Can changes after you're old enough happen?

[moneyisking]

You are who you are. We read so many books, seduction guides, PUA stuff etc, to become better with women, life, finances, attitudes, etc. But can we really change after we are already old enough. I am 22 yrs old, and I have been reading some self-help books, but it struck me yesterday that maybe changes won't happen.

Everyone is different. If you and I compare a day where we each are put in exact same situations, still, a lot of things will be different b/c I am not you and you are not me. We will react differently to same things and each of those different choices may lead to other events. I remember my bro telling me that he doesn't get why men try so hard to become good with girls and facing the truth, most people don't get good at it anyways; said you either develop a persona that girls like as you're growing up, and if you have it, you do. You don't then you're screwed. I bet you read one of those self-help stuff books and try hard to become what you wanted to be; you're consciously thinking to apply what you learned but somehow, you find yourself acting the same way your subconscious always told you to. So... it makes sense why majority of people who are not good with women or self-esteem fail in developing themselves.. because change is so difficult. Do changes happen?

 

[Strelok]

22 old? man please 22 is actually the begin of your life as a man.

Untill your teenage years you are no more than a puppet of your family and the school system, in those years it doesnt really matters who you really are cause what happen to me is just what your family and school shaped you to be.

An afc father and a bossy mother can turn a young stallone into a pvssy just like a manly present father can transform a natural born loser into a guy who has success with girls.
Same with school and their crappy idea of making people equal, when by equal they mean telling guys to behave nice and telling girls to put a step down and all that other crap.

You're getting free in your 20s, can changes happen in your 20s? yeah they can and actually its the best age cause you start to be free for the first time.

Not only about being good with girls, screw girls they are no different than fexpensive cars, you get them when you have your sh1t togheter not when you live for them.
So focus on your life and your goals and if you'll succeed you'll go buy a lamborghini on friday and take for a trip the hot girls who "happened" to like you after you became somebody.

 

[bigneil]

22 old? man please

Man I wish I was 22 (and knew what I know now). I wouldn't go back.

22 is actually too young for a man. It's probably the most difficult age because you don't have formal experience in your career, yet you are old enough to actually think you are old, which is funny in hindsight. Plus girls that age are their most obnoxious. After that most are jaded from college promiscuity.

You've got 20 years to grow and change at least. My biggest changes came at age 26-27 and at the time I dated 18 year old women.

 

[DiamondNtheRough]

complete crap. People change and mature thru life. I'm not the same guy I was 5 years ago. Neither will you be.

 

[moneyisking]

wow i never saw it in them perspective. i guess 22 is dam too young to be soaring about. you guys are right. lot of things can happen. only problem now is that im not a virgin no more and i would like to get as much as pvssy as i desire to at parties or outside home, but it doesn't really happen. do men who are good with girls put getting pvssy into their mind and try to seduce em or does he try to develop himself and be who he is and let thigns fall where they are?

 

[sodbuster]

I've got jeans older than you. I'm still reading,learning and improving myself. Keep On growing....you are either growing... or dying [some people just take 40 years to finish the act]

 

[TheZone]

Well for one I too thought the same and sometimes still struggle with this. For example.. I'm 25 yrs old. All my life I've been a loner, outcast, ugly, bad with women, socially incompetent.

Now most people mature sexually emotionally and socially throughout their younger years, up until high school. In college and in adult life they are expected to have gone through this development. Well if you're a person like me, and you lack the experiences which are supposed to help mold you into the mature person you are supposed to be later in life... be prepared for ****. And more ****. I have "been in" Deep ****.

Sometmies there's only a time window in which you can do things and once that has passed and you couldn't do what you needed, it's over. No more. Physiology is like that. It's like a developmental disability.

But not only that.. people EXPECT you to be a certain way. To be all so mature, and experienced, etc. otherwise they won't respect you or they'll think you're stupid, or there is something wrong with you.

Therefore, to get out of this vicious cycle is akin to broadcasting to every woman in the world that you are a virgin, when no woman wants a virgin. No woman wants an inexperienced male. The reverse is true for women, males and specifically the bad boys usually, want to find virgins and the younger the better.

But as a guy like me, it's hard to develop the skills and experience necessary when you are expected to already have the skills and experience necessary to even BEGIN being social with anyone you come into contact with. Even non-social interaction. So therefore, where does the development, and maturation come from if people expect so much from you that you have no place to fit in, no place in which to work, and therefore nothing to work with?

At the very least, the older you are, the harder it can be to catch up. Definitely.

And most people saying that you're young.. well maybe they don't have the same experience as you. Most people wouldn't understand because they don't understand the level you're at.

 

[SharinganUser]

There's an old Chinese adage that goes something like this. If you are the same man you are at 50 as you were at 30, then you have wasted 20 years.