"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Boyfriend Destroying

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I came across this article on boyfriend destroyers by Tyler Durden, I thought it was interesting. Seems like it comes from a pretty damn cynical place, but as Tyler says, if the relationship is solid, this won't work. Basically it revolves around the idea of making the guy look weak, insecure, and undeserving, no matter what info about him that she tells you. Making him look like an AFC supposedly kills her sexual desire for him.

http://www.seductionbase.com/seduction/cat/In_the_Middle/BoyFriend_Destroyer/128.html
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Curious that I got a rep for posting this, but haven't gotten any replies. I will bump it once to give it another chance, since there is some very interesting info on here, even if it is evil as all fvck.

I'm not fond of links to posted articles either, but this is definitely worth a read, even if it's just to see how low a PUA can sink to damage his fellow man just so he can get his d!ck wet.
 

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I had to read a few times to believe this post was from you, but your second message made clear you are against this. I think it may be a useful read ( I havent read) for protecting ourselves against this kind of thing.

Cooperating with such an unethical behavior as cheating, even with the argument that she would have done it with another guy, is for very very low people...

I still do believe that PUAs haven't discovered anything that a guy who socializes regularly doesn´t already know. PUA concepts are common sense from the most part. The reality is just this, and that's why I don't put much emphasis on what is said in this forum, most PUAs Don juans, are introverts and not very out going, many are bitter towards society and wouldn't mind engaging in such behavior because they "hate" everyone. Some of the discussions I´ve seen online in these environments, are just low.

I would never be worried that a nerd would read information like that, still tyler is smart enough to understand the theory..

PUA is good for making awkward guys even more awkward and pathetic, telling them to peackoking" or acting alpha that they will read as being rude, is great for making them even more despicable to women
 

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JdelaSilviera said:
...PUA is good for making awkward guys even more awkward and pathetic, telling them to peackoking" or acting alpha that they will read as being rude...
That's because most guys who are introduced to PUA are ALREADY coming from a bad place. If they didn't socialise and get any p*ssy they're going to be needy which means they're going to look to women for validation, which ultimately means they're going to put them on a pedestal. Couple this with the fact when they start looking at PUA advice and read (or hear) stuff like "girls hate this" and "you must do this and don't do that"...it just makes things worse.

The reality is women ain't Sh*t and no man should ever compromise their integrity for them.
 

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JdelaSilviera said:
I had to read a few times to believe this post was from you, but your second message made clear you are against this.
I'm not necessarily entirely against it. I think it depends on the situation. If the guy is just a placeholder and you really want the girl, I think it could be justified. "Boyfriend" is not really a title that suggests high level commitment.

However, I do think it is kind of sh!tty to hurt some random guy if you just want a quick lay. Okay, it's very sh!tty. I think even Tyler comes off as being just slightly uncomfortable with it, even if he's still willing to do it. PUAs justify this sort of thing by saying "The guy is an AFC anyway, if I don't fvck her some other dude will. Besides, I'm doing the guy a favor by showing him what a slvt the girl is and what a pvssy he is. This will be the wakeup call he needs to quit being an AFC and become a PUA himself".

In the scenario Tyler talks about, it sounds like the girl has already agreed to go to coffee with him, and he takes that opportunity to sabotage the relationship. If the girl was true to her guy, she wouldn't have agreed to coffee with some dude in the first place. This is what happens when girls go out with male "friends".

JdelaSilviera said:
I still do believe that PUAs haven't discovered anything that a guy who socializes regularly doesn´t already know. PUA concepts are common sense from the most part.
Most of it is knowledge passed down from other people's experiences. A lot of it existed way back when I was a teen in the form of quick little sayings.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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lol, bar and restaurant owners are pros doing sh*t like that. Yes you are right, that's why sometimes I think all the flaking, ******ng and low attitudes many women have, is well deserved to a great majority of men.

We do act sometimes, like other people live´s don't matter, when you humiliate a guy you know in front of her girlfriend, just to show how witty you can be and to try gain points with, you are affecting someone else and sometimes deeply. Some people are strong and others are not, that's why I go for the safe side always.

Even when a guy tries to play me, sometimes a simple smirk can make him look ridiculous and end immediately the situation.

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Guys do this all of the time, I have had to deflect many attempts at guys trying to make you look lame in front of your girl. You get good at it with practice.

I had one pool bar owner try to tool me for five minutes before I said "Is this where your pathetic life has led you? Owner of a pool bar trying to look macho in front of 20 year old girls?"

