“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

Can I act like a broke dude if Im making 6 figures?

Knight of Roses

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Apr 17, 2018
Messages
296
Reaction score
276
Age
40
I make good $$$, most chicks know that when I go out with them because the conversation about jobs have come up usually. (Once I lied and told her I was a bouncer at a strip club.)

Anyways, Im getting tired of picking up the tab. Many girls don't offer to split or pay, and I dont know why it bothers me, but it does. I dont like paying all the time. Dont get me wrong, Im still getting the draws, but always having to pay for drinks before or whatever is annoying me.

Dudes that aint got jobs, no car, can take girls to sh1tty dive bars. Could I do the same or would it appear too unnatural / incongruent?
 

Lookatu

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 26, 2017
Messages
3,069
Reaction score
3,888
Age
53
Definitely. This is what I did and still do. I dumb down my job or communicate a different job title first and foremost.

Leave all the fancy branded clothes, watch, car at home. Uber if you have to or pickup a beater car. Make sure your stories are congruent and consistent with someone not making that much money. Don't talk about money related stuff or materialistic stuff. Don't tell them you've been to fancy destinations that would indicate you come from wealth.

Do only coffee/drink dates for first meetups.

Don't reach for the check right away or offer to pay. When the check comes, keep talking like you didn't see it. Eventually someone will need to pay it and when that time comes, you just look at it for a bit and see if she offers or says anything.

Quit being a white knight. You may not think so but it may come off that way to girls.

Do not pick out any fancy venues to meet up at. Think dive bars and such.

Do not get constant manicures or use skin moisturizers. Women pick up on this type of stuff too.

Don't wear cologne or at least any fancy ones.
 

Kotaix

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 29, 2019
Messages
2,236
Reaction score
2,822
Age
48
Showing off your wealth or sharing your net worth is a good way to attract a parasite. You want a woman that wants you for who you are and not what you have. I seriously doubt a woman is going to be mad about being lied to when they eventually figure out that you're high value.

People who are super wealthy don't bother showing off because they have nothing to prove and they have their wealth to protect from said parasites.
 

jimwho

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 18, 2020
Messages
730
Reaction score
737
Age
66
Hijack,,, At a recycle center cashing in brass/copper, the cute lady that pays you handed me 205.00. I said this is enough for dinner & a movie you in?? Well we saw "Iron man" and went Italian. Check was about 60.00, I put a 5 and four 1's =nine dollar tip. She said don't be a cheapskate. Fast forward days later her wanting more of me. I told her if we go out again you're buying and leaving a big tip, remember I'm a cheapskate. That didn't go over well, but eventually she caved and we went out.
I'm old-school. But if it's getting near a Ltr she pitches in. The Princess that never pays is a big turnoff.
 

rjc149

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 17, 2019
Messages
866
Reaction score
1,323
Location
NJ/NYC
I have a 6-figure career (goal is to make it 7 before I retire), which also requires me to wear a suit and tie. My suits are tailored, and I wear some fairly expensive luxury brand accessories, like neckties, shoes, briefcases, watch etc. I'm not bragging here -- it's important for my line of work to brand yourself as competent and successful.

It's quite easy to not become a gold-digger's target, by sticking to this basic itinerary:

1. I show up on most dates after work, still wearing a suit. It's an instant DHV. Your margin for errors is considerably widened when you're wearing a tailored suit (not something baggy, out of style, or black). You are treated with respect by strangers. Service people are slightly intimidated by you, and when you're warm and friendly to them, that's alpha as fvck. Women love it.

2. When asked what I do, I always answer "I work at Men's Wearhouse." It's good for a quick laugh. If she insists on asking again, I tell her what I do, then immediately change the subject. I don't like talking about work on dates, or with anyone I don't work with. If she asks "how much do you make?" my answer is "more than you, don't worry" and I know the date is probably ending after the 2nd round of drinks-- usually because contrary to movies and popular culture, very few women are obnoxious enough to ask that question on a first date if they want you to like them. It means she's not that interested in you.

3. First dates are always at a bar for drinks. Never dinner. Never coffee. Never anything but at a bar for drinks. I usually pick an upscale pub, not anything exclusive or that's clearly chosen to impress a woman. I pick a place that has Yuengling on tap and has a basic bar menu for appetizers. No place with $20 c0cktails. I order Tito's and club so I can nurse it and not get my motor running to quickly.

4. I buy the 1st round. If the conversation is going well, I'll put the 2nd round on my tab also. Yep, dating costs money. Usually at this point, I'll know whether it's going well or not. If it is, I'll order appetizers, or simply ask "I'm hungry, want to get a bite with me? There's a great place down the street." Sharing food and booze is a human bonding activity that spans eons of humanity. No need to fix what isn't broken.

