"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Breaking the Front - Muslim women

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For me, game goes along way than just the ordinary. I'm trying to meet all aspects of it. Has anybody here, consider themselfs breaking down a Muslim womans front? There are many out there who aren't full pledged Muslims, but will use it as a barrier when the time is right.

Without getting into any religious politics, anybody here gotten to the 3rd base with these women. I was shocked to find out this Arab/ Egyptian girl was MUSLIM recently and she doesn't drink, but smokes, wears revealing clothes, doesn't cover her hair and basically wouldn't think she would be a Muslim.

Is there any point me continuing this route?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Keep in mind, just like any other religion, there are the fanatics and the fundamentalists, and then there are the moderates and liberals. She's probably just a moderate Muslim who doesn't follow the customs as closely.
 

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Capodeciña said:
For me, game goes along way than just the ordinary. I'm trying to meet all aspects of it. Has anybody here, consider themselfs breaking down a Muslim womans front? There are many out there who aren't full pledged Muslims, but will use it as a barrier when the time is right.

Without getting into any religious politics, anybody here gotten to the 3rd base with these women. I was shocked to find out this Arab/ Egyptian girl was MUSLIM recently and she doesn't drink, but smokes, wears revealing clothes, doesn't cover her hair and basically wouldn't think she would be a Muslim.

Is there any point me continuing this route?
In all honesty, you probably have a slim chance.

I'll explain to you as I come from India and I know the Muslim culture pretty well.

Basically, modern day Muslims will smoke, wear revealing clothes, do Ramadan, etc. but there are a few things that they will absolutely not do. They follow the Qur'an literally and so things like smoking, or wearing "revealing" clothes are not strictly forbidden, and are ambiguous topics. Hell, smoking is seen as Arabs have been smoking since Islam was created and they smoke a lot of Hookah.

HOWEVER, when it comes to eating PORK, having premarital SEX, and DRINKING, a Muslim girl will not do any of that.

Because she's Egyptian/Arab, their cultures value female chastity and also because females can't "get away" with having sex like men can (because of the hymen), they will NOT have sex. Period. It is because they are raised to marry a fellow Muslim (and Islam/Muslim women are REQUIRED to marry fellow Muslims and can't marry any other religion), and if she doesn't, she would become a social pariah in her own family and her community. You may think I am exaggerating but this is truth.

So basically, the whole thing is --- if she says she's Muslim --- nothing's going to happen really, which seems to be the case given the description you gave. If she's a superliberal/cultural Muslim, then she's not really Muslim because she doesn't follow the Qur'an in which case your goal would no longer work.

Now personally, I never date those types of girls, though I'll still flirt and whatnot while being ****y/funny/etc., but I'm not gonna push myself on religiously centered women. I remember this one girl that I dated who I could have had, but I know that she probably would have ended up psychologically ****ed up or as worse as committing suicide or honor killings --- not that that's the norm of course, but with those types of girls, you don't really want to break them because you could possibly ruin her life.



Peace,
Mister T
 

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Mister T said:
In all honesty, you probably have a slim chance.

I'll explain to you as I come from India and I know the Muslim culture pretty well.

Basically, modern day Muslims will smoke, wear revealing clothes, do Ramadan, etc. but there are a few things that they will absolutely not do. They follow the Qur'an literally and so things like smoking, or wearing "revealing" clothes are not strictly forbidden, and are ambiguous topics. Hell, smoking is seen as Arabs have been smoking since Islam was created and they smoke a lot of Hookah.

HOWEVER, when it comes to eating PORK, having premarital SEX, and DRINKING, a Muslim girl will not do any of that.

Because she's Egyptian/Arab, their cultures value female chastity and also because females can't "get away" with having sex like men can (because of the hymen), they will NOT have sex. Period. It is because they are raised to marry a fellow Muslim (and Islam/Muslim women are REQUIRED to marry fellow Muslims and can't marry any other religion), and if she doesn't, she would become a social pariah in her own family and her community. You may think I am exaggerating but this is truth.

