Can A Man Ever Be Justified In Kicking A Woman' A**

[Brother_Rapp]

http://www.fact.on.ca/Info/dom/hines01.htm

http://www.recoverybydiscovery.com/studies.htm

http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-18.htm

http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-21.htm

http://www.mensrights.com.au/page13af.htm

 

[Giovanni Casanova]

Originally posted by Brother_Rapp
http://www.fact.on.ca/Info/dom/hines01.htm

http://www.recoverybydiscovery.com/studies.htm

http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-18.htm

http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-21.htm

http://www.mensrights.com.au/page13af.htm

I am sure that you believe you have a point there. I'll wait over here while you try to figure out what it is.

 

[Brother_Rapp]

http://www.fact.on.ca/Info/dom/hines01.htm

http://www.recoverybydiscovery.com/studies.htm

http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-18.htm

http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-21.htm

http://www.mensrights.com.au/page13af.htm

 

[Climax]

ya..... and so?

Originally posted by Brother_Rapp
http://www.fact.on.ca/Info/dom/hines01.htm

http://www.recoverybydiscovery.com/studies.htm

http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-18.htm

http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-21.htm

http://www.mensrights.com.au/page13af.htm

We still waiting for you to tell us what youe point is

 

[Giovanni Casanova]

Originally posted by Brother_Rapp
http://www.fact.on.ca/Info/dom/hines01.htm

http://www.recoverybydiscovery.com/studies.htm

http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-18.htm

http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-21.htm

http://www.mensrights.com.au/page13af.htm

I bet by the time you explain your point, you will have totally convinced me that kicking women's asses is a good thing.

Come on, give it a try.

 

[Luveno]

There is no excuse in hitting your girlfriend/wife in a relationship.

If she hits you, you end it. That's it. If you're married, get a good lawyer and file for divorce due to her abusive nature. You'll get away with your stuff.

However, if I'm walking down the street and I'm mugged by a female, and I can't escape, she's getting all I can dish out, as dirty as possible.

In the context of a relationship, violence is wrong on both sides. In the context of self defense from criminals, there is no discrimination.

 

[PRMoon]

Some of links that you put up openly admit that women are more likely to be murdered by their husbands then vica versa. As one of them states that though women may resort to violence, the damage done by the men is substantially higher and more brutal then that of a woman. Which was pretty much my point, It'd be just as easy to restrain a woman rather then beating the hell out of one. Your wife slapping you doesn't give you grounds to paint the walls with their blood.

I don't care what rare examples you give about Secret agents, Boxers, or Hired assasins. In the overall bell curve for statistics of women, those girls are outliers. Men are born with more body mass and power then are women. No special training is necessary for you to beat on the physically weaker sex. If I physically beat my g/f then what have I proven besides the fact that I'm stronger then she is and am more apt at fighting? I already knew that, just about every body already knew that.

My former room mate slapped me in the MGM grand and I took the high road and walked away. Less then two seconds later hotel security was all over her. I told them I didn't want to press charges and they said I may not have a choice if THEY decided to press charges, for me. So I don't want to hear how there's no justice for men who get hit by women and don't hit back, because in that case (and it's not a rare case at all) justice could have been done or might have been done even though I wasn't interested in it.

 

[affliction]

In response to the original question, yes, of course a man can be justified in kicking a woman's ass. In fact, since you haven't actually put any limitations on hypothetical situations, a man can even be justified in killing a woman.

I can't believe some people actually said 'no' to this question. Do you people have no imagination? Are you telling me that you captain-save-a-hoes cannot come up with a single scenario in your head where a woman would need to get beat down? Unbelievable.

That said, I don't think any of Brother_Rap's scenarios justify hitting a woman. All of them seem to revolve around getting embarassed in public or in front of friends. Look man, if your girl isn't respecting you in public then you make sure she knows it. Right then and there. But you don't beat the sh1t out of her for it.

If a girl did something like that to me, I would push myself right on her and whisper (firmly) something in her ear like "shut your fvcking mouth right now b1tch" or whatever. Then when you're in privacy you can lay down the rules and educate her on public etiquette.

 

[Fatality]

You guys that would never hit a girl under any circumstances, give yourself a nice pat on the back for being a very nice sweet gentleman

You're probably saying exactly what your future wife wants to hear Giovanni.

