"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Bootcamp Week#5: Get The Number...Get The Date!

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Originally posted by The_Shezzler
Good Stuff

Remember though - When Attempting to DHV through routines - not to come across as bragging! - this will be seen as overqualifiying and try-hard!

You can DHV through lots of different methods than just routines:

Eg - Before sarging a set of 9s, sarge a set of 7s - get her on your arm and parade her - use her as your pivot!

This shows the HB9 that you have High Value - pre selective naturality!!!

Roll up on the set of 9s with the 7 on your arm and watch how their reactions differ from that of a normal solo approach.

- A few other tactics.

- Wear womens perfume (women smells the perfume on you and thinks that you've been with other women that night)

- Get a woman you sarge to kiss you on the cheek (her lipstick print is another signal of DHV)

Give it ago

Sarge On...
yea good stuff. :D
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Originally posted by The_Shezzler
Never ASK - TELL her tour taking her out!!!

If she tries to be flaky with you on the initial set-up, ie a solid set-up - then i would next her and go PU someone else that same day!

YOU: Hey, do you like Bowling/Ice Skating/Mini - Golf??
HB: Yea sure
YOU: Excellent - we'll me and you are going this Saturday at 3:00pm - (confirm date and day everytime)

You can often get away with asking her:

When are you free? ( I do this often)

Always be assertive and always ASSUME THE SALE!!!

Keep up the good work

Sarge On...
Very Good advice Shez. Spoken like a true Master
 

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Originally posted by The_Shezzler
Swoop: Always abide by the 3 second rule!! IF you dont - then it seriously fcuks you up - you should have approached the girls as a group - rather than waiting for her friend to leave - this way you could have disarmed the obstacle and gotten in some good negs on your target.

...

Remember - He who hesitiates.....

Sarge On...
Yeah - I am really seeing the 3 second rule in a new light. Without it I have blown so many good opportunities.

On week 4 now with one rejection in the bank. Need to push myself a bit more. A day without an approach feels like a wasted day.
 

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Originally posted by fan27
Just ask her to go back to your place for a drink, cup of coffee, etc.....No need to get fancy. Once at your place, just make your move. She is obviously attracted to you or she wouldn't have come back to your place with you.

fan27

Yea, I see the pros and cons of the whole indirect vs direct game now. My game is always evolving. And at the moment, I use both. I'll try to adapt to situations as see fit.

So far, I have been pretty direct with her and she seems very keen. I haven't called her out on it but I think it's a LTR in the works.

Quick call from her lastnight asking if I was free this weekend :D I told her that I'll think of something for us to do together if nothing too important pops up, she seemed to give off a fake happy vibe. I know she wants ownership of me so I might play indirect to stall it til I get a few more quality dates.

But still, BC will go on. I'll participate and finish with as many numbers as I can get.

I still wanna go out with a few more girls before I tell her that she's my gf. I don't want to leave her disappointed.
 

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Mett Russian chick in Self Help section at Book store tonight. She said she was an insomniac and had been up for 3 days. She wasn't that hot but did have a pretty face. I suggested we go here a band play but she said she was too tired. I'll call her Saturday night and tell her to meet me somewhere. This is not a chick I would date but she looks like she would be fun in the sack.

fan27
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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FR: Funny and disgusting.

I went out at midnight to grab something to eat at Dennys. I dress all good just in case a lady of the night happens to be there. So I went in and the waitress sat me down. While I was reading the menu, 2 hb7 were behind me complaining they dont want this or that with their meals. I turned around to see who was so picky. Gave some strong eye contacts and both chicks looked at me, and then I open and said, "well, why don't you give all that to me." I definitely have their attention and one of the girl responded, "give me 3 dollars and you can have them." Then I just gave her a big smile and go back to looking at the menu. So I order and ate, then I decided to do some gaming on them, and so I listen to their whining about work and old people and I jump into their convo, talking about old people. They both were very engaging. While I was chatting with them, I was thinking in my mind the HB with black hair seems more delightful, and HB blonde is too young and immature. So I was giving HBblackhair alot of deep eye contact, then suddenly she BURP! It was loud and disgusting. We all laugh. I know girls do burp like us men. But it was a huge turn off. I totally lost interest after that, and I ended the convo early and just say my good bye and took off...

