Breeders Cup.. I'm going to give you free money

[Suicide]

Sorry, but you should have read his result post. What you just posted is not exactly what BB ended up betting (according to him), so you need to recalculate your math.

 

[cordoncordon]

Lol thats my point. Look, I'm not disputing that he can bet what he wants. Whatever, it's his money. I will say as a person who has been going to the racetrack for 20 years up to 5 nights a week, lets just say someone betting the kind of money BB claims to be betting on each race is.....VERY VERY rare. So if he is even betting that kind of money....well i have my suspicions on that.

All I am saying is it is very very easy to then come back after the races are over, and after he has hit only 1 out of 17 picks, and claim to have "changed" all these bets that all of a sudden now have him winning $70 grand. We all could do that could we not?? This whole THREAD was started by HIM giving us his picks, saying if you all followed them, it was easy money (not that I expect easy money, I am just saying what he said). Well, today 1 out of his 17 picks won, thats a 5% win percentage. And then to come back after the races are over and say "oh forgot about what I said before the races, here is what I REALLLY bet", and to scream at me after i said I followed his picks and lost $500, well that's kind of shady isn't it?

Add in the fact that his two best bets, the horses he was putting the most money on, Smarty Deb and Hysterical Lady, both lost, and well...you get my point.

I'm telling you guys. This is the same guy who a few weeks ago in another thread showed a pic of this girl he had dated in the past, a hot girl i might add. Come to find out someone recognized her as a porn star, so of course he never dated the girl, and he later edited the post.

My point being, don't believe everything you read on an internet chat forum. For all we know BB is a 70 year old white grandmother living in North Dakota .

 

[Nighthawk]

I'm telling you guys. This is the same guy who a few weeks ago in another thread showed a pic of this girl he had dated in the past, a hot girl i might add. Come to find out someone recognized her as a porn star, so of course he never dated the girl, and he later edited the post.

I remember that too. Look, I haven't read the whole thread, but if backbreaker gave you 14 pics and only one came in, and because of that anyone lost money, he owes everyone an apology.

 

[cordoncordon]

Hey Nighthawk . No its all good he doesn't owe me an apology for losing picks, I mean i'm a grown man who has made thousands of bets in my lifetime, so I know the risks associated with wagering, and thats why they call it gambling right ? I'm just a little put off by his reaction to me after the races were over and his claims of glory.

Of course, i told my brother who was with me today at the track that no matter how bad BB did today, he was going to come on this forum and say he made a killing. So it really isn't a surprise.

 

[Nighthawk]

If it was you, would you apologise?

 

[Celadus]

Your post immediately after his results was skeptical. He didn't get angry over nothing. Even if you didn't mean anything by it, it came across that way.

He's either who he says he is or he's not. Doesn't really matter either way.

 

[backbreaker]

am saying is it is very very easy to then come back after the races are over, and after he has hit only 1 out of 14 picks

there are only 11 BC races.. how can I go 1 for 14? That's not possible.

I went 3 for 11 for the record.

Corinthian, Laulhood and Kip Deville. I missed with Gio Ponti, Dream Rush, and the rest that fluttered today

and and far as comign back on here "changing picks".. why not just look at the times that everything was posted? The only thing I changed was wen I woke up this morning before heading off and noticed I gave a guy Street Sense when I ment to give him George Washington, and that was at 9:30am..a bout 6 hours before the race


What I don't understand is everything I bet, I told you i was going to bet, it's here in black and white (or red or green)...

and even if you took out kip deville, the laulhood pick was enough to come home with a profit.

No, what happened is you either didn't bother to look here late last night, or this morning, went ot the track, came home and saw this and was peeved that you lost money on a 13 to one shot that you now think I doctored.

go back and look at st_99's post 84 in this thread and look at the time and what he is quoting. it speaks for itself. Doctored my ass. you just didnt' bothered to take a look this morning

really.. pathetic.

this is probalby the last post I make here. I thought i was helping people, intoducing people to a new game.. all it is, is a witch hunt. my GF is asking me why am I so peeved and I had a good day, this place is why. it's spiteful, no one wants to do **** with themselves but jackoff and hate on other people.. it's a reason I dont like to put how much Im going to bet, this i sthe reason why.

I come here to give advice to people who ask for it, not to defend myself for no reason whatsoever.

there is nothing TO argue, there was a guy who even called my win here in a post on laulhood Before I got back from the track, how in the world could I have doctored it?

agian.. pitiful. no love. no self improvement.. everyting here is because I'm black or because I'm white or because I'm short or because I"m not this or that. I'm here wanting, begging to help anyone who wants it, and spite. vengengefulness. hatered. I don't need it.

