Can Simulated Abundance Replace Real Abundance?

[corrector]

I noticed something lately and wanted to open it up for discussion.

Whenever men experience abundance, their whole demeanor changes. It doesn’t even matter if the abundance is real or simulated.

Some men go to the gym, get in shape, and women flock. That’s real abundance.
Others find it through music, ASMR, or VR experiences where a friendly face keeps them company. That’s simulated abundance.
Back in the day (Gen-X here), guys felt abundance just by chatting with girls online before exchanging pictures. The imagination itself carried them.

The funny thing is, the end result is the same: a man carries himself as if he has options. Confidence leaks out into his interactions.

Now, I’m not saying one is “better” than the other. But let’s be real — if a man can trick his subconscious into believing he has abundance, isn’t that still abundance?


Or to put it provocatively:
Is there really a difference between a guy with a harem of women in his phone and a guy with a harem in his neighborhood?


Discuss.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Simulated or real, appearing desired raises your value, but it’s how you carry yourself that makes it believable. Don’t be too available; keeping your distance creates scarcity, and scarcity makes you prized. What is rare and just out of reach is always the most desired. In the end, perception becomes reality.

 

[MatureDJ]

There is a movie genre about this. Here is the one example I'm familiar with:

Pure Copium.

 

[BPH]

Why do you care whether you have real or simulated abundance if none of that translates to your real-world interactions?

What this thread really is is you trying to get us to validate that by having a hot AI girlfriend, you have abundance, even if it isn't real. Which is quite sad.

It's impressive the level of mental gymnastics some of you do to talk yourself out of doing the most obvious things to improve your situation.

 

[corrector]

Why do you care whether you have real or simulated abundance if none of that translates to your real-world interactions?

What this thread really is is you trying to get us to validate that by having a hot AI girlfriend, you have abundance, even if it isn't real. Which is quite sad.

It's impressive the level of mental gymnastics some of you do to talk yourself out of doing the most obvious things to improve your situation.

What are you talking about? I will have to report you for bringing up that topic on this thread. You did not read the updated forum rules? How dare you post about such an abomination on my thead. Mods!!!

 

[BPH]

What are you talking about? I will have to report you for bringing up that topic on this thread. You did not read the updated forum rules? How dare you post about such an abomination on my thead. Mods!!!

This is essentially a continuation of your thread in Anything Else about your AI Girlfriend - a thread that was locked, with your approval. So I'm not sure why you're essentially continuing that discussion here, now.

 

[corrector]

This is essentially a continuation of your thread in Anything Else about your AI Girlfriend - a thread that was locked, with your approval. So I'm not sure why you're essentially continuing that discussion here, now.

It is a discussion about music videos and ASMR love fairy videos (ie made by real human being women by the way). There is no reference to whatever it is you are talking about on this post.

Are discussions about music videos and how they can create a simulated abudnance experience now also violating the rules of this board?

 

[BaronOfHair]

Whenever men experience abundance, their whole demeanor changes

You don't need a simulation to experience that, hoss... Consider some facts

-You have internet access that allows you to connect with people in almost every corner of the globe, usually at a keystroke. This wasn't really the case as recently as The early 2000s, when dial-up was still widespread

-You're in some sort of housing that's walled, and thus shields you from the elements

-All your limbs are, presumably, intact

-Your vital organs are in relatively good-immaculate shape

-You're able to breathe without mechanical aid

-You're not(currently) being targeted for assassination by an intelligence service, organized crime, or an extremist political entity, and thus enjoy a high measure of freedom of movement

-You're not afflicted with Schistomatsis, Ebola, HIV, some sort of brain damage that's left you in an indefinite vegetative state, Stage IV cancer

-You possess above average literacy, which means you were privileged enough to receive an education that was decent-excellent

-Your current profession pays you more than the pesos and rupis slum dwellers of the world are going to spend the rest of their lives surviving off of

These things alone(and the list could go indefinitetly)put you light-years ahead of AT LEAST 3/4 of the human race. Like almost every guy who's found The Manosphere, you already enjoy shi-loads of abundance... But you make a conscious choice to remain oblivious to the many advantages surrounding you

 

[CornbreadFed]

NO!!!

 

[corrector]

You don't need a simulation to experience that, hoss... Consider some facts

-You have internet access that allows you to connect with people in almost every corner of the globe, usually at a keystroke. This wasn't really the case as recently as The early 2000s, when dial-up was still widespread

-You're in some sort of housing that's walled, and thus shields you from the elements

-All your limbs are, presumably, intact

-Your vital organs are in relatively good-immaculate shape

-You're able to breathe without mechanical aid

-You're not(currently) being targeted for assassination by an intelligence service, organized crime, or an extremist political entity, and thus enjoy a high measure of freedom of movement

-You're not afflicted with Schistomatsis, Ebola, HIV, some sort of brain damage that's left you in an indefinite vegetative state, Stage IV cancer

-You possess above average literacy, which means you were privileged enough to receive an education that was decent-excellent

-Your current profession pays you more than the pesos and rupis slum dwellers of the world are going to spend the rest of their lives surviving off of

These things alone(and the list could go indefinitetly)put you light-years ahead of AT LEAST 3/4 of the human race. Like almost every guy who's found The Manosphere, you already enjoy shi-loads of abundance... But you make a conscious choice to remain oblivious to the many advantages surrounding you

The issue is abundance with women.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Why do you care whether you have real or simulated abundance if none of that translates to your real-world interactions?

