"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Bravo's "The Millionaire Matchmaker"
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Maximummax
Senior Don Juan
Its pretty much predictable and routine, Every chick tries to throw herself at the guy who is rich and millionaire, so that he can get his money. I see some of the chicks same time.
share your knowledge if you learned something from that show
I don't know man, it's not like you're learning X, Y, and Z from this show that you can quantify and then list off, you're just seeing how humans relate to one another in a one-on-one mating context. How often do you get to see that?
If you didn't get anything from it, then best to avoid it it. I find them fascinating. Any experience you can have with women, even if it's just watching them interact with men in a dating context on a show, is good IMHO.
TopGun2000
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
The woman host is very intuitive about people. I wouldn't take her advice, of course, because I'm not looking to go chumpstyle and get some nag of a wife; but if you were, she'd probably be a good choice as matchmaker. I'm totally against her idea of "chivalry" and "no sex before monogamy," and I would never have her or anyone like her set me up, but it's still interesting to watch how these people interact, both in their selection-phases and then in the outcomes that those choices bring about.
Basically they both treat each other like sh!t. The millionaires (both men and women) are controlling, narcissistic a-holes. And the gold-diggers are kiss-asses but who demand money and gifts for their ass-kissing.
One scene showed a "mini-date" where the millionaire guy was being the typical a-hole and the chick was rolling her eyes at him. Both had nothing but negative things to say about the other to the camera. But then he chose her for the main date and she said yes.
It was hilarious. But even more hilarious was that they had a crappy date and didn't get along at all and he made awkward passes at her that she rebuffed with disdain. And then at the end of the show the text on the screen said they were still dating!
What a strange life. To keep someone around that you utterly despise but who has a quality (looks or money) that you want so much you have no other choice. Totally unlike my life and incredibly interesting to me.
DrPhysique
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I think guys your age should be tied down and forced to watch all 5 seasons so they learn how NOT to live their lives and how NOT to relate to women.DrPhysique said:
Seriously, if I had a male kid I'd force him to watch it. It's awesome in a train-wrecky sort of way.
http://www.nickypapers.com/2011/01/millionaire-matchmaker-fake-millionaires-exposed/
If you had millions you would know that finding broads was the least of your worries. Regardless of what country you are in or how ugly or old you are. Real millionaires downplay their wealth for tax reasons.
nismo-4
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A millionaire can act AFC and STILL get girls, yes. But when she gets wet for that handsome male model, don't be surprised when she leaves with half to use with him!
@Topgun: Women don't know what the f**k they want. Women giving advice is often times totally wrong.
@The Crack: If you lined up 10 men in a line and told a hot blonde to pick out the millionaire, she wouldn't know. If I were a millionaire, I'd be conservative and get a Honda/ Toyota as a main car, and have a Benz as a show off car.
@Zarky: How many guys do you think railed that host?
@ Jroc: Totally agree.
AFAIC, if you're rich, you won't have trouble with women. If you do, you're retarded.
Case closed.
Anyway, another thing I noticed is that when you take women out for dinner, shows, etc. etc. etc. and put a lot of work into it, you automatically tend to over-value the woman.
In fact, this seems to be a calculated thing. That is, the host (who is a woman) attempts to make men put a great deal of work into planning and paying for the first date. So all this effort expended on the date gets transferred to the woman and I believe it cannot help but raise her value in the man's eyes.
To me, traditional marriage is the ultimate over-valuation of the woman. If you're for some reason looking to go down that path, you should start out by spending a great deal of effort on the most minute date plans, and in the end even the fugliest, b!tchiest woman will eventually seem like a radiant beauty in your eyes.
What I learned was that effort expended on a thing can raise the value of a person who is associated with that thing, even if the person has very low value to begin with. Not exactly rocket science but I've never thought of it in that way before.
As Ben Franklin, I think it was, said, "If you want someone to like you, ask him to help you." This rings true again here.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
His body language toward her is priceless, because he's totally not into her. It would be wise for any guy to watch in slow motion his body language while he's with her. If you can use that body language when you're dealing with hot chicks... WOW you will be unstoppable.
oneboy21
Senior Don Juan
when ever an women comes for match making she never leaves happy, either patti fights with her or something happens which don't get along much.
If these people are at all representative of the average guy out there, then any guy who studies seduction for 15 minutes will have more game than 99% of everyone else. Amazing.
EDIT: Here's something else. I have never seen so many middle-class white people high-fiving each other in my life. I don't know if the producers tell them to or what. It looks f*cking ridiculous. White people suck at high fiving, we look like we're trying to swat at a fly. So white people: no high-fiving.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.