Can Simulated Abundance Replace Real Abundance?

[corrector]

True.


It does.

The simulated is a perfomance, I have abundance bace I have X, Y, Z. What happens when you don't have those things? The ego shatters.

The real abundance is being happy with yourself, not letting your flaws define you, and being okay with yourself, it doesn's have to do with anything material, it is instrinsic.


Its not abundance, it is perfomance.


Fake confidence. Its all a perfomance


There is never a trick for the subsonscious, if you wanna have abundance, first you need to be okay with having nothing, it comes from detachtment, and it is a very painful for the mind to rewire itself, only then when you don't have any identity, and when you stop performing, there you will see who are you in reality.

Most men don't have the balls to do it, because they are scared of the unknown and they revert back to the pathetic guys they were.


They are cowards, notice all they do is talk and complain, they keep searching for answers but never do anyhthing

I get what you’re saying about detachment, but here’s the catch: most guys don’t have the luxury of starting from “nothing.” The subconscious does react to small inpts even if they’re not the final form of abundance.

Think about it: athletes visualize themselves winning before steping on the field. Is that fake confidence? Technically yes, but the subconscious doesn’t care it takes the rehearsal as real enough and then the body follows.

So I’m not saying simulated abundance replaces the real thing, but if it gives you that "starter confidence" until the real abundance arrives, isn’t that still a valid tool? Otherwise, afirmations and visualization wouldn’t work either.

The question becomes: is it really “fake” if the subconscious acts on it? Or is it just the first rung on the ladder?

 

[BaronOfHair]

What this thread really is is you trying to get us to validate that by having a hot AI girlfriend, you have abundance, even if it isn't real. Which is quite sad

Indirectly ties into a discussion being had here https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/models-attracting-women-through-honesty-by-mark-manson.284679/

Our "authentic selves" are more often than not a facade, designed to not only shield us from viewing potentially icky aspects of our current existence("I'm relying on AI GFs and ASMR chicks, because approaching out in RL could entail some discomfort"), but to hoodwink everyone else as well

OP likely believes he's being honest with himself and the rest of us, without ever really investigating that belief for it's accuracy

 

[Mike32ct]

Which affirmations worked for you? You mentioned that they help allot. What difference would you say thay made with you?

I won’t list them all. It’s kind of personal. But, back in the very late 90s, I put about 10 of them together such as “I love talking to women.” I hand wrote them out twice a day 10x each for a month or two.

You can look up how to write them. It’s super easy. The amount of times you do them is arbitrary but more is better.

Then I was in line at a casino for a concert. This girl in front off me just turned to ask me a question. I was super shy and hadn’t done any “game” stuff yet. I literally never had a conversation with a random chick before. And the words just flew off my tongue. We ended up talking for 20 minutes. She had a big smile on her face. I could have gotten a number, but I was just shocked. My brother and his buddy were with me. They were equally shocked how smooth and chatty I was.

And stupid me, I never used affirmations again. I either got lazy and/or blew it off as a fluke. I ended up going the PUA route of forcing myself to talk at clubs. That worked too, but I think it would have been easier if I kept up the affirmations routine as a supplement to going out.

Supplement is the key word. It’s obviously not a replacement for real world conversations. Just a potential boost.

 

[Travel memoir21]

Work on those ChatGPT Social Bootcamps dude. Go out and start working on your social skills and approaching people and make new friends

 

[tksniper]

I wouldn’t say so. Just look at women. They have so much simulated abundance these days through social media. But when it comes to real life, most of them still can’t have a normal convo with a guy they actually choose and feel a genuine attraction for. They are completely miscalibrated, entitled, and have expectations that borders on delusion.

A female 6 can create simulated abundance through instagram by posting booty pics with the best angles and have hundreds of guys simp for her. But in real life she’s still pump and dump material for most high value guys. And that’s if her entitlement doesn’t get in the way and she’s able to have a normal conversation with these guys.

I personally know a few women like this in real life and it’s quite amusing. Whenever they ghosted or dumped, they go on social media and post thirst trap pics and fish for validation. Combined with quotes like “I know I bring value to the table with my presence”, or some other form of cope. Some women I’ve dated in the past, if you saw their social media you’d think they were 10’s. But in real life they were value leeches, energy vampires, and pretty much a liability.

Reality is the great equalizer. You can’t be successful and delusional at the same time. This is how sales people get fired. You actually have to have something of value to offer in real life, and people have to want to buy what you are selling. No amount of mental gymnastics can change a low value person into a high value person.

