"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Breakthrough: Experimented with direct game

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And I couldn't believe my dating success doubled.

Are women more aware to "negs" and ****y/funny now?

I used to only tease, give backhanded compliments to achieve any luck with women. As of this past weekend I decided to just be direct but not needy/desperate.

First tried this on dating sites. Just flat out gave a physical (what might be considered generic) compliment followed by a general question, and I've had more number exchanges than ever. Even women I've previously messaged who flat out told me they weren't interested.

Another benefit, is I feel less pressure to keep up my wit or playfulness, I can easily be more aloof. Less work it's seeming like.

So what gives? Was I just better at being direct and only now realized it or could women be more sensitive to the routines guys use since the info is pretty much available with a quick Google search
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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routines are like sales pitches.

the only really work when the buyer is already sold on the product

you will impress a woman more by being direct, which shows you are decisive, in control then by beating around the bush.

When I was single and i was still approaching chicks, I noted that about.. at least half, of my pick ups would start off with her saying no or not saying "yes" right off the bat. Even if she showed interest in me. it's just a default reaction almost. My wife, even though she was eyeing me to the point where I approached her, told me no.

When you are direct, you get the no out of the way and then "game" starts. When you are lollygagging around and pretending to be ****y / funny and all that ****, you are making the "no" the entire showdown.

tell me no, but at the same time be impressed that i went after what i wanted, and that i am decisive. if she is attracted to you at all these are traits she's going to admire. Then tell if it's a hard no or a soft no. sometimes no really means no. sometimes it means I don't know, maybe. But you got to get to the no first to figure all that out and then work off that.
 

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More than anything else, women want to be desired. The direct approach and (if you're online) a compliment about her desirability as a woman expresses that.

No magic required.
 

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Tictac said:
More than anything else, women want to be desired. The direct approach and (if you're online) a compliment about her desirability as a woman expresses that.

No magic required.
Which makes sense but most threads on here are about how to do the opposite with negs etc.

I used to act the way I'm going about it now way before I discovered this forum and community. I remember it worked well but abandoned it because everyone said to use other techniques.

Though I'm not dismissing them, I believe they help a guy give up the needy/desperate undertone when going direct. I'm well aware of that now. I can see how being direct can come off creepy.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Game(c/F, aloofness, neg, etc) is most important for the hottest women, especially women out of your league. If you are close to the same SMV as the girl then direct is fine.
Well as I said, women who earlier blatantly said they weren't interested were more willing to exchange numbers this time when I was more direct. These women are pretty good looking.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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