Has anyone experience something like this while sarging? A girl does something disgusting that turns you off?
 

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Originally posted by The_Shezzler
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

Man - Thats funny - it happened to a guy i know.

Let me tell you my views - I guarantee this is a Female Neg-Hit!!!! They are clocking onto us boys! :eek:

Good Stuff Swoop

Sarge On...
Female Neg-Hit? I never heard of that.. explain...
 

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Originally posted by The_Shezzler
I was joking mate - But on a serious note - i wonder if women actually do these types of things -to get men that they find boring etc, to either go away or lower their morale? Its just a thought - dont read too much into it.

- Look for

~Burps
~Nose Picking
~Scratching their nose
~Telling you your breath smells (out right irritating insult)

Sarge On...
haha yea that would be too clever of the females.
 

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Re: Extension...

Originally posted by The_Shezzler
Since there are a few guys still behind in the bootcamp (myself included lol - Only 1 number this week - Im going to give us all another week to get this weeks tasks done - before moving onto Week 6).

That ok with you guys?

Sarge On...
I think we can all agreed. Week 5 takes more time. Because it requires success. I am starting to get success, but only one number this week which I plan to call up maybe tomorrow.

Shezz, I was thinking we shouldn't put in a time limit, since everyone is going at a different pace. It is good to have time limit for Week 1 through Week 4 because those weeks were to push the BCers to lose their fears but week 5 it's more about learning and trying what works to get you the results. I plan to spent more time fine tuning my approach until I can get decent success. I believe once we can get good at Week 5, the rest of the weeks would be a breeze. So more time should be spent on harnessing the skill of approach in week 5.
 

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i know i haven't been giving any field reports, but i agree that we need probably an extention. so far i have gotten this week 2 numbers and in email this week. so far in the last two weeks i have gotten 4 #s and 2 emails. i already hung out with one of the girls, but she brung her friend and i was mad so we didn't do nothing we just sat in the school cafeteria. i ended up trying to get the girl to leave with me by making an excuse that i wanted to eat something, and we left campus. i tried to get more kino in, but then she said "why are you all flirty all of a sudden?" is this something bad?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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hey edo181 is my brother screen name but i posted with his screen name by mistake.
 

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Good news that there's an extension. But I feel kinda ripped off. I should be pushing myself to complete BC objectives within the set timeframe.

But still, happy to hear it. Now people, the weekend is near so I wanna surge in FR no matter how crappy they are. Today is a saturday so I can't wait til tonght. It's gonna be fun keeping the ball rolling and picking up a few numbers on the way. This weekend should be great for all of us.

Hey yrock181... I remember you! Welcome back dude! :cool:
 

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Disgrace Report: W5D? - Crap.

^
Always love those FRs from you mate. You put good effort in them and it shows. Look forward to it Shezza.


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2300 - No BC accomplishments. Guilty as charged.

Eh, we seem to head out to town a little later than usual these days. It takes a while to throw some shots in the system without going over board. There is a happy medium. Somewhere between tipsy to drunk is where it is. Drusy.

I get a call from one of my AFC friends. He wants to chill, he comes to my house regularly but it's been a while since we did the whole wallflower thing. Going out with him was as boring as lining up at the post office. Eh, with hot chicks in the line.

-Maybe I've grown ****ier and into a jerk, I'll think about my actions in detention-

He brings 6 guys with him and I bring my usual X-team. Ja, Moz and Me. We get to the club first, it was pretty dead, about 20 people.

Long story short, all of my mates made up for half the clubs earnings. Yea it was good to catch up with some blokes but my BC objectives went down the drain. Yeah we danced like crap, yeah we we're hell drunk and yeah, I didn't DO anything the whole night.

(Cept early on, I chatted to my mate's gf's friend. Ja flirted with my mate's gf. They both fvcked off quick when her bf came)

Ok, so no BC exercises finished, but I did learn something tonight.

