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Can too much kino reek desperation?

BongDuy

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So i was hanging out with this one girl at the pool/ park and the whole time i was trying to run little kino moves ( slightly push her playfully, tap my foot against hers, little things) and there were some kino moves i thought were pretty interesting...

- Grabbing her in the pool around the waist and dunking her with me underwater
- I was talking about nails and i slowly and lightly scratched her thigh and moved down
- I laid my head in her lap
- I played with her shoelace?

I did a lot of things. She seemed very neutral and im starting to wonder if all my touchy feely kino is making me seem very desperate or creepy.

EDIT: I would of made a more bolder move, but her 13 year old cousin was with her. if not, i would of probably went for hand holding and maybe even kiss close.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

Speculator E

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BongDuy said:
- I was talking about nails and i slowly and lightly scratched her thigh and moved down
- I laid my head in her lap
- I played with her shoelace?

I did a lot of things. She seemed very neutral and im starting to wonder if all my touchy feely kino is making me seem very desperate or creepy.
Those are ways that girls use kino. She's probably think you're pretty feminine right now.
 

I'm in the Mood

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If you had to ask, there must be something that you thought was creepy based on a slight reaction from her. I say slight because it was probably a vibe you got and you're unsure if it's just you or if it's that she doesn't like you.

You were actually doing the wrong thing by continuing this kino in such detail. If she appeared to be "neutral," then you should lower your interest level to match hers.

Don't blame yourself though, you didn't know she wasn't into you. But do realize that girls usually can tell when a guy likes them. I'm afraid you'll have to either next this one and be friends or quit hanging out with her for awhile until your rapport is completely broken.

Either way, continue working on your game.
Everything you did was right! She just wasn't interested.

BongDuy said:
So i was hanging out with this one girl at the pool/ park and the whole time i was trying to run little kino moves ( slightly push her playfully, tap my foot against hers, little things) and there were some kino moves i thought were pretty interesting...

- Grabbing her in the pool around the waist and dunking her with me underwater
- I was talking about nails and i slowly and lightly scratched her thigh and moved down
- I laid my head in her lap
- I played with her shoelace?

I did a lot of things. She seemed very neutral and im starting to wonder if all my touchy feely kino is making me seem very desperate or creepy.

EDIT: I would of made a more bolder move, but her 13 year old cousin was with her. if not, i would of probably went for hand holding and maybe even kiss close.
 

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You need to stop being so conscious of when you're applying kino; that is if you want to grow.

Instead, embrace the joy of touch. Let it happen naturally, don't force it.

Women yearn to be touched, as long as you don't make a big deal out of it, they won't.
 

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Yes it can. It all depends how much value you place on the kino you give her. If you place High value, i.e. you look were your touching pause unnaturally before making a move display nervousness while making a move you can come across as desperate.

Just have fun with it and let your instincts guide you. biology will take its course if you just let go, relax and kino from a comfortable mindset.
 

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The thing I've learned about Kino is that you should try to push the boundaries. It's amazing what girls will let you get away with if you do it with confidence.

It seems to me like you're a little conscious about it. Just do what you want to do and try not to think about it consciously; just let it happen naturally.

If you seem nervous when you kino her, she'll pick up on it and she'll also be uncomfortable. If you're completely confident and unapologetic about what you do, you can practically dry hump her and she won't object.

I was once at a club with this chick and this one d-bag guy I know started practically fvcking her on the dance floor. He barely knew her but he had her up against the wall and was all over her. She didn't object!

I was a complete AFC at the time and I was absolutely shocked.
 

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those kino moves are not masculine like was mentioned before.

you want to be coming from a place of taking what you want, u actually dont need much kino if u want to extract back to your place.

touchces on the shoulder,
arm,
hold her hand for a bit too long,
give her a hug and tell her that your nipples are rubbing and you should stop.
pull her hair
bite her arm / neck

stuff like that, but really you dont need to do anything. just be a naturally touchy guy that does hug and touch everybody, that will cover it.
 

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Generally speaking, too much kino can definitely come across as creepy. Think about it, when you decide to kino a girl, you’re breaking that physical barrier between you and that person.

Women like men that are confident, in other words, guys that don’t putz around and get nervous all the time. If you’re going to kino her, go for the kill. Go for the kiss (at the least). It’s your job as a man to lead the interaction, make it so.
 

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Yes. But not what you were doing.

You have to give some kino and back off then kino some more. tease em to please em.
 
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