"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Can someone babysit Luke? Charity work.

Call_Me_Daddy

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Many of you know Luke Skywalker is the 35 year old virgin here.

He has not gotten laid despite his best efforts (relative).

I think someone here needs to mentor him back into shape. Real man shape. or at least to get laid and be an Average Joe.


He needs a series of slaps outside the head. I have tried on many accounts but I am no longer a regular poster and thus my influence doesn't work. If anyone here is interested in charity work, here is your chance.

Think of it like donating to a good cause. Except instead of money you spend less than an hour each week giving pointers to a rookie.



Thanks in Advance,

And best of luck Luke. I hope you figure it out and stick with it.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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just get an escort, dude
 

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Wild Horse Saloon, just east of Reno Nv. Best in the West.
 

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That will get you laid but it doesn't mean you can meet women and make them want to sleep with you. There's a big difference. I think that's why we're here.
 
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Firstly: I'm 30 y/o, not 35 y/o.

Secondly: I've made quite direct attempts to get laid last November, but I found out that I wasn't ready, and that in any event, it's better to just move out of here, as the logistics is to tedius to figure out exactly 'where' to have sex with someone if it cant be at my house and furthermore, it would break my mother's heart if I did get laid and since she is currently supporting me and I'm living under her roof, I have to respect her policies.

Thirdly: On the up-side, I dont have VD, STD's or any problems (i.e. child support payments, etc....) that would normally be associated with a high-risk lifestyle.

At this current time, I've decided not to pursue any casual sex routes and am quite content enough from my own experiences between Dec 1st to Feb 3rd in terms of having smooth dates which ended in a kiss close at the end. I already have a couple of prospects that appear to be interested, so I'll see where that goes and report back on the "Lessons Learned this Year" thread on March 3rd this year.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Luke Skywalker said:
Secondly: I've made quite direct attempts to get laid last November, but I found out that I wasn't ready, and that in any event, it's better to just move out of here, as the logistics is to tedius to figure out exactly 'where' to have sex with someone if it cant be at my house and furthermore, it would break my mother's heart if I did get laid and since she is currently supporting me and I'm living under her roof, I have to respect her policies.

Wow, it's ok if you dont want to "pursue" casual sex and/or any sex, that's your choice, although i have no idea why you would make that choice. Anyway, dont, dont bring excuses to the table such as I live with my parents to the table, how do you think all young people do it?

Also, I'm almost positive no mothers out there would be heart broken if her 30 year old son was out having sex, at this age it's pretty common...
 

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Dude...please don't be like Skip and start calling people out over the boards. That wasn't cool.
 

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Call Me Daddy; Just an idea, but you could try minding your own business. If Luke doesn't want to, there is nothing you or any of us can do. Just like with an addiction, forced assistance works very rarely. I guess my eyesight is failing, because I don't see anything about you that says you have the right to make such a post about any member. There is a major difference between being a man and being an *******, I'll leave it up to you to decide which one you are behaving like...

Now to Luke. I can certainly see your points, but I can also see that any and all of them are easily handled if you had a mind to change it. My mother didn't want me having sex either, and that hardly slowed me down. If there is one thing I've learned it's that you've got to live for yourself, not mommy or daddy. I didn't have a house or even a car when I lost my virginity. That is why motels don't ask that many questions when you plop down you're cash. (Also, if you go after a woman your own age, she probably lives alone, and her house is as good as any.)

About the STD's; hate to break it to ya, but I've been having sex at least twice a week for the past three years, totaling hundreds of women. I don't have any STDs either. Condms can be had for the price of a soda in many gas stations. Never even came close to getting a girl preggy, for much the same reason.

I'll go ahead and say it, sex is one of the best things I've ever experienced. And, I do feel sorry that you've made a decision not to enjoy it for yourself. Why you've made that decision is none of my business, but I will assure you that unlike certain people here, I'm not going to try and make ya feel bad about it. Do I find your excuses as a valid reason not to enjoy the more carnal pleasures? Nope, but that is your business, and I'm not going to try and convince you otherwise.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
Firstly: I'm 30 y/o, not 35 y/o.

Secondly: I've made quite direct attempts to get laid last November, but I found out that I wasn't ready, and that in any event, it's better to just move out of here, as the logistics is to tedius to figure out exactly 'where' to have sex with someone if it cant be at my house and furthermore, it would break my mother's heart if I did get laid and since she is currently supporting me and I'm living under her roof, I have to respect her policies.

Would it really break your mother's heart? Why because you would be cheating on her and she wants you instead? Does she understand you're a 30 year old virgin, and it's not healthy? Are you an only child? My guess is you are. Apparently your mother is not looking out for your best interest.

Having sex is not a risky lifestyle.

I've been trying to get laid but I realized going home and going to work, going home going to work, working on my racecar and going to the track with a bunch of dudes, does not exactly put me in a position to get any, I've been in a rut, so I'm doing other things to get out of it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Yeah since you put it out there, why would you care, at 30 years old, how your mom feels about it? Get a hotel or go to your girl's house. WHAT IN THE BLUE HELL DOES YOUR MOM HAVE TO DO WITH IT?

Your loved one's aren't going to approve alot of things you do, but you're your own man, right? So act like you're your own man....if you're not, that is. =P
 
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Again, there are mistakes in the overall premise of this thread. On November, 2006, I released an ad on adultfriendfinder and lavalife with the express purpose of finding a woman to deflower me. At the end of the day, I decided I was not ready for it, and that's that.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=110996

How many prospects did I get on that system? At least four.

My diary/journal indicates that women were prepared to meet me, gave me their cell number, there was even an arranged meeting, but I bucked out of it at the last minute. But the problem was I was not ready and pressures in the environment against casua sex won out, not the fact there was nobody to do it with as Call_Me_Daddy is portraying.

Furthermore, I would not put myself up in a situation where I may reject a woman's sexual advances who may be genuinely interested in deflowering me if I'm not fully comfortable or ready with it. Why? First, a woman will take it very hard and get nasty if a male sexually rejects them like that, and secondly, I'm likely going to continue or feel really awful about inconveniancing someone for something I'm not fully ready with.

Finally, I tend to put things into a systematic box. For example, for a period between December 1st, 2006 to February 3, 2007, I am content with my range of dating experience. The fact that I have had a date ended with a kiss on the lips, on three different occasions is good enough of progress for me anywhere.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=111609

I see value in what I'm learning, and avoiding repeating certain mistakes over and over again where they occur. As long as 'NEW' mistakes are occuring which result or contribute to the frustration of a goal, I'm happy, as long as old ones aren't repeated.
 
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ThunderMaverick said:
Why do you live with your mom?
My official reason is I haven't been lucky enough in life to make the income or amount needed to rent out. If I did have enough money to live independantly and still chose to live at home, then I'd have to review that question again.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
My official reason is I haven't been lucky enough in life to make the income or amount needed to rent out. If I did have enough money to live independantly and still chose to live at home, then I'd have to review that question again.
Luke, I feel for 'ya but it's hard for me to swallow that it's just luck that allows so many people to make enough be move out on their own.
 
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Now to Luke. I can certainly see your points, but I can also see that any and all of them are easily handled if you had a mind to change it. My mother didn't want me having sex either, and that hardly slowed me down. If there is one thing I've learned it's that you've got to live for yourself, not mommy or daddy. I didn't have a house or even a car when I lost my virginity. That is why motels don't ask that many questions when you plop down you're cash. (Also, if you go after a woman your own age, she probably lives alone, and her house is as good as any.)
That's just the thing, I'm under a strick curfew here. My mom's said if I do anything, she'll disown me as her son. I cant just stay over night somewhere like that in this environment.

I'm not sure how these things can be arranged during the day time either.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Luke Skywalker said:
That's just the thing, I'm under a strick curfew here. My mom's said if I do anything, she'll disown me as her son. I cant just stay over night somewhere like that in this environment.
If you really give a **** about yourself and your life you will ESCAPE!

Sounds like a prison to me. Even my parents weren't that strict.


And I mean COME ON! You are 30 years old.

How much longer do you have to wait to get some independence? You are not a child anymore so stop acting like one. You are not a teenager anymore. You're not even a young man anymore. You are approaching MIDDLE AGE.

You are old enough to have kids now.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
That's just the thing, I'm under a strick curfew here. My mom's said if I do anything, she'll disown me as her son. I cant just stay over night somewhere like that in this environment.

I'm not sure how these things can be arranged during the day time either.

There are obviously issues MUCH larger than Luke's ability and skills to meet and seduce women.

It's clear his parents (Mom atleast?) are afflicted by major issues that have crippled Luke's manhood in a manner most of us here cannot comprehend.

He is not just lacking skills like most of us are/were, he is under insanely absurd constraints that are UNHEARD of in western society.

He is content with this. Atleast content enough to not do anything real about it. You can not help those who wil not help themselves.

He has as much potential as anybody here. But as long as he is content staying on his mother's tit then our advice is in vain.

Give it up people. Let him be.

Only he can come to he realization that all it takes is balls to get out there and leave the womb behind.

Finances are not an excuse. Luck is not an excuse. There are no excuses for his predicament. The only EXPLINATION is his parents have created a bizzar and false reality that he has become accustomed to.

This is social conditioning to the thousandth degree.
 

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Teflon_Mcgee said:
Luck is not an excuse.
Not only is luck not an excuse, luck does not exist. Sucess exists. hard work exists, and the willpower to get the **** out of the house, make some money and live on your own away from your parents also exists.
 

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I'm really starting to think this guy is a troll. Luke, if you're not a troll, get the fvck out of that house!!!!! I don't care what you have to do, just do it. No excuses about not making enough. Get another job, get a roommate, go to a bad part of town, just get the fvck out of there.

It is true, if you feel this way about your mother, she is hurting you in other ways as well, you sound like a mamma's boy. You're looking for a girl to "deflower" you? That's a girls term. Take drastic measures man, because you need them.

You're going to die a virgin taking care of your parents because they are too old to take care of themselves. You will have nobody and you will be lonely. This is your fate, Luke. This is your... destiny. That is, unless you do something about it. You're not trying at this point, you're giving up. Go all the way through, nail one of these girls. And keep going. DO IT LUKE! Because with your very high AFC status, you are going to have failed relationships at first until you toughen up.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
My official reason is I haven't been lucky enough in life to make the income or amount needed to rent out. If I did have enough money to live independantly and still chose to live at home, then I'd have to review that question again.

There's no question to review, you need to get out. Plain and simple.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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