While lining up at the bar a petite chubby blonde prob about 34yrs old, asked me for a light. hB6. Just cos she got big tatas. I laughed at her and said, "Can't you come up with an original line?" I pulled out the Zippo and baited her with the light. I couldn't care less. She was all smiles.

She asked if I smoked. I told her, "It's funny huh? I don't, but I carry a light. You do, but you have no light." I managed to skip the fluff or rapport building stage. Light punches and kino ensued. During the whole encounter 3 people behind me had already ordered their drinks. I was c+f, no routines tonight. She said she was 24 yrs old. She was lying, I let her go. My old AFC friend came up at that time to wing. Late, but nothing lost.

Three things happened during that conversation.
-She initiated. High probability she'ld put out
-Able to flirt and be direct. Kino early
-She was lying thru her teeth, and so did I. I told her I was from out of town. From another state, a township called Cowtown. Fvck, I couldn't think of anything better.

Later on, I just sat and chatted to my mates. Ja went out hunting and got turned down everytime. He was too drunk and jumped straight into the grinding business. No IOIs, no EC and straight from behind. No TALK, just ACTION. All my AFC mates scoffed and laughed at him for being such a bummer sex idol and I felt really embarressed.

Note to self:
-Organise wing tactics and signals
-Also, never show our faces at that club

There was two rooms. Moz kept an eye on him incase something major happened, Ja was off his face. It seemed the girl to guy ratio bettered when ever Ja went to the other room. He keep coming and going and so did the chicks. He hit on a girl with a bf. Lucky he didn't care.

Ja kept swarming the HBs and Moz followed in the background til! He got to that chubby hB6. The smoker girl. Straight away they got into it. My AFC "wing" told me that my girl was getting stolen from me. It didn't bother me much but he kept repeating it over and over, whiny AFC. So I decided, due to peer pressure, to make my presence known to the group. I made my way to the circle and starting dancing, laughing and acting like a goof with Ja and Moz. HB6 asked me if the "intrusive" guy was my friend. I said that it wasn't his day, he's overloaded on alcohol so she'ld better take care of him. Crap, the AFC got me to AMOG my wing. She said she was new to town to and to introduce her to all my friends. Whatever. I grabbed her hand and did so. Ja had nothing to do so he acted the priest and blessed Moz and HB6 wing, Warpig. After introductions to the X-club7 I lead her to the lounge and chatted a bit more. She was over me. Ja would try to make funny remarks and was very energetic. I decided to play opposite. Laid back and disinterested. The whole time she would kling onto my arm sitting beside me thigh to thigh. Ja had to lean in to talk to her.

After introductions, kino and flirting. Disinterest causes more interest on her behalf. I danced with her a bit, lead by hand around the club and rewarded her with my company. Push-pull I guess. In this case pull-push. When I sat back and did nothing, she urged me to lead hence, the increased interest levels ie: she displayed more kino, more questions and positive body language. I never did impliment the 'pull' after that push. She grabbed my hand and pulled me to the dancefloor but I told her I needed to keep my old friends company. "Joe's" birthday (lie). I just had enough, plus I was drunk. After the display Ja put on, and the interest he was overwhelming hB6 with, I wanted my wing to have her.

That was about it. Nothing else to report. But due to Ja's forwardness she, like many other girls, ran away. I guess it'll make her look like a sl*t if she gave in so soon without proper introductions and after hanging around with me. Moz wasn't happy with his Warpig and he just swayed around with his partner. Like a plastic bag in the wind. Beautifully pathetic. Ja insisted it was apart of the learning process. I think the kid may be scared to learn anymore.

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On the ride home we chatted more about tactics.
-Shoudn't overdo the drinking
-Initiate after IOIs, no more blind approaches
-Wing signals, yet to be announced
-No more hB6 or under, strictly no WARPIGS
-No more sarging with more than 4 guys. Set aside boy's night out just chilling with the boys

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EDIT: After reading this FR again, I sound like a jerk. Heh. Maybe subconsciously I have settled for Nat. The approach is only a percentage of the game, I've got that down. Keeping the LTR is the other. I need to spend more time with her. But I keep thinking, FVCK 1itis. Erg... whatever, I'm rambling. Gonna read Pook and soul search a little.

