"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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C+F is backfiring...

April_Infinite

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Working on correcting my behavior with women, I've taken up ****y and Funny. It is pretty nice, in good situations, it has worked wonders. But it still isn't effective helping.

Being known as the "nicest guy ever" by my peers is killing me when using it. I've been trying using it on my female friends, they get pissed, since I'm supposed to be a nice person. Are you not supposed to flirt with friends or something?


Then approaching, I use it; I haven't tried it on an outgoing girl, but I expect it would work. But with the introverted girls, they take my ball busting personally when I initiate it, and find me jerkish.


Any suggestions?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Who cares how female friends respond? Its only the ones you want to date that matter.
 

Jay Jay

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Well

Firstly, I wouldn't go using any techniques on female friends until I have mastered them, its probably a freak out for them...

Okay, like Negs, (and really C&F is kinda like a neg anyway) C&F is farkin hard to do well.

Yeah yeah, I get the DeAngelo news letter and it seems every day some guy has become the biggest stud in the world from using it...

Well I'm not saying that it doesn't work, on the right girl it is a killer. But on some girls it is a massive turn off. DeAngelo and his followers like to say that these girls have no sense of humour... But in my experience some chicks just don't dig it.

But anyway, I would suggest that you might be putting too much ****y and not enough funny into it.

You might be trying a bit too hard.... actually I'm pretty sure of it... forget "busting balls" until you are better at it.

Like Negs C&F is designed for girls who would think their worth is higher than yours. Maybe you are too good looking, charming etc to use it on all but the hottest girls.
 

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It takes a little practice with C&F. At first, it can come off as putdowns, and no one is into insults. Think more of playful bantering...imagine someone teasing you about your hair, car, etc. She'd have to make me laugh or else, I'd start to distance her until she cleaned up her act. Also consider calibrating. If the woman isn't that hot, she'll respond more to connection, a good word.

Recommend you work on bantering, and being playful at first. You can do that with your male and female friends, just joking about things. Learn what gets a laugh vs what gets a frown there.
 

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Because I already have very little female friends as it is, without pissing off more...
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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April_Infinite said:
...Then approaching, I use it; I haven't tried it on an outgoing girl, but I expect it would work. But with the introverted girls, they take my ball busting personally when I initiate it, and find me jerkish....
When did ball busting become ****y or funny?
 

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You've got to be careful with it. Some girls take C+F as an insult, depending on their sense of humour and their self esteem. Also, some chicks are just not funny, and that is a fact. If it's not working with them, quit it. I busted some C+F on this French girl two weeks ago, she was so offended that she told me we couldn't speak anymore (after I just met her), but her friends were loving it.
 

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Dude of course your female friends will be insulted if u use this with them. They know u as Mr. nice guy.

But if u didn't know these girls than it would work.... ****y funny will work for sure with certain girls.
 

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So I learned today...

Only C+F people who you aren't familar with you, with friends, the ****y part will just piss them off.

Only use it on girls that seem open to it.
 
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