calling her out for being a gold digger she backtracks

[big weezy]

I had a match on tinder and was talking to her a bit on whatsapp, she is on holiday and not back for 2 weeks so can't meet her till then.

Initially on tinder she wasn't replying to me after I told her where I live then as a joke I called her a goldidgger to stimulate a response. She replied. Turns out she was not somewhere with reception etc but that's bs cos it tells you when someone is last seen on tinder.

Anyway todays convo went like this:

(some back and forth convo not relevant to this thread.. argument starts from here onwards)

Me: Im one of those guys who would encourage you to keep buying shoes rather than asking why you have so many hahaha
Me: Guys spend 30k on cars so women buying $500 shoes isn't really that bad comparatively
Her: I'm one of those girls that would encourage you to buy me my shoes for me If you want me too look pretty for you...
Me: Haha all women are like that. If you make it to be my fiancé then expect lots of gifts, before that then no
Her: Okay bye bye
(me sending some photos which were pending before i read her previous msg)
Her: In all honesty, I really don't think we are a good match for each other
Me.: Yeah me too.. was I right about the gold digger thing then
Me:: You just want stuff I want a relationship immaterialistic of materialistic things.
Me: That's what's important
Me: I want a woman to like me for me not where we go/what I buy them
Me: If you were joking fair enough but timing is bad.
Her: Lol, not at all. I just don't like people making outright statements. I like buying things for the people around me
Me.: I've dealt with enough money chasing women looking for a mooch to buy them sh1t
Her: And I think a man should always look after a woman
Me:: Well isn't what you said outright
Me:: Statement
Me: Too
Her: I said I didn't like what you said
Me.: Yeah if she's going to be my wife
Me: What did I say
Me.: That was so bad
Her: That a woman would have to be your wife before you ever bought her anything
Me: You didn't like that I won't buy you stuff till you're a potential fiancé
Me: That's what it translates too
Me: I didn't say anything
Me: I said lots of gifts
Her:: Is that not the same as a woman saying that she will not hug or kiss you until you are engaged
Me: Fiancé onwards
Me:: Before then then no
Her: Or a man for that matter
Me: Not lots of gifts
Her: Anyway
Her: I have to go now!
Me: Nope because hug or kiss is immaterialistic
Me:: No comparison
Her: As the wifi is going
Me:: You're comparing
Me: Bullsh1t
Me: Stuff with affection
Her: Bullsh1t?
Her: I'm not comparing the two
Her: They are two different entities
Me: Yes you were
Her: I'm just saying
Me: U just said
Me: Is that not the same
Me: As
Me: A woman who does not kiss or hug
Me: Before engaged
Her: I find it a very peculiar characteristic to withhold something until you are engaged
Me: You're saying that's the same
Her: Anyway
Me: Withold what exactly
Her: You are a very argumentative person lol
Her: Bye bye xox
me: No lots of gifts
me: I didn't say no gifts
me: Just not lots of them
me: I want a woman to like me for me not for stuff I buy her..so maybe my gold digger statement is true
me: Even tho i meant it in jest
me: That's what you sound like
me: Basing on whether we're a match on whether I buy you stuff
me: That's exactly what that translates to
her: Oh nooo, I think you've misunderstood what I've said
me: You should care more if I actually care about you give you attention affection etc immaterial of matetialistic things
her: I'm saying that I don't think that we match based in your actions after that statement
her: In the sense that you have been very argumentative
me: You want to not pursue this on basis of whether I buy you stuff. That's exactly what you have said
her: And I'm not too find of arguing
her: *fond
me: Bull****
me: You said wer're not a match
me: Because I said I wouldn't buy you stuff till engagement
her: You're really pissing me off and wasting my time
me: That's where you said it
her: I'm not going to waste my time with you anymore
her: I haven't seen my family members in over two years
her: Not gonna sit here and argue with you
me: Look you're right we wont work you want materialistic stuff aka gold digger which is more important to you than anything else
her: Sorry going to have to block you
her: Not at all
me: Or just want attention
her: It's just funny that you think that
me: Yes that's what you said
me: If not
me: Then prove it
her: You don't even know me so please stop making such harsh statements
me: Cos you said we were not a match
her: I have nothing to prove to a fool like you
me: Based on me
me: Saying I won't buy
me: Gifts
me: Till engagement
me: You're all talk then
me: If you're not then prove it
her: You've just probably let go one of the most amazing women you could ever have the potential to meet
me: Not likely
me: Most amazing girls
me: Would not be a gold digger
me: With gold digging
me: Tendency
me: Saying we're not a match
me: On basis of me saying that gifts before engagement
(she blocks me)
me: Wont happen (last msg doesn't deliver)

Im not asking how to get this girl im asking how should I have handled it different?