Yeah.
 

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After reading the mASF BC, I've decided to punish myself for not pushing myself to complete my exercises. (still only 7 rejections)

Punishment in order:
-Walk into 5 stores and sing (aloud, not obnoxiously loud) a chorus of song, yet to be dedcided upon. Most probably an emo one.
-No smoking for 3 days.
-Go to a CD store and sample a song. Get into it, dance and then not buy it because I didn't like it.
-Delete a HB's number unless I get another number.

Will post a FR of what happened.

Yeah, I'mma peacocking male attention wh*re. I love it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Bought The GAme





Found a fellow sosuaver in my country.






Would sarge next week.







Ready for bootcamp 5
 

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Congrats scorpio king, you're back on the bandwagon!

I got a tonne of crap to do this week and it all starts tomorrow.

-Tuesday, carry-out punishment.

-Wednesday night, live gig. Matchbook Romance.

-Thursday, rest day.

-Friday night, house party with new co-workers. I go back to work on the 18th but might as well have my 2nd introduction with the crew. Go out as group after.

-Saturday night with Nat. Ja got a number last night so he's gonna bring her too. Group date.

FRs to come!
 

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FR: Misfortunes of the wrong mindset

Originally posted by RBB
After reading the mASF BC, I've decided to punish myself for not pushing myself to complete my exercises. (still only 7 rejections)

Punishment in order:
-Walk into 5 stores and sing (aloud, not obnoxiously loud) a chorus of song, yet to be dedcided upon. Most probably an emo one.
-No smoking for 3 days.
-Go to a CD store and sample a song. Get into it, dance and then not buy it because I didn't like it.
-Delete a HB's number unless I get another number.

Will post a FR of what happened.

Yeah, I'mma peacocking male attention wh*re. I love it.

1030 - Head off to the mall

Hell yea, I was decked out in the punkiest punk gear I could funk myself in. Complete with slip-on shoes, grandpa pants, black button up and a red tie. Chuck on my sunnies which are too big for my face and I'm off.

On the bus ride to the mall 2 HBs get on the bus. HB8 brunette who gave heavy EC to a neck breaking twist as she passed me, and later HB7.5 blonde. Er.. I shamefully admit I didn't force myself and went with my AFC gut. "Hey rBB! You are funked out with a new outfit! Can you pull it off? Are they looking at you cos you're a mess?" FVCKING AFC. I'm gonna kill him tonight. I have a plan.

All the seats on the bus face forward, bar one. HB blonde sat on the seat that faced the middle of the bus. My 3 o'clock. Facing forward, I saw at one point she was sitting facing me and with her left leg up on the seat to the side of her. Eh, I'm not good at painting a picture for you guys. Let's just say she was fully spread. Fvck, I swore I saw the softest camel toe shining thru those jeans. Still, I did nothing. After about 5mins of spreading, she got tired so she sat behind me and played with her mobile. It made all soughts of noises, she wanted me to say something I bet. I don't know what I was thinking. FVCK!

When I got to town I walked up and down the mall with my sunglasses on. It's an outdoor mall. Lotsa HBs looked my way but that was all. I took off the sunnies and it worked like a charm. Doing a slow lap of the mall about 20 HBs made EC with me. I managed about 6 or 7 Hi's with smiles. A few emo kids looked at me but I wasn't phased, maybe they thought I overdid the whole emo look.

I stopped at a bench and lit a ciggy.
-No smoking for 3 days.
I broke one of my rules. Too bad I didn't enjoy it.