5. I then pick a simple, casual restaurant with entrees $10-20 range. Order a round at the table, keep the conversation flowing. When the check comes, I take it. I'm the man. I'm leading, I'm in charge, I'm responsible. I pay. And it's only a $40-50 tab max. If she follows you to a restaurant and offers to split (she often will), the date is usually going well -- although insisting on splitting the bar tab at the 1st venue can be a sign that she doesn't want to be taken care of by you, and it often not a great sign. It really depends on the girl.

6. After dinner, I suggest one more bar. I pick a quiet, dark lounge. Either on the way there, or there, I go for the kiss. The rest is history.

So the key is to pick the venues. Have total control over the itinerary. If she wants to go someplace expensive, go. But when the bill comes, tell the server directly "we're splitting this." Don't even clear it with your date. You pick, you pay. She picks, she pays.
 
Last edited:

Knight of Roses

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Apr 17, 2018
Messages
296
Reaction score
276
Age
40
I have a 6-figure career (goal is to make it 7 before I retire), which also requires me to wear a suit and tie. My suits are tailored, and I wear some fairly expensive luxury brand accessories, like neckties, shoes, briefcases, watch etc. I'm not bragging here -- it's important for my line of work to brand yourself as competent and successful.

It's quite easy to not become a gold-digger's target, by sticking to this basic itinerary:

1. I show up on most dates after work, still wearing a suit. It's an instant DHV. Your margin for errors is considerably widened when you're wearing a tailored suit (not something baggy, out of style, or black). You are treated with respect by strangers. Service people are slightly intimidated by you, and when you're warm and friendly to them, that's alpha as fvck. Women love it.

2. When asked what I do, I always answer "I work at Men's Wearhouse." It's good for a quick laugh. If she insists on asking again, I tell her what I do, then immediately change the subject. I don't like talking about work on dates, or with anyone I don't work with. If she asks "how much do you make?" my answer is "more than you, don't worry" and I know the date is probably ending after the 2nd round of drinks-- usually because contrary to movies and popular culture, very few women are obnoxious enough to ask that question on a first date if they want you to like them. It means she's not that interested in you.

3. First dates are always at a bar for drinks. Never dinner. Never coffee. Never anything but at a bar for drinks. I usually pick an upscale pub, not anything exclusive or that's clearly chosen to impress a woman. I pick a place that has Yuengling on tap and has a basic bar menu for appetizers. No place with $20 c0cktails. I order Tito's and club so I can nurse it and not get my motor running to quickly.

4. I buy the 1st round. If the conversation is going well, I'll put the 2nd round on my tab also. Yep, dating costs money. Usually at this point, I'll know whether it's going well or not. If it is, I'll order appetizers, or simply ask "I'm hungry, want to get a bite with me? There's a great place down the street." Sharing food and booze is a human bonding activity that spans eons of humanity. No need to fix what isn't broken.

5. I then pick a simple, casual restaurant with entrees $10-20 range. Order a round at the table, keep the conversation flowing. When the check comes, I take it. I'm the man. I'm leading, I'm in charge, I'm responsible. I pay. And it's only a $40-50 tab max. If she follows you to a restaurant and offers to split (she often will), the date is usually going well -- although insisting on splitting the bar tab at the 1st venue can be a sign that she doesn't want to be taken care of by you, and it often not a great sign. It really depends on the girl.

6. After dinner, I suggest one more bar. I pick a quiet, dark lounge. Either on the way there, or there, I go for the kiss. The rest is history.

So the key is to pick the venues. Have total control over the itinerary. If she wants to go someplace expensive, go. But when the bill comes, tell the server directly "we're splitting this." Don't even clear it with your date. You pick, you pay. She picks, she pays.
what about subsequent dates? I got a plate that never offers to pay. She’s a plate so yes I’m getting action. But still, don’t really wanna pay every time.
 

rjc149

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 17, 2019
Messages
866
Reaction score
1,323
Location
NJ/NYC
what about subsequent dates? I got a plate that never offers to pay. She’s a plate so yes I’m getting action. But still, don’t really wanna pay every time.
Just say next time "It would be nice if you paid sometimes too, ya know" with a smirk.

I dated a Chinese girl who literally wouldn't even pay her own subway fare. I had to pay for everything. Drove me batsh!t. One of the reasons I eventually cut her loose. But apparently, that's the culture. It's the same with Latinas. The man is the king. He pays for everything, and his queen serves his every want and need.
 

fastlife

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 3, 2015
Messages
1,115
Reaction score
2,139
@fastlife regularly would tell women he worked at Taco Bell, with a smirk, or something like that. The truth remained a mystery to them. Their hamster spun. Being playful and mysterious that way worked like a charm for him.
Still do sometimes lol. Just less of them believe me now. However, what I do for a living rarely ever comes up and when it does I just keep in vague and move on. If girls get too pushy about it, just bust on them for being a gold digger or make some conspiracy out of it where you can't tell them and they ask too many questions or tell them you don't know them well enough and don't want them calling your work.