What do people buy in real life? Value, Sexual attraction, status, connection, affiliation.

Why does anybody want to connect with you? Be affiliated with you? Have sex with you? Because of your “belief”? That’s delusion.

A guy who’s connected to a vast amount of social socials has way more value than a guy who spends his time in his dark room doing affirmations.

And a woman who has something to offer in a relationship has way more value than a woman with 1000 social media followers.

 

[Travel memoir21]

I wouldn’t say so. Just look at women. They have so much simulated abundance these days through social media. But when it comes to real life, most of them still can’t have a normal convo with a guy they actually choose and feel a genuine attraction for. They are completely miscalibrated, entitled, and have expectations that borders on delusion.

A female 6 can create simulated abundance through instagram by posting booty pics with the best angles and have hundreds of guys simp for her. But in real life she’s still pump and dump material for most high value guys. And that’s if her entitlement doesn’t get in the way and she’s able to have a normal conversation with these guys.

I personally know a few women like this in real life and it’s quite amusing. Whenever they ghosted or dumped, they go on social media and post thirst trap pics and fish for validation. Combined with quotes like “I know I bring value to the table with my presence”, or some other form of cope. Some women I’ve dated in the past, if you saw their social media you’d think they were 10’s. But in real life they were value leeches, energy vampires, and pretty much a liability.

Reality is the great equalizer. You can’t be successful and delusional at the same time. This is how sales people get fired. You actually have to have something of value to offer in real life, and people have to want to buy what you are selling. No amount of mental gymnastics can change a low value person into a high value person.

What do people buy in real life? Value, Sexual attraction, status, connection, affiliation.

Why does anybody want to connect with you? Be affiliated with you? Have sex with you? Because of your “belief”? That’s delusion.

A guy who’s connected to a vast amount of social socials has way more value than a guy who spends his time in his dark room doing affirmations.

And a woman who has something to offer in a relationship has way more value than a woman with 1000 social media followers.

But the goal is to be content right? So in other words we gotta learn how to balance out the best of both worlds. Yes it's fine to have a morning routine where you're meditating, doing yoga and saying affirmations etc but ya still gotta go out and form connections when it matters.

 

[tksniper]

But the goal is to be content right? So in other words we gotta learn how to balance out the best of both worlds. Yes it's fine to have a morning routine where you're meditating, doing yoga and saying affirmations etc but ya still gotta go out and form connections when it matters.

The goal is the result. I’m not content if I can’t get laid or make money. I’m not content if I end up homeless. Michael Jordan practiced his craft 3 times a day. He did nothing else.

I think most people have it backwards. If I spent 2 hours at the gym and 3 hours studying my craft to improve my career, I have the privilege to do affirmations after. It’s because I believe it. It’s not delusion. I created actual value for myself.

Read the books “First things first” and “Eat that frog”. It’s written by multi millionaires. Both books preach doing the hardest things first every morning. That means working out in the morning and spending an hour learning about your craft. And then you can sprinkle in affirmations and visualizations afterwards.

You reap what you sow.

A farmer sows first, and reaps afterwards.

 

[tksniper]

Millionaire athletes and actors spend thousands of hours invested into their craft. At some point they reach a mental block and some guru tells them to do affirmations and visualizations. And then somehow they are able to go from 90% to 100%.

My question is, what are you doing to go from 0% to 90%? Are you taking your life seriously and doing everything in your power to go from 0% to 90%? If the answer is no, then the affirmations and visualizations are useless.

Affirmations and visualizations are reaping techniques. They are not sowing techniques. You actually have to spend a tremendous amount of time and energy investing in yourself before affirmations and visualizations can work for you.

 

[corrector]

Let’s take the extreme case, like moi, the guy who can’t go to the gym, is stuck in a low-paying job, and doesn’t have the luxury of a wide social circle. That’s basically where I’m at. If you strip away affirmations and simulated abundance, what’s left? Resignation. Despair. A loop of “this is it, nothing changes.”

People forget the subconscious doesn’t differentiate between “real” and “imagined.”

Fore example, Maxwell Maltz wrote about this in Psycho-Cybernetics where the mind treats vividly imagned experiences as real, and the body and behavior follow. Joseph Murphy said the same in The Power of Your Subconscious Mind: your self-talk and mental images condition your reality over time. Even science backs this. The placebo effect proves belief alone can trigger meaurable biological healing.