So basically, the whole thing is --- if she says she's Muslim --- nothing's going to happen really, which seems to be the case given the description you gave. If she's a superliberal/cultural Muslim, then she's not really Muslim because she doesn't follow the Qur'an in which case your goal would no longer work.

Now personally, I never date those types of girls, though I'll still flirt and whatnot while being ****y/funny/etc., but I'm not gonna push myself on religiously centered women. I remember this one girl that I dated who I could have had, but I know that she probably would have ended up psychologically ****ed up or as worse as committing suicide or honor killings --- not that that's the norm of course, but with those types of girls, you don't really want to break them because you could possibly ruin her life.



Peace,
Mister T
Brilliant read.

Well it's hard to figure out what route to take since she always insinuates sexual inuendos. Funnily enough it's everything except INTER COURSE or PENETRATION and you know what, I don't mind that. It's not considered a platonic relationship if it still carries sexual encounters does it? I mean, there is other stuff than stuffing you're johnson in her lady garden, right? :crackup:

She consistantly tries to test me (In my opinion) by saying she knows how SEX FEELS, jokes and talks about my cocck, everything, then says but NOT BEFORE MARRIAGE as a sidejoke. She says she wants to play naked kiss-chase, wrestle etc etc, passionate kissing and sucking, the HALF shabang! Maybe I can do what Will Smith did in one of his Fresh Prince episodes, and marry her - Then, pump and dump as Rollo would say.
 

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Maybe I can do what Will Smith did in one of his Fresh Prince episodes, and marry her - Then, pump and dump as Rollo would say.
this is getting quite common in Iran, they get around the no pre marital sex by getting married for like a week or two...
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I once asked a Muslim chick if she was allowed to fvck during Ramadan. True story.

Don't remember what happened but I don't think I got laid


Muslim chicks fvck -especially teen ones in the US who were born here, just offer her some sausage, say it's pork, give her a shot, if those two are a go you know what you gotta do
 

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Most religion is bull**** because people pick and choose what rules they want or do not want to follow. This is the same for Christianity and Islam.

There was a girl I was with recently who was a Muslim, though in the end we didn't go all the way (not due to religious beliefs). I know she has slept with guys before though and isn't married, so there is one example.

Also, a female friend of mine was chasing this Muslim guy very recently and he told her he wouldn't have sex before marriage. She just wanted sex and nothing else, goes without saying she got it later the same night.

I only mention these because they both happened in the last 2 months or so. If you want to be with a Muslim girl, its no more difficult than being with a Christian girl.

I'd advise avoiding any religious girls, period. Not worth the hassle.
 

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I would personally take that as strong IOI's meaning she really wants to ****. Is there anything for you to lose?

**** religion. It's totally useless and bull**** for the most part.
 

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I was referring to this by the way

Brilliant read.

Well it's hard to figure out what route to take since she always insinuates sexual inuendos. Funnily enough it's everything except INTER COURSE or PENETRATION and you know what, I don't mind that. It's not considered a platonic relationship if it still carries sexual encounters does it? I mean, there is other stuff than stuffing you're johnson in her lady garden, right?

She consistantly tries to test me (In my opinion) by saying she knows how SEX FEELS, jokes and talks about my cocck, everything, then says but NOT BEFORE MARRIAGE as a sidejoke. She says she wants to play naked kiss-chase, wrestle etc etc, passionate kissing and sucking, the HALF shabang! Maybe I can do what Will Smith did in one of his Fresh Prince episodes, and marry her - Then, pump and dump as Rollo would say.
 

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did the world run out of women?

not to be prejudice, I'm an arab I can't hate myself anyway :p . I almost never felt myself when faced with a woman wearing a veil, it feels weird for me

anyway it is going to depend on the woman in question, and on her family and how traditional they are .

if she is a woman that happens to be from a Muslim family, but she is non religious, and she does not wear a veil, then you pretty much have no problem, religion after all is a state of mind not a genetic disease.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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