I have a beatiful GF who cares about me, I have my health, I'm doing good for myself, I'm about to be a daddy.

I always felt I owe alot ot this site, and I do. But that doesn't mean I have to put up with this type of crap.

I have enough going on, and I guess it's bittersweet. this site has taken it's course for itself and for me.

Good luck and godspeed to all

 

[cordoncordon]

Goodbye.

(he'll be back in a day, this is the 10000th time he's said this, usually about once a month he'll do this)

Perhaps this will teach you to keep your cool from now on. I really don't know how you go through life being so quick tempered and angry all of the time. If you can constantly get this angry on the internet, I can only imagine what you must be like in real life.

And btw, we get it. You have a gf. It's really not necessary to somehow include that fact in EVERY post that you make.

Best of luck!!

 

[cordoncordon]

Here are your 14 picks, your last and final picks from last night, made at 12:19 last night in post #72. Actually you had three more losing picks because your pick 3, pick 4, and pick 6's all lost as well, so you were really 1 for 17. But i won't hold that against you because i know how difficult those are to hit. Your two best bets though, surprising you couldn't hit either one of these. There is a reason they are called best bets. Ya know, locks of the millenium? Because they are supposed to win in hand and in command. Your's obviously didn't....Yet you made $70 k. Congrats!!!!

Again, these are your exact picks and comments to go along with them taken straight from your last picking post of last night.........


Race 1: Slew's Tizzy to win if drifts upwards of 6 to 1-LOST-1st lost pick
Daily Double with Slews Tizzy / Silver Knockers CocoBelle in 2nd race-LOST-2nd lost pick


Race 4: Smarty Deb to win. Putting to much money on her to mess around with anything else-LOST-3rd lost pick

Race 5: Wicked Style to win assuming stays above 7 to 1-LOST-4th lost pick
Exacta with Wicked Style on top/Pryo or Z Humor on the bottom-LOST-5th lost pick
Trifecta With Wicked Style on top/ Pryo or Z humor 2nd o/ Pyro, Z humor, War Pass and Overextended in 3rd (trying to hit a lick)-LOST-6th lost pick

Race 6: Lahudood to win (2 win tickets)-WON-1rst winning pick
(I like honey ryder to win as well but not at the odds she is going to bring)

Race 7: Kelly's Landing to win-LOST-7th lost pick
Superfecta withh kelly's Landing/Benny the Bull/Midnight Lute/ Greg's Gold-LOST-8th lost pick

Race 9:Hystericalady-LOST-9th lost pick
Exacta with Hystericalady/Balance on the bottom-LOST-10th lost pick
Trifecta with Hystericalady/Balance 2nd/Lear's Princess 3rd-LOST-11th lost pick

Race 10: (Shamdinan)-LOST-12th lost pick

Race 11: Tiago to win-LOST-13th lost pick

Pick 3: 14th lost pick

Race 4: (Smarty Deb)
Race 5: (Wicked Style)
Race 6: (Honey Ryder)(All My loving) (Lahudood)

Pick 4 15th lost pick

Race 8Excellent Art )
Race 9: (Hystericalady)
Race 10: (Dylan Thomas )
Race 11: (Tiago) (Curlin) (George Washington)

Pick 6 16th lost pick

Race 6: (All My Loving)(All My Loving)(Nashoba's Key) (Nashoba's Key)(Lahudood)

Race 7: (Kelly's Landing) (Commentator) (Midnight Lute) (Greg's Gold)

Race 8: (Excellent Art )

Race 9: (Hystericalady)

Race 10: (Dylan thomas) (Shamdinan)

Race 11: (George Washington (Curlin) (Tiago)

 

[Last Man Standing]

BB, is this your girl? It is Cordoncordon's post number 14 - his second link! See this.. http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1257717#post1257717

 

[cordoncordon]

That would be mine LMS . Been dating for three years now.

As I recall BB says he is dating a brunette?

 

[Last Man Standing]

That would be mine LMS . Been dating for three years now.

As I recall BB says he is dating a brunette?

What? I have the wrong girl? BB - where is your girl? I envisioned the wrong white woman for so long!!

 

[cordoncordon]

LOL LMS. What exactly have you been "envisioning"?

 

[ketostix]

I'm not faulting BB or really questioning if he made a decent profit on his picks. But the only wager I was told about that could made me anything was Lahudood. That came late and had I even bet $4 or more on Lahudood I would've broken even or made a profit. But I didn't have really any wiggle room to bet on that because I was trying to follow BB's bets and to follow every pick I would've had to readjust my amounts across the board.. I'm not blaming backbreaker or thinking he was obligated to keep anyone updated. I'm just saying I was trying to get my feet wet in horse racing and do the best I knew how to wager and I asked but didn't really get that good of guidance to place my bets. It would've been really hard for anyone to follow the advice and gotten Lahudood in for a win. That's the only way a person could've made anything following the advice.