That’s not a gym routine or a high-paying job but that’s the subconscious flipping a switch because it was given someting to hold onto.So for the guy at zero, affirmations and simulated abundance aren’t delusions.” They’re the only leverage point left.

They crack the prison wall just enough for light to leak through. And once the subconscious is aligned differently, you’d be shocked at how fast micro-opportunities show up that would’ve been invisible otherwise.If athletes can visualize themselves winning before steppigg on the field and see better results, why can’t a regular man visualize abundance before stepping into his everyday life? It’s the same subconscious machinery, just a different arena.

 

[tksniper]

Let’s take the extreme case, like moi, the guy who can’t go to the gym, is stuck in a low-paying job, and doesn’t have the luxury of a wide social circle. That’s basically where I’m at. If you strip away affirmations and simulated abundance, what’s left? Resignation. Despair. A loop of “this is it, nothing changes.”

People forget the subconscious doesn’t differentiate between “real” and “imagined.”

Fore example, Maxwell Maltz wrote about this in Psycho-Cybernetics where the mind treats vividly imagned experiences as real, and the body and behavior follow. Joseph Murphy said the same in The Power of Your Subconscious Mind: your self-talk and mental images condition your reality over time. Even science backs this. The placebo effect proves belief alone can trigger meaurable biological healing.

That’s not a gym routine or a high-paying job but that’s the subconscious flipping a switch because it was given someting to hold onto.So for the guy at zero, affirmations and simulated abundance aren’t delusions.” They’re the only leverage point left.

They crack the prison wall just enough for light to leak through. And once the subconscious is aligned differently, you’d be shocked at how fast micro-opportunities show up that would’ve been invisible otherwise.If athletes can visualize themselves winning before steppigg on the field and see better results, why can’t a regular man visualize abundance before stepping into his everyday life? It’s the same subconscious machinery, just a different arena.

Not being able to go to the gym is a piss poor excuse. Download p90x. And you say you are stuck in a low paying job. What job is it? Are you spending at least 1 hour a day learning about your craft so that you can become a top earner in that field?

Or if you wish to go to another field, are you spending at least 1 hour a day learning about that craft?

If you aren’t doing these things, then there is a lack of integrity. And when there is a lack of personal integrity, affirmations aren’t going to help you because you can’t trick your own subconscious mind.

Your subconscious mind knows you better than you know you. It knows all your excuses and BS that the forum doesn’t know about.

 

[corrector]

When someone says “just invest an hour a day,”, if you have a jammed-up schedule then where is that free hour going to come from? Suppose that free hour is at 4am when the brain is fried? That’s not integrity, that’s no bandwith left to give. This is where affirmations or simulated abundance come in. Joseph Murphy (Power of the Subconscious Mind) and Maltz (Psycho-Cybernetics) both showed the subconscious doesn’t care if it’s “earned” through grind or not because it reacts to the input. Even placebo studies prove belief alone can shift mood and results.
Once a guy has bandwith and energy, sure, he can go do the gym, career stuff, whatever. Since Affirmations can help with bandwith then logically that's the first place that should be invested in. It doesn't require that much cogntive focus to do that compared to something else.

 

[tksniper]

When someone says “just invest an hour a day,”, if you have a jammed-up schedule then where is that free hour going to come from? Suppose that free hour is at 4am when the brain is fried? That’s not integrity, that’s no bandwith left to give. This is where affirmations or simulated abundance come in. Joseph Murphy (Power of the Subconscious Mind) and Maltz (Psycho-Cybernetics) both showed the subconscious doesn’t care if it’s “earned” through grind or not because it reacts to the input. Even placebo studies prove belief alone can shift mood and results.
Once a guy has bandwith and energy, sure, he can go do the gym, career stuff, whatever. Since Affirmations can help with bandwith then logically that's the first place that should be invested in. It doesn't require that much cogntive focus to do that compared to something else.

How do you have so much bandwidth to post on sosuave but not enough to spend 1 hour a day working on your career and 1 hour working on your physical fitness?

 

[corrector]

How do you have so much bandwidth to post on sosuave but not enough to spend 1 hour a day working on your career and 1 hour working on your physical fitness?

I don't post that often here. Whenever I do post, it tends to get allot of reactions, replies and what not, but at the core of it, it's only one post here, or one other post there, and then allot of noise from everyone else. Right now I'm mainly talking to you. If you are making that as part of your argument (ie I have the time to talk to you), then that's not much of an argument, more of a cop-out. You want to make a point by saying I should not be talking to you, lol