Another time I had a guy start patting my back when I asked a question, trying to make me look like an idiot for not knowing the answer.

Yet another time, I did a high five to a friend in a bar, and this guy who was eyeing my gf began doing high-fives in a sarcastic exaggerated manner for the rest of the night.

Now, some are obvious and some are subtle, but in the end you need the strength, confidence and dominance to put them down and do it hard.
 

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Even if I really want the girl I just find it immoral, I hate when that is being done to me. And that's why I try to stay emotionally distant from girls with boyfriends. If I were competing with another guy previously from they getting together, and if there were some dirty tactics by him, I might consider.. but all the confusion this brings is just not worthy ones time.

Yes, most is really common knowledge. That´s why it's almost a crime to charge what they do in their seminars. I would never pay for something like that. This can also have an effect on guys, creating a problem that it really is not there. Most of these guys just need to meet more people.... Cold approach can be very difficult even for great looking guys, and most guys who fvck a lot, at least from my social network which is reasonably large, know lots and lots of people..


zekko said:
I'm not necessarily entirely against it. I think it depends on the situation. If the guy is just a placeholder and you really want the girl, I think it could be justified. "Boyfriend" is not really a title that suggests high level commitment.

However, I do think it is kind of sh!tty to hurt some random guy if you just want a quick lay. Okay, it's very sh!tty. I think even Tyler comes off as being just slightly uncomfortable with it, even if he's still willing to do it. PUAs justify this sort of thing by saying "The guy is an AFC anyway, if I don't fvck her some other dude will. Besides, I'm doing the guy a favor by showing him what a slvt the girl is and what a pvssy he is. This will be the wakeup call he needs to quit being an AFC and become a PUA himself".

In the scenario Tyler talks about, it sounds like the girl has already agreed to go to coffee with him, and he takes that opportunity to sabotage the relationship. If the girl was true to her guy, she wouldn't have agreed to coffee with some dude in the first place. This is what happens when girls go out with male "friends".


Most of it is knowledge passed down from other people's experiences. A lot of it existed way back when I was a teen in the form of quick little sayings.
 

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holy ****..... i hate to say this but I have done 80% of this article without even knowing what I was doing. It was to a girl with BF and it for sure worked. I dont really approve of it anymore, my morals have changed a bit, but this works like no other.

Also @Danger, if a guy is making you look like an A$$ in from of your girl, what I do is just turn whatever he said into a joke. Shows confidence in yourself and that you really dont care about what he said to you.
 

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In the scenario Tyler talks about, it sounds like the girl has already agreed to go to coffee with him, and he takes that opportunity to sabotage the relationship. If the girl was true to her guy, she wouldn't have agreed to coffee with some dude in the first place. This is what happens when girls go out with male "friends".
Agreed. Plus this strategy is built around the girl complaining about her man. If the relationship is this far gone then it's already dead. The boyfriend is already destroyed, this is merely the killing blow. I still think it's a pretty fvcked up thing to do though. Maybe if my best friend stole my girl I'd use these techniques to get her back just to spite him lol.
 

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There is a special place in hell for men who try these tactics.

I am glad I read this article though. If I notice any man trying this **** in front of me. I will shut him down.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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JoeMarron said:
Plus this strategy is built around the girl complaining about her man.
True. It's funny that this is built around talking to the girl about her relationship, which is something PUAs usually tell you not to do because that makes you her "emotional tampon".

John Chops said:
i hate to say this but I have done 80% of this article without even knowing what I was doing. It was to a girl with BF and it for sure worked. I dont really approve of it anymore, my morals have changed a bit, but this works like no other.
I'm not entirely sure that it's really possible to destroy a woman's sexual desire for some dude just by painting him as an AFC. I can see that this might help convince her to have sex with you, especially since she's come so far as to have coffee with you and complain about her boyfriend to you.

The moral question is another thing, but let's face it. To PUAs, nothing is more important than getting laid. I think it's kind of appalling that a guy would try to ruin a relationship when all he really wants is probably one night with this chick, but I guess that's what the PUA community is all about.
 

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Had a guy(one of those rich frat boy kind of guys) give my girl his number when i was about 20 ft away, she just gave it to me and i tore it up right in front of him and walked out with my arm around my woman.

This is some low **** to do. I'm glad people are posting what they do because im not usually at the ready with a witty response ( it might make sense in my head but when it comes out i have a 60% of looking retarded)
 

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Hmm, maybe they need to come out with an article on "PUA Destroyers".
 
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