"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Can anyone recommend any good books?

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On how to meet women and what to say and things like that? I was thinking about Neil Strauss' The Game but I heard it's primary focus is his personal story.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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nsxjg80 said:
On how to meet women and what to say and things like that? I was thinking about Neil Strauss' The Game but I heard it's primary focus is his personal story.
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Firstly, The Game by Neil Strauss isn't a PUA book; it is his own story from total AFC to mPUA.

Secondly, you learn most of this stuff in the field. Here - I'll give you the secret.
 
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Just get 48 Laws of Power.

Its all you need.

Not some canned PUA openers or bullsh!t routines.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Its true that The Game is Style's own story BUT you will learn a lot. 90% of PUAs out there started by reading his book. It is a powerfull read, it gives you good field examples, and informs you in-depth on everything you need to know about the community. I personally recommed this book to eveybody that wants to know what it takes to be a PUA.
Oh yeah, and even tho its a little outdated, The Mystery Method is also a good book.
 
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r0cky said:
Its true that The Game is Style's own story BUT you will learn a lot. 90% of PUAs out there started by reading his book. It is a powerfull read, it gives you good field examples, and informs you in-depth on everything you need to know about the community. I personally recommed this book to eveybody that wants to know what it takes to be a PUA.
Oh yeah, and even tho its a little outdated, The Mystery Method is also a good book.
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90%? Didn't The Game just come out a few years ago?
 
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Master Bates said:
90%? Didn't The Game just come out a few years ago?
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Yes your statement is correct, the guy you quoted is uneducated about how long the PUA community has thrived for. However, many DJ's in recent times started by reading either that book, or David Deangelo's e-books.
I'd start off by reading those two first, than go out and use the skills you learned. You could read 100's of books and have so much knowledge, but if you can't apply it, you aren't a DJ. Simple as that.
 
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I agree with Kontroller X The 48 Laws of Power is a great book that I thoroughly enjoyed reading. It gives you plenty to think about and is a solid ideology to follow with your normal, everyday life. It isn't a direct book on meeting women by any stretch of the imagination, but it can give you the tools and mindset you need to make yourself successful and confident, both of which naturally attract women.
As far as actually dating books, like everyone else said, The Game, Double Your Dating, and The Mystery Method, are all pretty good.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I'm reading The Game 2 by Neil Strauss, its not really a book though but it might be a good read. He sexed some 60 yr old HB4 in it.. its not exactly on the same level as his last book.. hah its taking a different direction.
 
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2 good e-books are The Dating Black Book
and The Seduction Method by Carlos Xuma.
 
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Axcell said:
Yes your statement is correct, the guy you quoted is uneducated about how long the PUA community has thrived for. However, many DJ's in recent times started by reading either that book, or David Deangelo's e-books.
I'd start off by reading those two first, than go out and use the skills you learned. You could read 100's of books and have so much knowledge, but if you can't apply it, you aren't a DJ. Simple as that.
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Uneducated? I've read most of the masf archives of the top PUAs out there. I'm far from uneducated. Actually, as a reader of The Game, it is IMPOSSIBLE to be unaware of the beginnings of the community, since it explicitly describes how the comunity started and all the PUAs that already existed before Style's appearance. I'm merely saying that about 10% of PUAs existing today didn't use The Game to get started in the community. Why. Because they were already involved in it
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Relax, when I said you were uneducated, I based my response on what you said:
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90% of PUAs out there started by reading his book.
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I guarantee 90% of PUA's out there did NOT start by reading 'The Game'. I'm not debating whether you've read most of the masf archives of the top PUAs out there.. I was just stating that a statement you made was incorrect since a member (Master Bates) was clarifying about it.
 
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I bought The Mystery Method, it's a really interesting read. Seems like it's more geared towards advanced people looking to score bigger though. I'm going to read a couple more books.
 
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Two books that should (if you read them right) help you the most are

The art of seduction and 48 laws of power by Robert Greene. Alot of things you most likely don't need or won't ever ned but knowing them helps out.

Also you can download the pdf's off any sharing tool and print them out, id point you in the exact location but thats warez :)
 
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