Building Your Social Value In A Group That Has Known You For A While

[mastersylar]

Ok. I am in this organization where I am perceived as low status. I am the guy that a lot of the people don't talk to. But I have been in this organization for a while. However, I have been reading a lot of stuff on this forum and other forums and I am in a pick up group. So, I am changing a lot. However, I have always heard that it is almost impossible to change how someone perceives you after the first impression. Another problem this is a religious organization and in my religion it is encouraged that u date only girls that are devout to that religion too. I don't have any problem dating someone outside of my religion, but I would rather date someone who is the same religion as me.

My question is how could I change the way I am perceived as a low status person to a high status person, or should I give up and look outside of the group?

 

[KontrollerX]

Law 25

RE-CREATE YOURSELF

Do not accept the roles that society foists on you. Re-create yourself by forging a new identity, one that commands attention and never bores the audience. Be the master of your own image rather than letting others define it for you. Incorporate dramatic devices into your public gestures and actions--your power will be enhanced and your character will seem larger than life.

 

[PrinceBeavis]

I am SO very in the same boat as you. There should be a subforum within this one for guys who are trying to DJ within the parameters of a religious organization/culture.

Anyways...The truest leaders, are always actually servants. Volunteer for stuff, find what you are good at...come up with ideas for things, and head it up....start, or support a ministry. Get your hands dirty, and respect will follow... With respect, hopefully, come chicks.

 

[beastmaster79]

never try to impress anyone for the sake of impressing. get some chick to serve your **** with a BJ

 

[Jon55]

I am SO very in the same boat as you. There should be a subforum within this one for guys who are trying to DJ within the parameters of a religious organization/culture.

Anyways...The truest leaders, are always actually servants. Volunteer for stuff, find what you are good at...come up with ideas for things, and head it up....start, or support a ministry. Get your hands dirty, and respect will follow... With respect, hopefully, come chicks.

You can add me to that list too. It's a b!tch sometimes because, while I have nothing against sex, I can't stand girls that can't keep their legs closed.

 

[BannedGod]

Law 25

RE-CREATE YOURSELF

Do not accept the roles that society foists on you. Re-create yourself by forging a new identity, one that commands attention and never bores the audience. Be the master of your own image rather than letting others define it for you. Incorporate dramatic devices into your public gestures and actions--your power will be enhanced and your character will seem larger than life.

What are those law that you speak of?

 

[KontrollerX]

Oh its a law from the book 48 Laws of Power.

I recommend it to anyone.

Tons of useful info in it.

 

[BlackJackal]

What are those law that you speak of?

It's quoted from the book 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene.

 

[lYlasTer]

Easy. Stop doing things that make you low status, and start doing things that make you high status.

The best thing to do is to date a "high status" girl. If they see you with a high quality girl, they'll take a 2nd look at you. Also try to be more alpha, if they don't know what to do then take charge and suggest something.

 

[jocca]

It's quoted from the book 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene.

it is a great book I've been reading it myself. To the original question in either case you should just branch out a little more in the group, become the type of person people can depend on and who look to; so a leader of soughts. come out of your shell a bit more and become more exspresive. thats all I got unfortunatly

 

[TheHumanist]

48 Laws of Power rocks! Though I have to say almost all the laws can be rewritten very easily in a moral context, but as following law 7 of courting attention, he went for the most amoral tone to raise the most controversy. Either way, it still rocks.

However, while it is correct to don't let others define who you want to be, I have to say that (from my experience, feel free to debunk me, infact I sort of hope you could) that sometimes, when a group made up their mind about you, it is hard to change it. While you should try to fight back and define yourself, somtimes, the best way is to just walk away.

 

[mastersylar]

I think that really it is best to get out of that circle and just come occasionally b/c there are always going to be people that don't get into the clicks. also I am thinking about going to other chapters as long as it isn't a very long drive 4 me.

 

[PrinceBeavis]

Going to other chapters is great, because it will expose you to more women.
However, every new place you go to, you will still tend to be somewhat low-status, as you will first be a guest, then an unproven member...if even a member at all.

Eventually, you are going to have to commit to earning a new status. A higher status is always possible. You have to work and position yourself as a go-to guy.

I have a whole lot of respect from a whole lot of people, though I'm really just a long-hair metalhead. That's because I've earned that respect with a lot of work...through proving myself solid, as a person people can go to, and depend on...within the range of whatever it is I do.

Right now, there is a girl I am interested in. She has another guy interested in her. The other guy has NO respect, or credit from the community. My reputation rules, his sucks. I have selflessly given of myself for years--he's a selfish, manipulative, piece of crap. This gives me great confidence. There are a lot of people supporting me...that is because I have proven myself over the long-haul.

 

[backbreaker]

anyone who attempts to give anyone else on this forum adivce and have not read the 48 laws of power.. the only book on earth I consider a must own.. should be banned and ***** slapped

 

[PrinceBeavis]

anyone who attempts to give anyone else on this forum adivce and have not read the 48 laws of PrinceBeavis.. the only book on earth I consider a must own.. should be banned and ***** slapped

:rock:

 

[mastersylar]

i think it is about time that I read 48 Laws...