Can a Woman be 0% B!tchy?

[zekko]

Talking about whether or not a particular woman is b!tchy:

I don't see this as being so much about feminism, moral decay, or the current western society destroying the quality of modern women, although I'm sure that's a factor. I think it's more about personality, each woman has her own individual personality. One thing the manosphere tends to do is to paint all women with the same broad brush, almost like they are all the same person. They seem to only recognize men as having individual personality differences, but that isn't accurate.

Some women are more relaxed and laid back in their interactions, and others are more tense and irritable. I think it's mostly a function of personality.

 

[bigneil]

Keep writing love poetry about prostitutes, Neil

I have never in my life met a 30 year old "man" who declared all women hotter than he ever dated to be prostitutes. Let alone a 30 year old man who thinks women want men their own age. When I was 30, in the year 2000, I was dating gorgeous 18-20 year old women. I had never been to a strip club at the time. I used to host parties and my house was full of gorgeous women, always. Once I hit the road, once I couldn't snap my fingers and have 100 people at my house, I depended more on strippers to find women of the caliber I was used to.

No, deesade is a bitter, chunky woman on welfare who portends to be the man with a rich family who likes women his own age here on SS.

 

[bigneil]

Your challenge, as a younger man, is to remove yourself from your personal experience and look at the situation on a larger scale.

Tell that to Jaylan, EyeBRollin, and deesade. It's nothing but "From the perspective of the couch at the college frat party, here is what I see..."

 

[bigneil]

If men can't deal with a capitalist sexual marketplace, then they fail as men.

Wait, I thought you declared all attractive white women to be prostitutes? Now you're referring to paying women in a marketplace, like a strip club?

As a younger guy....

Dude, 30 is not that young. And you can't take me in a fight, and you rely on daddy to pay your bills. So you're neither young, nor strong, nor independent.

Never been easier for alpha men than now..

You do not get to self-declare alpha. Look at you, trying to challenge me because I've demonstrated proof of gorgeous women. You have steam coming out your ears insisting my women A) aren't that hot, B) were paid and C) don't like me anyway. Which one is it? It's sour grapes is what it is. You describe me like fat women describe Trump and I love it. An alpha doesn't go around challenging other men and declaring himself alpha. He's too busy talking about all the women he scored with.

Interest-level trumps whatever prejudice you have over this "98% trash"..

So if a stripper has high interest level, she is ok then?

Go game a mormon or something. You are basically wanting social conditions to control hypergamy in order to make the game easier.

So mormons are bad, but strippers are prostitutes? Your hypocrisy is staggering. Again, you are setting off the Chick Detector with your every deliberation. Go ahead and get the last word in, princess. I'm done discussing this with you. But you really should learn how to work for a living.

 

[bigneil]

To summarize: deesade is a 30 year old woman, she likes guys her age, and she is NOT trashy, dammit! You want a sweeter girl, date a Mormon, but none of these hookers bigneil dates! Get some game!

 

[mrgoodstuff]

A large part of the manosphere is merely a refinement in pedestalising women.

When I ask people what is this "quality woman"? The answer seems to be a woman that isn't hypergamous, doesn't enjoy validation, doesn't sh*t-test (however mildly), doesn't gossip, etc etc.

Basically, she isn't a woman.

This is simply another way some guys use of dealing with the red-pill. "99% of women are trash! But there is the 1% that aren't!"

Women aren't trash, and there is no "0% b*tchyness". Women are just women.

Get over it.

Dude, women come in "b*tchyness" from level 0 to 10. Just like men. Everyone has qualities in different amount. The "hot girl" touted on here will have a level 7-10 b1tchiness along with it. It's part of their "looks".

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Your challenge, as a younger man, is to remove yourself from your personal experience and look at the situation on a larger scale, observing and understanding what things were like before 1986, even into the late 1800s, when feminism first appeared in a measurable way.

What's wrong with the year 1986? Seems like a rather specific year to me.

What you call "women" are internally destroyed, ego-driven monsters who are slaves to the media. That is the 98% of which I speak. They are most certainly not normally functioning women. They are emotionally damaged (and often destroyed) beings who have no idea how to treat men with respect and decency.

The remaining 2% are actual, normal, women. They have escaped the media brainwashing and every single one of them carries a respect for male authority. These are the women who we men need to find, and indeed can find. Do these "normal" women have those base negative tendencies deep down inside? Yes, they do, but those tendencies are tempered with a developed character and again, with a respect for male authority.

I've read some of your posts saying that before. But out of every 50 women I see, one of them will be a genuine WOMAN? I honestly haven't quite met nearly as many woman who are TRULY sweet with that ratio. Not since I was in elementary school anyway. And of those girls before 6th grade, I'm fairly certain they have changed once they hit puberty and immersed themselves with technology.

 

[Atom Smasher]

What's wrong with the year 1986? Seems like a rather specific year to me.

I was replying to a poster who is 30 years old and therefore did not experience the sociological shifts that I experienced.

My 98% is a convenient number representing the concept of "a tiny percentage". It could be 1% or even .5%. Perhaps only 1 out of 200 is relationship-worthy, but the idea is that it's truly a tiny percentage of women who think for themselves and are reasonably unaffected by the media brainwashing that has been prevalent for the past few decades.

 

[casanova_goat]

I've got one right now. It has only been six months, but this girl radiates this natural sweetness and kindness like a beacon. She lights up any room she walks into. Literally, all heads turn to her because of this radiance she has. I've shown some people short videos of her on the beach and elsewhere, and people immediately remark that she has an amazing spirit that shines forth.

