Here's the deal: I get a lot of action, so I don't mess with women who have boyfriends/husbands. But then again, I am looking for quality rather than quantity, and most quality women of my age are not on the market. Should I change my policy?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Boyfriends
- Thread starter The Shoe
- Start date
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Gro0ver
Senior Don Juan
No.
It sounds like you're looking for a quality girl who would make a good stable girlfriend (please correct me if i'm wrong). If a girl cheats on her boyfriend/husband with you, how could you then trust her?
It sounds like you're looking for a quality girl who would make a good stable girlfriend (please correct me if i'm wrong). If a girl cheats on her boyfriend/husband with you, how could you then trust her?
True and this is one reason why I havd avoided such situations in the past. But then again, some of the most stable relationships I know were ones that were plucked from disasterous relationships. I suppose if one did decide to pursue, infidelity and heartbreak are an increased risk.Gro0ver said:No.
It sounds like you're looking for a quality girl who would make a good stable girlfriend (please correct me if i'm wrong). If a girl cheats on her boyfriend/husband with you, how could you then trust her?
All is fair.
scrouds
Master Don Juan
I try not to speak too much about quality, because what men define as quality in women isn't always "static". Her behavior, honor as we would call it, will change depending on the situation and the man and what hormones her body is releasing that week.
That being said, I have no problem going after "taken" women. We have an innate need to have our women be loyal to us. Its a biological imperative designed to try and keep our offspring to ours and not another man's seed. Because of that, I don't think a woman's branch swinging should be considered a bad mark upon a woman.
Rather it is up to the man to dominate the mind and emotions of this target(s), impose your will and set for her boundaries that she shall only cross at her peril. Because of that, I see a "quality" woman is one that will fully accept your leadership and your rules.
I reject the premise of "once a cheater always a cheater" for women. I think cheating depends on the man, the relationship, and other external conditions including the friends she keeps, society's rules and enviroment, and how slutty she is.
Slutty is different then cheating. She could be a raging slut that doesn't get into relationships. She's still not good to date.
She can be a branch swinger. Maybe she cheats for a short period between branches, but usually she ends the old relationship shortly.
Or she can be following the biological imperative of both finding a provider and alpha seed. If she finds both in one person, will she cheat on that person?
That being said, I have no problem going after "taken" women. We have an innate need to have our women be loyal to us. Its a biological imperative designed to try and keep our offspring to ours and not another man's seed. Because of that, I don't think a woman's branch swinging should be considered a bad mark upon a woman.
Rather it is up to the man to dominate the mind and emotions of this target(s), impose your will and set for her boundaries that she shall only cross at her peril. Because of that, I see a "quality" woman is one that will fully accept your leadership and your rules.
I reject the premise of "once a cheater always a cheater" for women. I think cheating depends on the man, the relationship, and other external conditions including the friends she keeps, society's rules and enviroment, and how slutty she is.
Slutty is different then cheating. She could be a raging slut that doesn't get into relationships. She's still not good to date.
She can be a branch swinger. Maybe she cheats for a short period between branches, but usually she ends the old relationship shortly.
Or she can be following the biological imperative of both finding a provider and alpha seed. If she finds both in one person, will she cheat on that person?
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Banned
Scrouds knows his sh!t, couldn't have said it better.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
My personal code is to be against cheating and I won't do it when I'm in a committed relationship after having made that mistake in a prior marriage. With that said, I have gone after women before who were married/in a relationship and swore that off as well, but just bagged a very sexually aggressive girl who has a boyfriend. I guess it depends on the situation.