 

[PRMoon]

If the girl is some kind of super villian about to enter the world into nuclear holocaust, well then I could see my self beating her down. I would probably weigh the lives that the girl would cost against the one life that needs to be handled right then and there. So I guess something in that kind of gravity would warrent an ass beating.

I guess I was wrong in voting no but I think i voted based off instinct. I guess there could be a few scenerios where if I were overmatched or the girl was putting large amounts of people in danger and was laughing about it or something I'd probably lose it. Eh live and learn.

 

[Giovanni Casanova]

Originally posted by Fatality
You're probably saying exactly what your future wife wants to hear Giovanni.

No, there's a good chance that my future wife thinks there are situations where a woman might deserve to get her ass kicked.

However, I am my own man, and I have my own opinions just as she does, and those opinions do not always have to match 100%.

I do agree with her opinion that Brother Rapp is only asking this question in an effort to justify his actions.

I am also sorely disappointed in his lack of balls... it doesn't take any courage whatsoever to go onto a man's website and ask the kinds of questions he does. His questions show a very deep-seated insecurity.

You guys that would never hit a girl under any circumstances, give yourself a nice pat on the back for being a very nice sweet gentleman

The question is not "would you hit a girl?" The question is "would you 'kick a girl's ass'?" I have never seen a situation where I would "kick a girl's ass." Are you saying that "kicking a girl's ass" is the same as "hitting a girl"?

I suppose it is all subjective and very much dependent on what your definition of "ass kicking" is.

- If a girl came at me wanting to kick my ass, I would leave. I don't have any desire to get into a physical fight with anyone, much less a girl.

- If a girl started going nuts on me, attacking me with her fists, I would leave if possible and subdue her if not. When I say "subdue", I mean that I would render her harmless using the least amount of physical force necessary -- i.e., restraining her.

- If a girl attacks you with a weapon, I would leave, and if leaving was impossible, I would disarm and restrain her using the least amount of force necessary.

- I would NOT kick a girl's ass simply because she "embarrassed" me. I will leave that to those of you who have little tiny d*cks and have something to prove.

- I would NOT kick a girl's ass simply because she angered me. I will leave that to those of you who have little tiny d*cks and have something to prove.

See a pattern yet?

 

[Wyldfire]

Okay...the issue with this thread isn't so much that there are never any situations where it would be acceptable for a man to hit a woman. Hell, my son's friend's natural mother is crazy and showed up at the kid's house and attacked him with a knife. The father ran downstairs, hit her once and knocked her out then called the police. He was protecting his son...and what he did was justifiable.

The problem is that Brother_Rapp is purposely posting some pretty offensive garbage that is pi$$ing people off...and understandably so. Any guy who would "kick the a$$" of a woman who embarassed him in public deserves the felony assault charges and conviction it would ultimately lead to. On top of that, there are a lot of very young and somewhat lost teenage boys reading this forum who are often a bit too easily influenced by garbage such as this. Imagine a bright kid reading this and taking it seriously and trying it out for himself? So much for college and making the most of his life. He'd be sitting in a cell with some big guy in a place where guys who commit assault against children and women are looked at as only slightly better than pedophiles and rapists.

He needs to be more responsible and conscientious about what he writes on here...just like we ALL need to be. THAT is what is wrong with threads like this.

 

[Brother_Rapp]

affliction

That said, I don't think any of Brother_Rap's scenarios justify hitting a woman. All of them seem to revolve around getting embarassed in public or in front of friends. Look man, if your girl isn't respecting you in public then you make sure she knows it. Right then and there. But you don't beat the sh1t out of her for it.


Brother Rapp
Probably not the best of scenarios I could have used. That was the white gal blurting out the niggu thing. I think that those references to your gal hitting you (especially in public) is a good one to illustrate a point. When I spoke of the secret agent ladies, that was used to say that all ladies ain’t helpless. I believe that there is a growing number of women who take self-defense classes. Women are human beings. Human beings (men or women) can use their skills for offense as well as defense. I have previously stated that people should try to work out their problems verbally. Why a number of you have failed to acknowledge that I have said this is beyond me. I have also said that this is not about wife abuse. I also believe that in a physical altercation between a man and a woman it is generally perceived as being the man’ fault. For a woman to generally be perceived as the victim in this modern age of equality is totally unfair. My position is , “ If a WOMAN steps across that line of violence, I would step across that line with her.” For those that want to continually call me names, I have nothing to say to you. For those that think that my post are reckless, I say that through debate a person can find the answers for himself. What’s reckless is not discussing controversial topics.

