"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Built up connection, attraction, make then smile, then they flake

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What gives? I did everything right talking to them. Then they either flake or act like i didnt get them in a good mood...Guessing there logic is kicking in they think im a player of some sorta then there guard goes up again? This is either on the phone or in pesron when im approaching. and number closing
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Time ran out. You didn't complete the mission before the clock expired. Next!!

- This is part of the numbers game theory. I shouldn't even call it a theory since it's completely true, but whatever. Contrary to what anyone says, pickup is a numbers game, like everything else in life, and you simply cannot win them all (I know you already know this based on other threads, just reminding you.) That's why you spin minimum 5-10 plates at once, you'll always have a few targets each week to work with.


If I were you I wouldn't waste my time on here trying to crack the code for each one. It becomes a waste of time real fast. We've all been there. Sometimes it's real BAD! You'll do everything right, you'll pick her up FLAWLESSLY, you'll take her out, have a PERFECT time, kiss-close.. Everything is fine, then POOF she vanishes. WTF Right? Nah. It's just how people are. Good life lesson too.


There's always a reason, but only 1% of the time will it have to do with you! It's not worth figuring out. Some of these reasons:

- She has other plates that she thinks are more worthwhile
- She's a serial dater
- She can't get over someone else
- She's not single
- She's only going out to validate her insecurities
- She wanted a free ______
- She wanted attention / is an attention wh0re
- She is turned off by your alpha behavior (lol)
- etc.



Best advice regarding this: When you attract a girl correctly, and she's into you, it very rapidly becomes less and less important what you say/do/act/care/smell like/look at.

I don't know if you've come across it yet, but an awesome way to see where you're at with a girl is to do things opposite of how you're "supposed to." - More literally: Challenging yourself by intentionally making your game harder and removing attraction. (!!) These are basically reverse, non-alpha sh!t tests to judge whether you're dealing with a girl who is attracted to YOU.

^ This is "advanced" game, so I'm not saying to go out and do this, but holy sh!t is it FUN! Let me know if that makes any sense.. If you need an example, just think of any situation where you'd game yourself while with a girl - (falsely) Disqualifying yourself is a good one. Whatever you do just avoid self-depreciation.

I got a little carried away there heh, but I hope that helps.
 

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rocket87 said:
Time ran out. You didn't complete the mission before the clock expired. Next!!

- This is part of the numbers game theory. I shouldn't even call it a theory since it's completely true, but whatever. Contrary to what anyone says, pickup is a numbers game, like everything else in life, and you simply cannot win them all (I know you already know this based on other threads, just reminding you.) That's why you spin minimum 5-10 plates at once, you'll always have a few targets each week to work with.


If I were you I wouldn't waste my time on here trying to crack the code for each one. It becomes a waste of time real fast. We've all been there. Sometimes it's real BAD! You'll do everything right, you'll pick her up FLAWLESSLY, you'll take her out, have a PERFECT time, kiss-close.. Everything is fine, then POOF she vanishes. WTF Right? Nah. It's just how people are. Good life lesson too.


There's always a reason, but only 1% of the time will it have to do with you! It's not worth figuring out. Some of these reasons:

- She has other plates that she thinks are more worthwhile
- She's a serial dater
- She can't get over someone else
- She's not single
- She's only going out to validate her insecurities
- She wanted a free ______
- She wanted attention / is an attention wh0re
- She is turned off by your alpha behavior (lol)
- etc.



Best advice regarding this: When you attract a girl correctly, and she's into you, it very rapidly becomes less and less important what you say/do/act/care/smell like/look at.

I don't know if you've come across it yet, but an awesome way to see where you're at with a girl is to do things opposite of how you're "supposed to." - More literally: Challenging yourself by intentionally making your game harder and removing attraction. (!!) These are basically reverse, non-alpha sh!t tests to judge whether you're dealing with a girl who is attracted to YOU.

^ This is "advanced" game, so I'm not saying to go out and do this, but holy sh!t is it FUN! Let me know if that makes any sense.. If you need an example, just think of any situation where you'd game yourself while with a girl - (falsely) Disqualifying yourself is a good one. Whatever you do just avoid self-depreciation.

I got a little carried away there heh, but I hope that helps.
Done that, got 3 girls hitting me up like that.


- She has other plates that she thinks are more worthwhile
- She's a serial dater
- She can't get over someone else
- She's not single
- She's only going out to validate her insecurities
- She wanted a free ______
- She wanted attention / is an attention wh0re
- She is turned off by your alpha behavior (lol)
- etc.[
Didnt think of all of that. Exact answer I was looking for
 

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About the cracking each girl thing, you should check out Vince DiCarlo's Pandora's Box System. That thing is pretty intense!
 

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my classic test for knowing if a girl is really into me, flirt with them for awhile, act aloof/mysterious(I have this down stone cold because it is my personality), blah blah etc. then the next time you are in person with them mention another girls name or say I was doing this with "her" "this girl" etc., if you get a reaction out of her like "who is that?" "who is she?" then you are golden ;)

girls live their lives jealous as hell, never seen one that wasn't, this should separate attention wh0res from real deal on a pretty consistent basis because if they aren't that into you they won't care

about flaking, some may do it because they are into you more than normal, are nervous or were scared away thinking you were a player
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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You haven't given her enough reasons for why THEY should keep in touch with you.

What do you have to offer? How valuable are you to women?

Why would they need to see you again? and has it been communicated clearly that this is what they'd get without a doubt?

Just ask yourself the same question, you'll have the answer.
 

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bilboteabaggins said:
my classic test for knowing if a girl is really into me, flirt with them for awhile, act aloof/mysterious(I have this down stone cold because it is my personality), blah blah etc. then the next time you are in person with them mention another girls name or say I was doing this with "her" "this girl" etc., if you get a reaction out of her like "who is that?" "who is she?" then you are golden ;)

girls live their lives jealous as hell, never seen one that wasn't, this should separate attention wh0res from real deal on a pretty consistent basis because if they aren't that into you they won't care

about flaking, some may do it because they are into you more than normal, are nervous or were scared away thinking you were a player
Exact same thing I noticed bro. I do that on purpose now, it works greatttt
 

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Allurre said:
You haven't given her enough reasons for why THEY should keep in touch with you.

What do you have to offer? How valuable are you to women?

Why would they need to see you again? and has it been communicated clearly that this is what they'd get without a doubt?

Just ask yourself the same question, you'll have the answer.
This is an awesome post man.

How do I go about giving them reasons to keep in touch with me. How about story telling that DHV towards me?
 
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