Boxing learning curve

[Pandora]

So i very recently started boxing classes. This is a lot harder than i thought. Just getting the footwork down is counterintuitive. It is especially difficult if you dont have rhythm (like myself). My question is for people that have done boxing or a martial arts. How difficult was it when you first started? And should i try many martial arts and see which one comes naturally? I am willing to work very hard in boxing but i want to also practice a martial art that suits my natural talents.
Many coaches are not too helpful especially if you dont get expensive private lessons. My other question is how much did you guys pays for your martial arts classes. Thanks

 

[switch]

you learn boxing in the ring.

boxing is way more superior to other martial arts but if you want variety then try savat or sambo,

i paid a fee, but nothing fancy or expensive.

we worked out in a garage full of other sweaty dudez, being coached by a fat as fvck coach who like you said wasnt very helpful. I'd rank him as one of the most useless asshats in my life.

spar with as many assh0les as you can.i learned that way.

 

[The_flying_dutchman]

The best way to learn the foot work is to start a jump rope program to develop strength in your calves and also the ability to be light on your feet.

 

[Bible_Belt]

If it's not hard when you start, then the people you are training with are probably not that good. My approach to mma was to find the best group of fighters I could and then basically pay to get beat up every day. I paid $75/mo but that was cheap. You will never get better than those people if they keep training, but what will happen is that they will tend to quit over time and be replaced by new guys, and you will be much better than the new guys.

An mma friend of mine said once that all of his friends would ask him after a fight, why didn't you just punch the guy in the face? And he would reply, 'you have no fvcking idea how hard that is, do you?'

It took me a year and a half of training to even fight, and then another year or so before I got good enough to stand toe-to-toe and strike. And that's with the best trainer around.

 

[Colossus]

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I did the boxing club in college. I'd say it took me about a full semester before I got proficient at the basic punches, and maybe 3-punch combos. It's a LOT of conditioning and technique. I only sparred a few times, and I wasn't that confident in my defense at all. I knew I could hit really hard, but that doesn't mean sh!t if you cant move properly and defend yourself.

I also did a form of Karate as a kid and BJJ before college. I think---and this is my opinion---that a combination of western boxing, BJJ, and collegiate wrestling are the best all-around combat arts to know for a confrontation. Boxing is simple but it teaches you to move properly and defend yourself, in addition to landing an effective strike. BJJ (no Gi) is essential for any fight that goes to the ground, and collegiate wrestling will teach you how to maintain a dominant position and dump just about anyone on their back.

If you get reasonably (2-3 years) proficient at these, you can feel confident you are better equipped than 95% of the male population. Pro/Am MMA is a different story.

 

[Pandora]

If it's not hard when you start, then the people you are training with are probably not that good. My approach to mma was to find the best group of fighters I could and then basically pay to get beat up every day. I paid $75/mo but that was cheap. You will never get better than those people if they keep training, but what will happen is that they will tend to quit over time and be replaced by new guys, and you will be much better than the new guys.

An mma friend of mine said once that all of his friends would ask him after a fight, why didn't you just punch the guy in the face? And he would reply, 'you have no fvcking idea how hard that is, do you?'

It took me a year and a half of training to even fight, and then another year or so before I got good enough to stand toe-to-toe and strike. And that's with the best trainer around.

Yeh bro. I remember u posted a video of you fighting in an MMA match a couple years ago. Did u get any severe injuries? I bet now u feel pretty confident that you can defend yourself decently in most situations.

 

[Pandora]

being coached by a fat as fvck coach who like you said wasnt very helpful. I'd rank him as one of the most useless asshats in my life.

Lol at useless asshat:crackup: Yeh why are coaches fat? It makes you wonder sumtimes if they actually fought. I actually was reading that the repeated head trauma decreases their cognitive ability to coach for some coaches. Not all. But a lot of these dudes are kinda down on their luck washed up types that are not necessarily good teachers. It frustrating that you have to spar and kinda teach urself a lot of this stuff. Many coaches dont know how to explain and they dont have the patience.

 

[Pandora]

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If you get reasonably (2-3 years) proficient at these, you can feel confident you are better equipped than 95% of the male population. Pro/Am MMA is a different story.

2-3 years at boxing and BJJ is a lot of training bro. It sucks that it takes this much dedication to become decent at fighting. But nothing worth having comes easy right.
Guys that train at fighting are leagues ahead of the average guy that doesn't train. Its scary. Thats why its never good to start fights becuz if you mess with the wrong guy you could get destroyed.

 

[Pandora]

When you first start any fighting art, it is very difficult and almost even counterintuitive to pick up. It will take many months to pick up the most basic techniques (which are often the most useful.) It took me 6 months just to even begin to master the most simple joint locks, so you will have to put the time in if you want to see good results.

Man i needed to hear this. i thought i was abnormal lol.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Yeh bro. I remember u posted a video of you fighting in an MMA match a couple years ago. Did u get any severe injuries? I bet now u feel pretty confident that you can defend yourself decently in most situations.

The first fight I broke my foot, the second I had a concussion. Both fights were judges decisions and I would not have traded places with either one of my opponents, given the shape they were in. The third fight was a year later, and I had finally learned stand-up well enough to be confident that I could stand toe-to-toe and strike. Before I wanted to either stand out of range and kick, or tackle the other guy. That's not what ticket buyers want to see, though, it doesn't look like I want to fight unless I can box. I ended up losing the last fight to a guillotine after I beat on the kid for almost the full first round. I think I aggravated the concussion, as I was really mad afterward. I could probably have not tapped to that choke, but I didn't want to pass out and start twitching. That would be bad for the show.

Amateur mma has become really watered down in the past few years. There was a brief explosion of bad promoters and bad fighters. So just because someone has fought, they might not be all that fearsome. Enough good training in any discipline is what makes you a good fighter. TQD and point-sparring Karate styles are not in vogue these days, but once you get to about the 5th degree black belts, those guys have real skills. The best thing I like about being able to fight is knowing you can disarm someone who attacks you without hurting them seriously. That's the gap over untrained people.