"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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can/should kids be the answer to saving a marraige?

strey

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im not married, nor have kids, nor do i want either. but i have many older friends that got married young, and often say "having kids saved my marraige". i guess the couples were in love at some point, and started to slip away, only then to get pregnant and :confused: "forced":confused: to stay together for the sake of the kid? do kids really save it? in the end, are the kids the one getting the shaft? but i see after this happens, the marraige usualy goes south, and then its all about the kids, with no room for the marraige.

god, i hope this never happens to me.:nono:
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Buddha_Mind

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The truth is that children will never save a relationship. That's like saying a bandage will save a leg infected with gang-green. Perhaps even that metaphor isn't constructive.

Any sort of superficial anything to save a relationship will likely fail. I think that bringing kids into the equation is one of the most selfish things two people could do. Thinking that some intermediate life yet to exist will be their bridge to a proper union.

I know a few people whose parents told them they thought having kids would "help things". Often times, they end up holding resentment for their parents relationship, and struggle to deal with these sorts of emotions.

Children will never fix anything. They are a huge responsibility and a life changing experience like nothing else. I'm not a father, but I know this much.

peace.
 

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If the woman can still get a divorce with the same (and increased) benefits and take the kids with her, then no, kids will not save any marriage.

Like others in this thread I haven't been married or had kids and there are no such plans on the horizon. Yet from what I can gather kids are more and more being considered as toys/pets. One example is the screenshots circulating the net of mothers using mobile facebook just minutes before and after delivery. I can't imagine that in this day and age, the concept of a child needing a healthy, in tact relationship between its two biological parents, is likely to prevent many mothers at all from picking up and running off.
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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sodbuster

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Well, the kids kept me married long enough for them to reach the age they could choose who to live with,but no longer. Kids are work. When you are both tired from raising the kids and have no time to think aobut anything else-they may prolong the marriage because you are too exhausted to think about the problems you have. BUT eventually, you find the time and realize you aren't happy where you are. You don't have the time to work out your problems, and by now;your wife thinks this is the way it's going to be.
Have your life locked down tight before having kids. Even then, she may get used to ordering THEM around and start on you.
 

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Dear Strey,
This is crazy,a bit like saying the condemned Man is saved from falling through the trapdoor by the rope round his neck.
 

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No, having kids does not "save" a marriage. It just gives you something more important to focus on than how much the marriage sucks. Once you have kids, it's about the kids. It's not about "you" any more, so most people ignore their own happiness and try to make sure their kids come up right.

Hopefully the conflict in the marriage doesn't affect the children...but that's asking a lot. It typically does. I've known couples who "stay together for the kids"...they all break up. I've known couples who got pregnant and then married BECAUSE of that. They break up too.

In short...don't do it. You owe it to your kids to at least TRY to build a happy (or at least non-conflict) home BEFORE having kids.
 

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I think my parents only stayed together as long as they did because they had me. It was a miserable experience for everyone involved.
 

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She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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The odds of children saving a marriage really bad. Look at the statistics of failed relationships within the first year of having a kid.

And when they do save a relationship, the reasons why it worked often suck.
 

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NO!!!
in fact, i think that children can sometimes ruin a marriage.
most good marriages are merely "tested to the limit" at times, when adding children to the mix but bad marriages can get worse when you add the troubles and responsibilities of parenthood to it.
 

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Wow, RUN fast! Kids do not help marriage, AT ALL! I have numerous friends who put up with the most ball busting, miserable, b!tches on earth "for the kids." If it's bad now it will only suck more when you can't leave because of the kids.

Man I have 2 friends who had darn near "perfect" wives before kids, after... they just changed!! One his wife went through postpartum depression and her mind just snapped. She was a picture of mental health and now she has been in and out of mental institutions ever since having their child. Don't do it!
 
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