I have tested her massively, looking for cracks in her demeanor, and have found none. And believe, me, I know how to pressure a woman. She is totally devoted, very giving, and she always looks to herself for fault first in any situation.

Will some faults pop up? Of course. Is she attracted to me for the way I make her feel and for her unique perceptions of me? Of course. That's the way women are built.

Some of us here are so jaded and cynical that they think that ALL women are terrible. The fact is that 98% of women are terrible. But that 2% does exist, and when you find one, it is unmistakable.

Things have the potential to go sour in any relationship, including mine, but isn't it better to start with excellent raw material (that upper 2%) and enjoy your time with her, than to start with your average woman and live to tolerate her wacked-out behavior? I can tell you that it's a whole different world.

As jaded as I have become with dating, where do you get your 98% figure from? No way that many women are "terrible". It is also a bit hypocritical as many guys have irremediable shortcomings. Now if you were to say more than half of millennial women make you want to go sit in a running car in your garage then I would have to agree with you.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Methinks the answer to your query is very close at hand to the astute reader.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

As jaded as I have become with dating, where do you get your 98% figure from? No way that many women are "terrible". It is also a bit hypocritical as many guys have irremediable shortcomings. Now if you were to say more than half of millennial women make you want to go sit in a running car in your garage then I would have to agree with you.

He means those who are not relationship-worthy. The number of those who are bat-sh!t crazy is lower.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I was replying to a poster who is 30 years old and therefore did not experience the sociological shifts that I experienced.

My 98% is a convenient number representing the concept of "a tiny percentage". It could be 1% or even .5%. Perhaps only 1 out of 200 is relationship-worthy, but the idea is that it's truly a tiny percentage of women who think for themselves and are reasonably unaffected by the media brainwashing that has been prevalent for the past few decades.

Ahhh, ok thank you for clarifying.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Ahhh, ok thank you for clarifying.

To me that 2% means you as a person, so 1/50 of your choices unless they come from the same CESSPOOL! will be a great match.

You see, some women that act crazy for one guy might be an angel for the next. So you never know...

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

To me that 2% means you as a person, so 1/50 of your choices unless they come from the same CESSPOOL! will be a great match.

You see, some women that act crazy for one guy might be an angel for the next. So you never know...

It is their core personality. If we are talking about those who are sweet because they're interested in you, then the number is basically 100%.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It is their core personality. If we are talking about those who are sweet because they're interested in you, then the number is basically 100%.

Your right. They can be 100% interested and sweet. And when they become stressed, drunk or worried this core personality comes out. And you fight back, and that energy may last multiple days. It is important to understand their core personality, because they are likely to fall into it when things aren't working well.

 

[zekko]

Dude, women come in "b*tchyness" from level 0 to 10. Just like men. Everyone has qualities in different amount. The "hot girl" touted on here will have a level 7-10 b1tchiness along with it. It's part of their "looks".

I agree with your first statement, that women have a b!tchiness level from 0-10, with this caveat. I don't believe in a zero b!tchiness level any more than I believe in a 10 in looks. Now a zero on the looks level isn't that hard to imagine lol.

I disagree that attractive women are necessarily b!tchy though. Probably the b!tchiest women I can think of are not attractive physically at all. I still think it's a matter of personality, how they're raised, whatever. That influences how they react to being "spoiled" by others because of their looks.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I agree with your first statement, that women have a b!tchiness level from 0-10, with this caveat. I don't believe in a zero b!tchiness level any more than I believe in a 10 in looks. Now a zero on the looks level isn't that hard to imagine lol.

I disagree that attractive women are necessarily b!tchy though. Probably the b!tchiest women I can think of are not attractive physically at all. I still think it's a matter of personality, how they're raised, whatever. That influences how they react to being "spoiled" by others because of their looks.

I've been with "bad" women who are as b1tchy and selfish as the ones the guys like on sosuave. I've also been with a more loyal and supportive woman who protects her man and helps provide. You could go more than a year without an argument with her, and the sex is great because she wants to please her man.

 

[penkitten]

Say what?

 

[bigneil]

I will add this: my philosophy with the woman who is 0% b!tchy has always been to sit back and let her reach out. It sometimes takes a week to have her initiate (I actually make her double text), but I always have her approaching me, at her pace. I might wish the pace was quicker but we have to take it as it comes. So a big key to minimizing b!tchiness might be never putting pressure on them to begin with.

 

[Atom Smasher]

You just said it... "My experience"...

Come back in 30 years (I'll be 90) and tell me how life works.

Your basing your views on a tiny bubble of personal experience and perceptions in 10 years of adulthood is what limits you from an understanding of the big picture.

What you seem to be completely oblivious to is that a man of knowledge can accurately vet women in order to find one who is perfectly good relationship material, one with minimal drama and strife.

Chemistry does indeed play a huge part. My woman brings out the very best in me, and I in her. That is the chemistry that makes a relationship work well. I couldn't care less how she would be with someone else... the fact is that our inner cores align with each other based on values and spirituality, and that's why I'm enjoying a great relationship with zero drama.

A man my age sees vastly more deeply into people than a man of 30 can. That's not a personal dig against you, rather that is the observation of a man who has lived and who has the perspective of looking back.

When I was young, I always innately knew that the older generation had worlds of knowledge to teach me. I simply took away their old-style idiosyncrasies and mined the gold within.

A man with that attitude becomes a man of knowledge. A man who discards the insights of those who have lived before him does not become anything at all. He idles in the same place forever. His mantra is "In MY experience..."

Our own experience is of some value, but wise is the man who ponders life outside of his own time.