"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Can we officially say I am the DJ or what?

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Your post is confusing. Kinda like ADD confusing. To be honest, I started skimming. Is(are) there some sort of point(s) to your post? And if there is please put your points in a nice easy to read manner. Basically what I got from that post was "I am so great, and the reason why I am so great is because I am so great"
 

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Can you BOLD what you consider to be the insights we are supposed to gather from your successes? If you are infact the DJ, I am sure you have plenty of value to share with us here so please make it more clear by clearly laying out your points rather than a stream of consciousness ramble.
 

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Sorry I had to retype I kind of lost track of what I what I was going on about, But This should be stickied.

Share your techniques.

I have to add more I will be back in a bit.

Payne
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I don't like it when people doubt me so I'm not going to do it to you. But if you're 18 and you've had sex with 140 girls then you're either the pimpest mofo out there or the girls in your town are the loosest in the universe and I need a one way ticket. I've been to Toronto and London, Ontario and the girls are friendly so maybe....

As far as your post the best advice is to look girls straight in the eye with kind of a grin that says "I am a man and I get what I want."
 

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Haha something like that, :p You know what you want and you are gonna get it look, but I work like this. I know what I want, I want to get it, if I don't life goes on.

But yea this is a work in progress, I'll be one later a friend of mine is coming over and she is giving me a massage and I am pretty sore right now....

So yea I shall keep adding more and more, so, I hope this become a sticky, But the girls here aren't exactly all that loose, you just need to work with what you have, correction for you, it's in the middle of 150 - 160, but w/e. but I gotta run she is here

Payne
 

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Fortunate_Juan said:
Your post is confusing. Kinda like ADD confusing. To be honest, I started skimming. Is(are) there some sort of point(s) to your post? And if there is please put your points in a nice easy to read manner. Basically what I got from that post was "I am so great, and the reason why I am so great is because I am so great"
At first I thought your reply was of concern. Then I thought it could have been a slam. I continued reading and realized it was definitely a slam. Then it was readily apparent it was actually several slams. Finally you said what you felt was the purpose or general statement being made in which I concur. In the future when critiquing threads, could you reverse your manner of presentation in order for the rest of us to more easily recognize whether you believe the post sucks or not.

Thank you for your consideration... :D
 

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JPFromTally said:
But if you're 18 and you've had sex with 140 girls then you're either the pimpest mofo out there or the girls in your town are the loosest in the universe and I need a one way ticket.
Or
c) he's a liar

However, I do think he's made some good points in his post here whether he has really slept with 150 girls or not. So, taken on their own it really doesn't matter what his stats are.
 

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150?

Uh, sure... you're 18... at 150 girls, assuming you start at maybe 15 or 16, that's a chick every what, ten days?

Unlikely. You should be dead.

God knows how many kids you have.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
At first I thought your reply was of concern. Then I thought it could have been a slam. I continued reading and realized it was definitely a slam. Then it was readily apparent it was actually several slams. Finally you said what you felt was the purpose or general statement being made in which I concur. In the future when critiquing threads, could you reverse your manner of presentation in order for the rest of us to more easily recognize whether you believe the post sucks or not.

Thank you for your consideration... :D
Was I slamming?:whistle: I was rather hoping that wouldn't show through:whistle:
 

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Was I slamming?:whistle: I was rather hoping that wouldn't show through:whistle:
I was impressed. It was a thing of beauty and brought a tear to my eye. :cry:
 

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I am going to have to add more later, I need to eat something and have a smoke.
Payne, good to see women give into your attraction. However, being DJ involves a lot more than that. What is your reason for smoking? Addiction, coolness or enjoyment? Can you do all the OTHER things you want to do in life?

Trouble!
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I was impressed. It was a thing of beauty and brought a tear to my eye. :cry:
ROFL any time man.

Just tired of some posters runnin round like chicken little screamin "THE DJ'S IS FALLIN! THE DJ'S IS FALLIN!!" Some of the posters around here need a verbal clothes-line. And I am just the man for that job:trouble:
 

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ROFL any time man.

Just tired of some posters runnin round like chicken little screamin "THE DJ'S IS FALLIN! THE DJ'S IS FALLIN!!" Some of the posters around here need a verbal clothes-line. And I am just the man for that job:trouble:
I'm right there with 'ya man... Time to lay 'da Smack-down! :trouble:
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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MissionX said:
My fvck count is somewhere between 150 - 160

How I did this was hard. Through out the years, it took alot of game changing. The Way I protrayed myself, the way I talked to certain people. Girls vs Guys.


Payne
At 150-160 you should be running workshops and speaking with alot more conviction that you ARE a dj. And you got all these girls from getting OTHER girls in your school to put in a good word? No one found out you were a manhor? What school did you go to, I'm sending my kids there!
 

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I wanted to know what you prefer, Great Sex or, true love.
Good Example of C&F

Guy: "For some reason, your eyes make me wonder....."
Cut yourself off and look her in the eyes.
Girl: "..... what?"
Guy: "Sorry, you kind of trapped me there, You know you can tell alot about someone by there eyes...... I see that you are a kind hearted caring person."
This is good because it hooks her into hearing what you are thinking and by telling her what she is, you gave created the power over her to tell her what she is. If she gets used to this, you can mold her if you choose to.

Pull something out of nowhere, pre plan this always. have a rose or a note, say her to meet you somewhere later on. Hand it to her.
This might work in highschool but in the field out in the open (streets, clubs, lounges, parties) a rose in the early-game is AFC. The notes thing might be used to build suspense but what does your note say? Elaborate.

If you want a fast close, say you have to run, you have to be somewhere important, if she asks where, make something up, if you look hot say you have to go model or something like that. if your not say you have to meet one of your girlfriends somewhere in about ten minutes.
Good ol fashion lying to get her to think you are busy/important/high value and create pain and jealousy. Straight up seduction. Youre twisted man, oh so twisted. :crackup:
 
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This dude has the same persona as Skippy/Nasman!!!! Don't feed the trolls!!
 

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the 150 part may be a lie, but the post actually has a lot of merit.
 

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synergy1 said:
the 150 part may be a lie, but the post actually has a lot of merit.
I am sorry, but I have to disagree with you there. Why in the world would regurgitating (and not very well either) well known ideas from the bible be meritous?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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