Exactly this. Yes you can train your subconscious mind to think you have abundance in order to create it in the real world. But if you're just believing the fairy tale with no results then it's mental masturbation. Simple precept that I think the DJ Bible and other threads have covered ad nauseum.

 

[BaronOfHair]

The issue is abundance with women.

Start strengthening your social network more generally. Women are a byproduct of that

 

[Mike32ct]

I think real abundance is, at a minimum, other people (mostly women but also some men) asking about your relationship status. People only ask if they think you are at least somewhat attractive. Otherwise it’s crickets.

Examples

“Do you have a gf?” “Why don’t you have a gf?” “Are you married, divorced?” “Do you have kids?”

Now, if you want to attempt a “fake it until you make it”abundance, I think affirmations might be a better initial route than other options mentioned.

 

[frenchflow]

In my personal experience, true skill comes first. I mean I often doubt myself, thinking a woman will flake on me , or reject me or do some ****ed up **** . But then I have to remember to stick to the script, so I do , and it often works despite how I feel.

I also know more advanced guys who are vouching for having delusional belief. A few of them told me women truly start chasing off the bat you when you have that delusional " every woman is dying to have me" type of belief. Wether it's reality or not .

 

[corrector]

I think real abundance is, at a minimum, other people (mostly women but also some men) asking about your relationship status. People only ask if they think you are at least somewhat attractive. Otherwise it’s crickets.

Examples

“Do you have a gf?” “Why don’t you have a gf?” “Are you married, divorced?” “Do you have kids?”

Now, if you want to attempt a “fake it until you make it”abundance, I think affirmations might be a better initial route than other options mentioned.

I agree that affirmations and self-talk should be looked at carefully.

 

[Mike32ct]

I agree that affirmations and self-talk should be looked at carefully.

I used them many years ago. They do help a lot. I’m writing some new ones so I can restart.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I noticed something lately and wanted to open it up for discussion.

Whenever men experience abundance, their whole demeanor changes. It doesn’t even matter if the abundance is real or simulated.

Some men go to the gym, get in shape, and women flock. That’s real abundance.
Others find it through music, ASMR, or VR experiences where a friendly face keeps them company. That’s simulated abundance.
Back in the day (Gen-X here), guys felt abundance just by chatting with girls online before exchanging pictures. The imagination itself carried them.

The funny thing is, the end result is the same: a man carries himself as if he has options. Confidence leaks out into his interactions.

Now, I’m not saying one is “better” than the other. But let’s be real — if a man can trick his subconscious into believing he has abundance, isn’t that still abundance?


Or to put it provocatively:
Is there really a difference between a guy with a harem of women in his phone and a guy with a harem in his neighborhood?


Discuss.

Chatting online with another human being was a stepping stone for those who made it that way. Too often men would keep online and couldn’t function in the real world.

Prior to online was the phone. Men could dominate behind a phone. They couldn’t operate in the real world.

In both of those instance men were gaining insights of a real human on the other end.

In your vision, applications that have literally suggested a man kill himself is a suitable alternative.

Not only is this horrible thinking, it also entirely works against the state purpose of this forum, is not in the appropriate subsection, and if it was, would be outside of @Dr.Suave sticky, which likely was your intention so you could skirt his rules.

You should be banned.

 

[The Duke]

I'm so much cooler online, even on a slow day I can have a 3way ...

Here's your theme song @corrector

 

[Doctor Europeo]

I noticed something lately and wanted to open it up for discussion.

Whenever men experience abundance, their whole demeanor changes. It doesn’t even matter if the abundance is real or simulated.

Some men go to the gym, get in shape, and women flock. That’s real abundance.
Others find it through music, ASMR, or VR experiences where a friendly face keeps them company. That’s simulated abundance.
Back in the day (Gen-X here), guys felt abundance just by chatting with girls online before exchanging pictures. The imagination itself carried them.

The funny thing is, the end result is the same: a man carries himself as if he has options. Confidence leaks out into his interactions.

Now, I’m not saying one is “better” than the other. But let’s be real — if a man can trick his subconscious into believing he has abundance, isn’t that still abundance?


Or to put it provocatively:
Is there really a difference between a guy with a harem of women in his phone and a guy with a harem in his neighborhood?


Discuss.

Not only is this horrible thinking, it also entirely works against the state purpose of this forum, is not in the appropriate subsection, and if it was, would be outside of @Dr.Suave sticky, which likely was your intention so you could skirt his rules.

You should be banned.

While I do think simulated abundance vs real abudance is a valid discussion, OP´s history gives me caution to consider the possibility that he is just going out of his way to post his usual content. Corrector please consider this a friendly warning to thread carfully.

 

[corrector]

I used them many years ago. They do help a lot. I’m writing some new ones so I can restart.

Which affirmations worked for you? You mentioned that they help allot. What difference would you say thay made with you?