as in she tried to unsubtley hint at me buying her sh1t, so i countered with my whole no gifts before fiance routine (when really i meant it to be no 'lots of gifts' before engagment rather than 'none before'.. basically lots of gifts at engagement onwards.. but i can see it being perceived as no gifts at all before fiance.. but that's a side issue.

i'm very argumentative and at the point of her saying we're not a match i thought f it, might as well argue my point rather than let her win. she's backtracking on saying that reason we're not a match is cos of the arguing which is BS cos if you read the convo above she said it before i started arguing with her.. then she tries to save face by saying it's cos of the arguing.. she has no leg to stand on.

i know you should usually just ignore them when they say things unsubtely to buy them stuff. .ie control the frame.. but im getting into too many of these disputes with potential plates, my declaring no gifts before fiance level has been received ok so far she is the first to dismiss me on it.

how should i handle these situations better?

as at the point of her saying we're not a match i can only agree and not do the afc thing of plea-ing etc.

 

[:-)]

Wow. You're about to get torn a new one.

 

[big weezy]

I would have stopped right here:

Her: I'm one of those girls that would encourage you to buy me my shoes for me If you want me too look pretty for you...

So, that was like 20 seconds in. I would have simply said "This is the age of equality, everyone buys their own ****. Goodbye."

yes, so im right ignore and carry on.

tbh im not in america though, in europe esp southern europe the culture still is the man takes care of the woman etc. italy spain greece etc. also eastern europe and baltic states.

in northern europe in sweden and norway etc men and women are equal that's normal

places like the UK though it's a mix of both or more of one or the other or less of equality.

in the UK women still earn less than men for the same job even in finance so they use that as an argument as to why men should pay.

but i do agree in america there's more equality so your statement is true.

 

[big weezy]

Wow. You're about to get torn a new one.

haha.. i perfectly agree. i expect to be slated on here cos i'm not handling these things as i should.

i'm naturally too argumentative and defensive that i'm more than willing to waste my time to argue my point to 'win'.. i.e. at that point i already know i'm not gona get the girl so i dont care and rather just get one up on them calling them out on their BS not really caring what they think of me but not letting them get away with tryna lie and backtrack.

i guess it's petty, and immature but i dont really care, i guess i need to tame my argumentative side. i find it tough to just not respond with silence. i rather call them out and have the last word or reiterate my point to p1ss them off to make them feel foolish and stupid cos im smarter than them.

 

[big weezy]

I would have stopped right here:

Her: I'm one of those girls that would encourage you to buy me my shoes for me If you want me too look pretty for you...

So, that was like 20 seconds in. I would have simply said "This is the age of equality, everyone buys their own ****. Goodbye."

it wasn't 20 secs in precisely, before we were talking for about 5 mins about something unrelated i think about fashion cos she's a fashion buyer etc but it wasn't relevant to the convo so i didn't include it.

it was over whatsapp so a lot of my typings were not in immediate response to her previous msg but more my typings and pressing send before i finished sentence. like a messenger convo.

i think your reply is actually really good i'll use that in future.. be the one to dismiss her, if she';s still interested she will probably try to say sorry or apologise or try to explain herself etc?

but i doubt it she's old fashioned and south american

 

[Greasy Pig]

I'd definitely adopt a more playful uncaring attitude. Have those heavy conversations after you get the bang at least!
She was acting like a typical modern entitled bytch and you shouldn't tolerate her "affection-for-gifts" BS. But don't engage a woman so harshly on things you don't agree on. Read up on amused mastery and turn these situations into an opportunity to prove you won't be affected.
A chick like that needs gaming, not outright war. You just fell into the age old trap by escalating to DEFCON 1 so quickly.

 

[nismo-4]

Of course your princess is in another castle.

But she dumped you because she thought you'd cave into her whims. You didn't. She really wasn't attracted to you anyway. She's gonna try to find some chump who she can mooch off of. Be proud you're not that chump.

My dad made sure he was in control of this woman who believed that "I love you" equals buying high end jewelery from Macy's. He never catered to that whim. Though this woman could be considered a MILF, she eventually found an old chump who would cater to her little Macy's addiction. This was back in 1998 in New Orleans. To this day, she may be still considered attractive, but I don't let her anywhere near my family. Especially near my dad's millionaire brother/ my uncle.

 

[sylvester the cat]

well what a waste of time that conversation was. OP why are you trying to reason and use logic with a woman for? who cares what she said? all that should concern you is: are you going to get any action with this woman? as the answer was no in this case you should have ejected at your earliest convenience.

are you looking for action or are you just looking to validate your own doubts about your intelligence by 'winning' arguments? cos that doesn't look too smart to me. a smart man doesn't need to win arguments unless you're a lawyer and your livelihood depends on it. a smart man knows what is or isn't a waste of time.