cliche'd maybe, but better than lying.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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You ultimately want to be a DJ, not be masqueraded by a DJ mask.
 
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