I had some items to buy. Undies, a knitted vest and maybe a DVD. Went to a trendy menswear store and started to sing out Fall Out Boy. I sang a bit and the HBstore looked at me but didn't approach me to ask if I needed help. I wanted to stop but the look on her face was a positive one. Mouth half open/half grin, she looked me up and down. Got to say, get the whole eye treatment from a HB felt good. After the first verse of the song;
HBstore: Are you looking for anything in particular?
Me: Yeah, a knitted vest and a black tee.
HBstore: Well it's gonna be hard to find a knitted vest cos that's out of season. But we have a few black tees.
-fluff-
HBstore: That's a cool badge.
Me: Oh, it's Stryfe from the Marvel Universe. blah blah.. You're not really interested huh?
HBstore: No, keep talking.
-crap I can't believe she'ld put up with, it seems my new confident outfit entitled me to talk geek and HBs would have to listen. That or she's paid to take crap from me-
Me: Hey, let's talk more X-Men later. You got a phone number?
HBstore: Yeah sure... but I have a bf.
Me: lol, fine! No more X-Men factuals for you.
-fluff about what colour match and I'm out-

I head off to another upper end gentlemen's clothing store. Aimed at over 40s. I started singing Britney, Sometimes. HBstore there was a *****. Ignoring me cos I talked down to her and was ****y. I swore in the store and said the clothing only fit fat people anyways, but it didn't come off c+f. I think she was *****y with me cos I was giving out don't give a fvck vibes. And yea, I was rude first. Arh well, I'll learn from it. Or not. Who cares.

A hB6 cold app. me with "Do you have the time?" -I know, I could of came up with crap and busted her on it- I told her the time. She complimented my watch, I thanked her and left. I didn't want her hump. "Check it out." First chick to come up to me in a while.

Went to a few stores. No luck, they had no vest.

The last store I went to had vests in 3 colours. Plus it was buy 2 get 1 free. So I spent my 70 bucks. During my karaoke session while browsing HBstore came up to me and asked if I wanted some help. Song: The Used - Maybe Memories.
HBstore: Could I help you?
Me: Sure. -points imaginary microphone in her face- Sing!
HBstore: *laughs* No, I meant with the clothing.
Me: Yeah.. -blah blah vest-
-shows me vests. Knitted tops with sleeves etc. We talk about altering clothes and putting cuts on jeans and stuff and it's boring. But she got into it. I put on a fashion show with the yellow vest over my black top-
Me: Errgheh..
HBstore: Aww.. I think it looks cool.
Me: Huh? No, my errgheh is a good thing. I like it too. I reckon I can pull it off.

I buy the merchandise and she asks why I need this new outfit. Asks if I study or work, about my badges. Blah.. we talk for about 20mins. I tell her I work in a club, I live in the US etc. And she follows up with more questions. I know, I know, major IOIs here. I could of number closed but I was pu$$y. She was taller than me. Another HB worker comes in the store to start her shift. We talk too, she tells me about her operation. How she was 80kgs at one point and was 42kgs the next. Then shows me her flab, puppy fat. Once again major IOIs here, but I didn't close.

-No routines today.
-No CA today.
-No numbers today.
-Crazy IOIs and EC today. Will peacock more.

I think not approaching any of the HBs on the bus on the way to town fvcked me up. It put me in a negative mindset. I can't believe I didn't even have a convo with one of them. Shame...

I will definitely remember to have warm-up convos to get the ball rolling in future. CAs seemed really hard to do today. Maybe peacocking turned me into a woman. All of a sudden I did the choosing and not the approaching. Erh.. yeah I fvkt it up.

8 rejections in total to date
0 #s today, now I have to delete a number, FVCK! Maybe Jasmine (thinks I'm bad) or Amy (has bf).
3 songs sang. 2 more to go.
Didn't do:
-No smoking for 3 days.
-Go to a CD store and sample a song. Get into it, dance and then not buy it because I didn't like it.

Matchbook Romance tomorrow. I'll see what happens in a live gig atmosphere. Will prepare to use some openers and routines.

Let's see what works and what doesn't.
 

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Originally posted by The_Shezzler
Nice work with the Peacocking, dang - it sucks about the bus ride, it woulda been great if you'da sarged that girl - could have given me a few tips - thats probably one of my sticking points!
No sh*t, usually the HBs sit at the front. But since I dress like that Greenday fella I was bombarded with camel toe. I should work more on my bus game. rBB's public transportin' game. I'm feeling good today. Something will happen at that Matchbook Romance gig tonight. What's that ABBA song? