"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Okay, so I was doing some cold approaches today. I realized that everytime that I open a chick she stares at me for a good 5-10 seconds then just walks away. my openers are usually about my surroundings or I just say hey how are ya doing today(only if I get eye contact that I use this one). It usually happens when I use the hey how are you opener that I get this response. I'm not really stressing it, but I want to know wtf could they be starring at then leave. I could say that I'm a decent looking guy,but I was doing this after I worked out and I really didn't care I just wanted to approach some girls for the heck of it. Anyway can someone explain to me why do these girls take a long look at me and do not even respond and walk away btw I ll be doing more approaches tomorrow.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Not her type in the look department or you probably sound nervous and gave a creep vibe. cant answer you question fully because you lack details in your statement.
 
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Lol probably. It was also a street approach as I was walking back home from the gym. I started seeing random hot girls on the street I thought that was the problem as girls seem like they were in a rush. Im trying to approach anytime n anywhere. I wasnt expecting any results. Anybody got some tips on cold approaching
 

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Secret_To_Success said:
Okay, so I was doing some cold approaches today. I realized that everytime that I open a chick she stares at me for a good 5-10 seconds then just walks away.
Every single time? It's you, bro. You're doing something wrong. Halitosis? B.O.? Unattractive? Bad appearance? Creepy smile?

Something's wrong if every time you cold approach a girl you get the same reaction.
 

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I just wanted to approach some girls for the heck of it
Not the mindset you want. When you do something for the heck of it, there is no excitement, no passion in it. Women can tell right away, or 5-10 seconds in your case, that you aren't really interested.

When you notice a beautiful woman, and you move her slowly into the focus of your vision, she will notice that she caught your attention and that you are looking at her. Don't hesitate, approach.

my openers are usually about my surroundings or I just say hey how are ya doing today(only if I get eye contact that I use this one)
It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Not every single time only when I use the opener hey how are you. I cant see how I can creep a girl out by saying that. How can you have passion about pickup. I think the positive here is I do not care about the outcome and I will continue to approach. Where are some good places for pickup other than the club and bar scene becuz im trying to cut down drinking
 

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You should check your intensity level. If you're too intense and not casually friendly, she will get scared.

They are pausing in order to take assessment of their feelings. The circuitry can be slow.
 
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By intense do you mean like being too hyper?? I talk pretty casual in my approaches. Don do you mean physically or the way im dressed because im in shorts and a tee shirt when I go to the gym I do not live far from my gym
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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if they just sit there and stare at you for 5-10 seconds without saying ANYTHING, then THEY'RE the creepy ones not you. who the fvck stands there for 5-10 seconds after someone asks them a question and then never answers it but instead walks away??? dumb@$$ed women that's who.
 

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Secret_To_Success said:
I agree with u 100 percent
While Robert28's statement might help to talk yourself psychologically or for self-affirmations, but the truth is, it is you who is probably coming across as a little creepy and/or incongruent, therefore putting out a bad vibe; could be the fact that it might be you staring, perving around, trolling, for a good 5-10 before you even approach, or simply, as mentioned a few times, the way you look; either way, you are not getting the response you want. Remember, it was you, not them, who went to inject yourself into whatever boring thing they happened to be doing at the moment you approached.

Keep doing the same thing, you will keep getting the same results. Didding for the answers you like on this forum is not what will help you improve on your predicament. This is not that different from the greasy, overweight, anti-social, "gaming", nerds here who somehow think they don't have to change anything about themselves to deserve the hotties. They should be attracted to them because they are already great guys.
 

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Robert28 said:
if they just sit there and stare at you for 5-10 seconds without saying ANYTHING, then THEY'RE the creepy ones not you. who the fvck stands there for 5-10 seconds after someone asks them a question and then never answers it but instead walks away??? dumb@$$ed women that's who.

LOL yeah, this is the strangest thing. Even if the girl is "creeped out" they would normally say hello or something back in a b!tchy manner and give unapproving looks to shame the guy from ever approaching girls again. Something is missing in this story. The way it reads it's as if the OP was flashing elementary kids and they stared in curiosity at his willy for a few seconds then took off running.

A lot more details are needed but my first inclination is that the girls he approached were not visually attracted to his looks and they have no manners and were the ones acting weird about it. But details, where is the OP from, age and aprox age of the girls and their approx attractiveness, when he throws his opener does he stop talking and let the girl stare and does he smile at her or not in the meantime? He should probably either throw his opener and keep talking or throw it and start walking away right away rather than standing there waiting for her response or no response.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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the girls age I approach are 20-30 range. Im saying this happened like 4 times like out of 10 approaches. I would say the girls I approach are average looking chicks ranging from 6-8's whoever I see out there you know. I would ask them hey how are ya they would look at me for awhile cause I'm waiting for her to answer but she doesn't is that a cue to keep talking even if she doesn't answer that's kinda weird to me. I usually smile when I open with this not a huge smile showing all my teeth but enough to know that im coming from a friendly place.
 

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you are showing too much interest with your approach. you look like the creepy guy hitting on girls as they walk by. go more indirect, maybe use an opionion opener. make it seem spontaneous, and really root your opener, and give a false time constraint. those 2 things alone should buy you 2-5 minutes.
 

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Secret_To_Success said:
the girls age I approach are 20-30 range. Im saying this happened like 4 times like out of 10 approaches. I would say the girls I approach are average looking chicks ranging from 6-8's whoever I see out there you know. I would ask them hey how are ya they would look at me for awhile cause I'm waiting for her to answer but she doesn't is that a cue to keep talking even if she doesn't answer that's kinda weird to me. I usually smile when I open with this not a huge smile showing all my teeth but enough to know that im coming from a friendly place.
Well, I think you're cold approaches might be a little too cold. "Hi. How are you" seems nice and friendly, but if some random dude walks up to you saying that, what are you gonna say? Even as a man, you'd be thinking "Who is this guy, and what does he want..."

Maybe warm up the cold approach by saying something situational....."is it still raining outside?" "Whoa. Where'd you get that pretzel?" "Those glasses are awesome. Where'd you get them? Do they make them for guys?"

Basically, something that seems genuine and initiates a discussion, rather than "Hey I'm a random person preparing to talk to you about random crap."

A stranger asking me how I am isn't going to get a favorable response, since this kind of small talk is usually reserved for people who actually know each other.
 

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stop being indirect. Be straight up and unapolagetically tell her why you've just approached her.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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