 

[Brother_Rapp]

Debates are not and should not be used as pissing contests. They are an exchange of views. In America, we respect the right of all individuals to express their views. We have the right to either agree or disagree with another’ views. We do not have the right to persecute an individual by way of physical force or foul name calling for expressing views that we may disagree with.

 

[thefonz]

"A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject" _ Winston Churchill

I quote this because brother rapp seems to display a serious obsession with hitting women, I don't understand it. Is it ok for a guy to hit a gal? NO. Is it ok for a gal to hit a guy?NO. Is it ok for an old person to hit a young person?NO. Is it ok for a parent to hit a child?.....Figuring out the pattern yet, hitting in general is a last resort self defense mechanism when the mind yields to anger and fear. In my opinion it's one of the biggest acts of desperation a person can exhibt. It's primal and if a person does it on a regular basis it shows a serious lack of control and personal discipline. If you can teach yourself to hit hard with your words you can take out the biggest men in the world.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

If you can teach yourself to hit hard with your words you can take out the biggest men in the world.

That's the kind of statement that gets kids beat on the playgorund.

Women have a way of making men snap, they have such a sharp tongue. I don't think that every man who hits a woman should go to jail. I'm against beating anyone for a silly reason. If I were to come home and the chick is sleeping with another guy, I'lll shoot her, if she hits me in rage, I would like to say that I'll restrain her until she calms down. But a guy can only take so much. I'm the kind of person who takes a lot of sh&* before I snap. The closest I've come to hitting a women is the time a female taunting, teased, hit me, I grabbed her, shooked her, and pushed her against the wall. My friends stopped me before anything else happened. We all like to play nice guy, but sometimes our tempers and circumstance get the best of us. It surely takes alot of strengh to walk away, but who always does the right thing???

If you want to stay free, always walk away.

 

[penkitten]

again i question if you kicked someone's ass before this thread was written?
if you feel justified in that, thats your opinion. i am just curious .

 

[Brother_Rapp]

thefonz
"A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject" _ Winston Churchill

I quote this because brother rapp seems to display a serious obsession with hitting women, I don't understand it.


Brother Rapp
This is the topic. If we were talking about gambling, I'd try to stay on topic and talk about that as well.

I used an example of a white gal embarressing her black guy in public by using the word niggu. I back tracked on that by saying that it was not a good example. So you can't say that I haven't changed my mind on any thing.

Where do you get the impression that I have an obsession with hitting women? All my posts have mainly dealt with self-defense. I have not put forth one example as to where the guy is the first person to use violence in an altercation between a man and a woman except for that one previous one on the embarressment thing.

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

I would never hit a lady, but I would hit a b****

Every man has to discipline his woman sometimes. There is a difference between hitting a woman for no good reason, and disciplining a woman.

SCENARIO 1: DISCIPLINING A WOMAN
You and your girlfriend get into an argument in your room. You don't let her win this time, and when a female doesn't get her way they turn psycho most of the time. Your girlfriend starts screaming, she starts giving you a classic female temper tantrum that most men will have the bad luck of experiencing at least once in their lives. She is acting like a psycho b****, what do you do? you order her to stop. She doesn't stop, and worse she gets one of your cherished trophys you got from the high school football team and smaches it on the ground. You proceed to smacking her across the face in order for her to stop and come to her senses. She stops screaming, sits there quietly, shocked at what happened, the wild horse has been tamed by its master. Now that is disciplining a woman, you are smacking her in order to discipline her, not because you hate her and want to hurt her. You want her to stop and come to her senses.

Of course disciplining a woman doesn't always involve hitting her, most of the time you just have to assert yourself as a man and let her know you're the boss.

SCENARIO 2: HITTING A WOMAN FOR NO GOOD REASON
You ask your girlfriend who she was talking to on the phone, she says just a friend. You are a jealous son of a gun who wants to know everything. You proceed to smacking your girlfriend accross the face, saying to her that she is cheating on you. That is not discipline, you are hitting your woman for no good reason and out of anger. Discipline is not from anger, infact discipline is used to stop anger most of the time.

 

[Wyldfire]

Neither of your examples are cause for hitting anyone...female or otherwise.