“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

C/F on job interviews?

Effington

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 26, 2007
Messages
627
Reaction score
4
I was on a job interview (for what seems like a very good job at a Fortune 500 company), and decided to try out some humor with the staff, the goal was to portray some personality. It's my first job interview in a few years so I'm definitely a little nervous. With the guy (who'd be my boss) I was just using sarcastic humor. For example, (this is a manufacturing facility) he talks about some equipment they refurbish for McDonalds, and he said they screw the machines more than anyone because of the food quality and fatty residue, I'm like, damn, I thought McDonalds was fat free, well there goes my diet. Just like 2-3 little comments like that, I try to show some personality cause they're all pretty casual and laid back.

With the woman HR girl it was a little of the same. One of the questions she asked was something like, "I notice you're taking night classes, how do you like it?" And I replied, "Man, I hate school." I must have had a serious face for a second because she looked shocked, she was like, "Are you kidding?" But then I started laughing and so did she. She said that they always encourage her to go back to school, so I elaborated that while a masters program is slightly more difficult than a bachelor's, the hardest part is that everyone is working full-time and usually has a commute, so going to class for 3 hours after work is really shooting all your free time away, I mentioned that it's even harder if you have kids, cause she did. The guy asked that same question too, I said that it wasn't too bad, but some of the financial stuff is difficult. I noticed he was trying to impress me with financial terms and numbers before, talking about the "delta of the product variances", which is why I thought I'd throw in that I emphasized in finance, as if that may make me more of a better fit or something.

I was supposed to meet with another manager but he was busy, so we kind of just chatted for about 20-30 minutes, shooting the ****, she was talking about how she used to live in my part of town and stuff like that. The other manager returned her call and said he was busy for the rest of the day, so she asked what days I can come back next week to meet him (he's the big boss so it's important). At the end I asked for a business card and she grinned, so I kinda messed with her like, "Yay, I finally get to give one out!" She was kinda shocked/laughing, then I mentioned how so many of my friends never need to give out their card, and she mentioned some story about how she got a promotion 6 months ago but still had a full stack of her old cards so just uses those, all same info with a different title.

It seemingly went well I think, but I'm kinda paranoid that the smiles and laughs could be cover for thinking I'm crazy? A job interview is a little different than trying to pick up a girl, I was just playing it the same cause I figured, they hire people they like. I had experience in this job, and the other guy said, hey you already passed test 1 (interview with corporate recruiter last week) so we know you can do the job, I wanna make sure I can work with you.

Think this was a good or bad approach?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

Read more...

Stéphane

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 7, 2007
Messages
505
Reaction score
4
WTF, job interviews are about logic, not emotional stuff... Just because they like you, doesn't mean there going to hire you dude...
 

DJDamage

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 6, 2004
Messages
5,657
Reaction score
104
Location
Canada
They are only thinking if you can do the job and put green in their pocket.

You don't want to appear C0cky on an interview and look like a clown. Be Humble, sincere and proffesional! and above all know your sh1t, otherwise you got nothing.

Stick to picking up girls with C&F and don't be a wise guy in the interview.
 

Effington

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 26, 2007
Messages
627
Reaction score
4
So would you say the approach I used was bad? I dunno if I'd consider it ****y, I guess I just cracked a few jokes.

As for the work related questions, I definitely feel like I aced them, besides asking about my background (which I had already finely tuned/highlighted important parts to match the job description at hand), the hiring manager only asked one question, he said if I hired you, what would you change? When I gave my answer he said that was actually exactly what I'm looking for, then asked if I had any questions.

When he turned me over to HR he said something like, "I gave him the tour, his resume looks good, he asked questions...what else you need? You know I'm no good at this stuff. I'm busy and they need me at xxx..." That would let me believe that the HR girl has a pretty good say in the decision (usually it's just the manager making a decision and others approving).
 

Stéphane

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 7, 2007
Messages
505
Reaction score
4
Well, as you long you didn't overdo it, I think everything should be alright.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

Read more...