 

[Quiksilver]

Some of you guys have issues...

For the record, backbreaker is a jerkoff sometimes,

but if you all are gonna jump on him for "being wrong" after taking the time to write all that out, being PROACTIVE, then you should be burned at the stake.



p.s. and it was one set of events, not exactly a great cross-section of his skill.

And, don't mind the haters, they're a part of living a risky life. There will always be naysayers and people ready to bring you down. Just keep chuggin, and live your life to a different beat than them. Even at my age, I've found that there are clearly people who try, fail, and keep trying, and then there are those who sit on the sidelines and laugh at people's attempts.. Pick your team.

 

[cordoncordon]

Quick, no doubt BB has issues, and again, I AM NOT FAULTING HIM FOR LOSING PICKS. Gambling is risky, obviously. I've made thousands upon thousands of bets in my life on the horses. Won some, lost more. No matter who makes the picks, I still have to go to the windows and plop down the money. 100% my responsibility. And I actually appreciated his picks and the time and effort he took analyzing them all. Very well done.

All I am responding to is:
1) His initial response to me after I wrote that I followed his picks and lost $500, in which I never blamed him. I just wrote what happened.
2) His rather ludicrous insistence that he made 5 figures yesterday just to make himself appear bigger and better, something he has done on here before. As a gambler myself, I can tell you with 99% certainty that if he bet yesterday like he said he was going to going into it, he took a major bath.

 

[Suicide]

Who cares?

I know a lot about TB racing and I will tell you that BB knows his stuff. What else matters? If you guys insist on sending him to task because you believe he's misrepresenting himself, you're wasting your time. His math adds up. And although there's no way to substantiate that BB actually made the bets that he did, I can assure you that it is very common for a good handicapper to change their bets at the last second after noticing something about a particular horse in the paddock or sensing a track bias or changing track condition. I changed my picks several times yesterday.

If you are looking for easy money, horse racing isn't your game. It takes a lot of work to consistently make a profit. I do it, but I attribute most of it to dumb luck and a little bit of skill. BB is much better versed in the particulars of the ponies than I am, and I wouldn't be surprised if he actually made the profits that he claims.

He was trying to help you guys out; and he made more of an effort than most (including myself) would. So give the guy a break.

 

[cordoncordon]

Well when he is back in a day or two, and we know you will be BB, he can tell us all about his picks for next week, unless something else pisses him off, which is highly probable.

 

[Nighthawk]

Okay I read the all the thread. To be clear, I didn't bet a thing, and I have no previous loyalty or animosity towards anyone in this thread. Just calling it as I see it.

The title of this thread is 'I'm going to give you free money.' Of course a tip isn't a promise, no one put a gun to anyone's head, and Backbreaker put a lot of work into this thread, but correct me if I'm wrong - if you took BBs advice you lost.

A stand-up guy would at least say sorry. Hey guys I blew it this time. Instead BBs posts show more compassion for the horses that lost than the members of this site who lost money on his tips, and still he has time to crow about the money he supposedly made from switching bets.

Cordoncordon, who apparently lost $500 following the picks exactly, respectfully raised some doubts about his claims, and BB went off the deep end, hurling insults and threatening physical violence.

I can't claim to understand the betting world, it has no appeal to me, but I know who is being an ass in this thread and who is or isn't being a 'hater.'

 

[cordoncordon]

Hi nighthawk . Well for whatever reason BB seems to take great offense whenever anyone dares question him, especially anything regarding his gf or horses. He somehow seems to mention the startling fact that he has a gf in just about every post he writes. We get it BB, You have a gf. She is hot. She works with horses. You travel the world together. She's the greatest. And so are you.

And for the record, I never called his gf a slut. I merely was wondering about the fact that he was having a child, out of wedlock, with a girl of another race he knew all of a few months who has done coke before and even caused BB to write a post about it, and it seemed as though everyone was all about how great it was. I was thinking that if it had been another member who posted that scenario, he would have been vilified and called an idiot for doing the exact same thing.

I have often wondered why BB is given such reverence on here, considering on a monthly basis he claims to be leaving for good and calls the so suave site and most of its members pieces of ****. Is it because he claims to be wealthy? Claims to gets girls? A bully? I don't know. I do know that time and time again he has proven to be an azz on here, judgmental, angry, overly critical, and intolerant of everyone else views except his own.