Also, if you're taking plates on dates--acting like a bf--don't be surprised when they start expecting you to pay. Just invite them over for a glass of wine and quit sending mixed signals.
 

metalwater

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 23, 2019
Messages
1,607
Reaction score
1,330
Location
random
what about subsequent dates? I got a plate that never offers to pay. She’s a plate so yes I’m getting action. But still, don’t really wanna pay every time.
get another plate; spend time with the ones you feel the best and best deal with. she might naturally get weeded out when the new one takes you and pays.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

BMX

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 12, 2004
Messages
1,480
Reaction score
413
Location
Everett
Tell them you drive a trash truck or work in construction. Come on bruh.
 

logicallefty

Moderator
Joined
Apr 26, 2006
Messages
6,001
Reaction score
5,153
Age
52
Location
Northeast Florida, USA
Yep I always keep people wondering about me. I love throwing them off guard. I dress like a redneck most of the time, cuz I am one. Drive a two year old 4x4 which looks worked in. I am the furthest look from making 6 x figures that you could possibly imagine. But lately I am doing quite quite well between my cop job, tech work, and stock market. Well over 6 x figures. When I first meet people sometimes I even play a little unintelligent on purpose, just to see what kind of crap they try and throw. Gives me a good read on their character, how they treat people and if they are cool or a d0uche. The best part is when they find out I'm a cop after being a complete d0uche. Then they try and butter up and kizz my azz but it's too late. Psychology is fun game when you play it right.
 

SW15

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 31, 2020
Messages
15,432
Reaction score
12,528
I have a 6-figure career (goal is to make it 7 before I retire), which also requires me to wear a suit and tie. My suits are tailored, and I wear some fairly expensive luxury brand accessories, like neckties, shoes, briefcases, watch etc. I'm not bragging here -- it's important for my line of work to brand yourself as competent and successful.

It's quite easy to not become a gold-digger's target, by sticking to this basic itinerary:

1. I show up on most dates after work, still wearing a suit. It's an instant DHV. Your margin for errors is considerably widened when you're wearing a tailored suit (not something baggy, out of style, or black). You are treated with respect by strangers. Service people are slightly intimidated by you, and when you're warm and friendly to them, that's alpha as fvck. Women love it.

2. When asked what I do, I always answer "I work at Men's Wearhouse." It's good for a quick laugh. If she insists on asking again, I tell her what I do, then immediately change the subject. I don't like talking about work on dates, or with anyone I don't work with. If she asks "how much do you make?" my answer is "more than you, don't worry" and I know the date is probably ending after the 2nd round of drinks-- usually because contrary to movies and popular culture, very few women are obnoxious enough to ask that question on a first date if they want you to like them. It means she's not that interested in you.

3. First dates are always at a bar for drinks. Never dinner. Never coffee. Never anything but at a bar for drinks. I usually pick an upscale pub, not anything exclusive or that's clearly chosen to impress a woman. I pick a place that has Yuengling on tap and has a basic bar menu for appetizers. No place with $20 c0cktails. I order Tito's and club so I can nurse it and not get my motor running to quickly.

4. I buy the 1st round. If the conversation is going well, I'll put the 2nd round on my tab also. Yep, dating costs money. Usually at this point, I'll know whether it's going well or not. If it is, I'll order appetizers, or simply ask "I'm hungry, want to get a bite with me? There's a great place down the street." Sharing food and booze is a human bonding activity that spans eons of humanity. No need to fix what isn't broken.

5. I then pick a simple, casual restaurant with entrees $10-20 range. Order a round at the table, keep the conversation flowing. When the check comes, I take it. I'm the man. I'm leading, I'm in charge, I'm responsible. I pay. And it's only a $40-50 tab max. If she follows you to a restaurant and offers to split (she often will), the date is usually going well -- although insisting on splitting the bar tab at the 1st venue can be a sign that she doesn't want to be taken care of by you, and it often not a great sign. It really depends on the girl.

6. After dinner, I suggest one more bar. I pick a quiet, dark lounge. Either on the way there, or there, I go for the kiss. The rest is history.

So the key is to pick the venues. Have total control over the itinerary. If she wants to go someplace expensive, go. But when the bill comes, tell the server directly "we're splitting this." Don't even clear it with your date. You pick, you pay. She picks, she pays.
I agree with #3 and #6 with the exception of dinner. No dinners in restaurants prior to sex.

Anyways, Im getting tired of picking up the tab. Many girls don't offer to split or pay, and I dont know why it bothers me, but it does. I dont like paying all the time. Dont get me wrong, Im still getting the draws, but always having to pay for drinks before or whatever is annoying me.