PrinceBeavis

Banned
Joined
Jun 7, 2007
Messages
410
Reaction score
3
Stéphane said:
WTF, job interviews are about logic, not emotional stuff... Just because they like you, doesn't mean there going to hire you dude...

NOT!

While it's totally crucial not to overdo it, and you don't want to look like a joker or ****y jerk, they want to know if they can stand being around you for 8 + hours a day. Of course you have to have the skills, but a little appropriate humor and personality can make a difference.
 

Obsidian

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 17, 2006
Messages
2,554
Reaction score
26
Location
TN
Being suave has worked for me before, and ultimately I think being funny and slightly ****y will become part of your personality (a good part of it) which you won't even have to try to convey. Once that happens, there's no need to downplay your personality just to satisfy some potential boss in a stupid interview.

I think you probably did the right thing, but you probably shouldn't talk about hating school, whether it's true or not. Pookish commandment #2: Reject Negativity.
 

Effington

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 26, 2007
Messages
627
Reaction score
4
Yeah, I her told I was joking about hating school, and we talked about it for a bit, so I think I smoothed that over.

She didn't seem like the note-taker type but she took notes word-for-word on me when we were discussing salary and when we were talking about scheduling a next week interview, so I think everything went pretty well. The corporate recruiter I talked to last week told me the pay range of this position and it was a pretty big raise on my last job so I'm pretty excited.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 10, 2003
Messages
15,481
Reaction score
65
Location
Galt's Gulch
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you have to explain that you were joking you have completely misused c/f. It's best not to use it rather than using it inappropriately and having to apologize for it.
 

BMX

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 12, 2004
Messages
1,477
Reaction score
408
Location
Everett
Another point of advice is to do a little research to get to know the company. I didn't and needless to say I never got the job at the gym but they got robbed a week later :rolleyes: . Now I've got a college admissions interview this week, looks like I'll be using some of this stuff.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

selfmademob

Banned
Joined
Jul 8, 2005
Messages
256
Reaction score
0
Age
39
Location
San Antonio
My potentiall boss at an interview was one of these 25 year old single ***** girls who need a slong in her pvssy.

So I am like "yo, u hire me Ill eat you out"


needless to say I got a restraining order against me... :(
 

Effington

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 26, 2007
Messages
627
Reaction score
4
Thanks, yeah I did my background research, but they actually didn't talk about that at all. Even though it's a Fortune 500 company this place really had a small company feel. They talked about how they are pretty independent in terms of P&L and hiring and everything, but corporate also helps with stuff like Six Sigma training, and makes sure everyone knows about advancement opportunities elsewhere within the company, which is really cool. Usually you are supposed to talk about aspects of the company that interest you when they ask, "Why did you apply to this position?" but she cut me off before I could even get there, I first mentioned how the job description fit my previous experience, and she was like awesome, that's all I wanted to hear. One of my first questions for her was "What are you looking for in your candidates?" and she said someone with experience in this position and looking to advance, so I think that was a very good sign. (I mentioned I left my previous position because there was no room to advance)

I know I'm totally overthinking this, I know I did a good job, but I just hate that waiting game of after the interview and before the next contact.
 

babsan

Don Juan
Joined
Jun 23, 2006
Messages
40
Reaction score
0
C/F doesn't seem appropriate. Just go into story telling about previous experiences and how that can contribute to your performance for the company. Just be real.
 

Effington

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 26, 2007
Messages
627
Reaction score
4
Yeah I found it odd that none of them asked standard questions like, "What is your greatest strength/weakness" and "Describe a time where you overcame a problem..." but those were questions asked by the corporate recruiter, so maybe she passed those along. I know I aced that interview, the lady said that I gave the best answers she'd heard in awhile, and that my projects were "very impressive, especially at your age." Plus, I got a call from the local HR girl like 20 minutes after speaking with the corporate girl, so they didn't waste any time in making a decision.

The guy said to me that since I was there, he knew I had the capacity to do the job, he just wanted to make sure he could work with me. The HR girl had a few more standard interview questions. I'd say for the most part I was pretty typical with my responses, my original post only highlights the humor I tried to portray, I don't think I was being a clown or anything. Just showing some personality.
 
Top