I'm trying to build up my calves, but I feel like the calf press machine, where you stand on your toes and left the weight on your shoulders isn't working them efficiently. Is there any other recommended calf excersises you guys have tried?
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I actually do bike quite a bit, but perhaps not enough.Francisco d'Anconia said:Bike.
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Perhaps, it has a lot to do with form too. I don't have monster calves but they have hella definition. The bikes I ride you have to lock your shoes onto the pedals, both legs work during the entire revolution of the pedal stroke instead of just mashing down. An hour on a Lifecycle (with toe clips or foot straps) doing the preprogramed hill routine three or four days a week will typically show you results (definition) in only a couple of weeks.speakeasy said:I actually do bike quite a bit, but perhaps not enough.
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love itjoekerr31 said:you have to sleep standing up. you'll double the size of your calves in 3 months.
Please sign up for a statistics class.blinkwatt said:I'm not one to say 'it's genetics' but I think calves are the only muscles that your girth will be determined by genetics. I've seen people who lift the same amount of weights for the same reps for their calves....one has HUGE calves,the other has skinny looking ones. You just gotta deal with it.
How many times per week do you do this? Also, how vital is it that it's a 45 degree leg press?Warboss Alex said:This is the one way I know to make even stubborn calves grow like hell. Disclaimer: it's a variation of the DC calf protocol and I didn't invent it, I just used it a little differently.
You'll need a 45 degree leg press for this. Put only the tip of your foot on the pad (basically it's a toe press). On the press, be explosive as you can. On the negative, make it slow, five timed seconds. On the bottom of the negative, hold it for ten timed seconds, i.e. stretch the calf in this way. Then on the positive explode up, back down for five seconds, hold at the bottom for ten seconds, etc. Don't cheat with the timing as that's where the magic lies.
Do 1-2 sets of 10-15 reps (if you really put your all into it you'll only manage one set). It will be easy for the first few reps but around the halfway mark it'll become painful and you'll be tempted to make the negative faster or the stretch at the bottom less time: DON'T. It's the stretching that does the trick.
You shouldn't be able to walk comfortably after this and will need a few minutes to gather yourself.
Yeah it's brutal but unless you have good calf genetics you need something like this: no amount of high-rep raises will do anything for you. If you do calves on a non-leg day then make sure to warm up on this exercise well, because brutal stretching of a cold muscle can be very nasty.
Your calves should change shape after a couple of months.![]()
...Master Bates said:How many times per week do you do this? Also, how vital is it that it's a 45 degree leg press?
DO IT ON LEG DAY E.G. ONCE A WEEK, 1 SET SHOULD DO IT
45 DEG LEG PRESS IS THE 'EASIEST' WAY TO DO THE EXERCISE WITHOUT YOUR CALVES SLIPPING DURING THE STRETCH
My calves f*cking SUCK. They always have. Doesn't help (aesthetically) that I'm thin boned. Months of squats/dead lifts don't work, months of biking doesn't work, months of running doesn't work.
MUCH LIKE 100s OF CALF RAISES WON'T WORK EITHER.. CALVES ARE LIKE ABS, HIGH REPS DO VERY LITTLE FOR GROWTH
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