Dudes that aint got jobs, no car, can take girls to sh1tty dive bars. Could I do the same or would it appear too unnatural / incongruent?
I don't understand what you mean by "I'm still getting the draws". Does that mean you are getting laid from 1st and 2nd dates?

The worst outcome is paying for 1st date, not having sex on the date, and then not having a 2nd date. Doing that multiple times hurts a lot, even if these are $20-$30 drinks dates.
 

EyeBRollin

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 18, 2015
Messages
10,528
Reaction score
8,532
Age
37
I make good $$$, most chicks know that when I go out with them because the conversation about jobs have come up usually. (Once I lied and told her I was a bouncer at a strip club.)

Anyways, Im getting tired of picking up the tab. Many girls don't offer to split or pay, and I dont know why it bothers me, but it does. I dont like paying all the time. Dont get me wrong, Im still getting the draws, but always having to pay for drinks before or whatever is annoying me.
This is a problem. It is our job as men to pay for the dates. Splitting is a red flag. Any girl who offers to split the bill isn’t interested in you.

Dudes that aint got jobs, no car, can take girls to sh1tty dive bars. Could I do the same or would it appear too unnatural / incongruent?
It would appear unnatural if you give off a high earner vibe. However, you control the show. In the end it doesn’t matter how it looks.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

metalwater

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 23, 2019
Messages
1,607
Reaction score
1,330
Location
random
i wanna know how to act like im making 6 figures when im a broke dude. Thats the real trick
it has to do with your reaction and attention if any to money and items money buys. impressed by something of a certain value tells.
 

King Lion

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Nov 18, 2020
Messages
312
Reaction score
272
Age
55
Never lead with your wallet!

If people ask me what I do - I say 'The best that I can and whatever I want.'

I am a Nazarite / Rasta Man and live in an upscale neighborhood.

I taught my neighbor's grandson, that used to mow my lawn, how to invest in the stock market when he was 15. He then taught his grandparents.

They all made a bag!

By age18 he had made a lot of money in the stock market, but he became a bit arrogant. In any regard, he made enough to parlay into buying a business.

So I sold him my CL500 for next to nothing because as I told him, he 'Paid The Cost To Be The Boss' - He sold it after a year for a new pickup truck.

A year or so after that he got strung out on drugs, assaulted a cop - after calling the Black cop a "n*gger" - and ended up in the psych ward.

Lucky for him the "n*gger" cop gave him a break and didn't charge him!

He told me everything and said he was ashamed because I had done so much for him - He let me know that at age 20 he earns $200k/yr. but wasn't fulfilled - and wanted me to mentor him spiritually - Which I did.

He's now a perfect example of hard work and humility.

Most days I kick around in a tee shirt, shorts and water moccasins when walking my dog, or riding my bicycle.

Some of my neighbors are gracious and cordial. Some others are not-so.

Some are cvnts and people that wouldn't acknowledge me. They feared, misjudged, or rather pre-judged me because of my stature, beard and dreadlocks.

When I'm walking with Wifey, or when we roll out - I may wear jeans, silk, and/or linens, but it's in either a Benz, a Ferrari, or a Maserati...People look at me in a wholly different way then.

It is written “For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart...I the Lord search the heart and test the mind, to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds.”

As such, I give H.I.M. all the Thanks, Praise and Glory, because I am fearfully and wonderfully made!
 
Last edited:

17 shots

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 21, 2016
Messages
1,106
Reaction score
1,018
There is no acting broke, or acting rich. That makes no sense

You can be more frugal with your money if you'd like. Rich people do that you know
 

EyeOnThePrize

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 9, 2019
Messages
1,169
Reaction score
1,928
Age
35
I always go dutch and have no problem telling her what I do(but change the subject and downplay it). No girl would ever dare bust me for not picking up the full tab, and if she does I bust her back for sexism or some free lunch bs. If she tries to make a big deal about it I pay my half and dip.

Women that expect the man to pay for everything from date number one are the worst.

I'll treat her when I'm good and ready.
 
Last edited:

EyeBRollin

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 18, 2015
Messages
10,528
Reaction score
8,532
Age
37
I always go dutch and have no problem telling her what I do. No girl would ever dare bust me for not picking up the full tab, and if she does I bust her back for sexism or some free lunch bs. If she tries to make a big deal about it I pay my half and dip.

Women that expect the man to pay for everything from date number one are the worst.

I'll treat her when I'm good and ready.
Cheap. In the initial dates, men pay. We pay the bill, they provide the sex. If either side isn’t clear on that they are getting a raw deal.

Women who let you go Dutch are either low quality or not into you (women that don’t want to feel obligated to fvck you offer to split the bill).

Franky, its etiquette for at minimum the inviter to pay the bill.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

Top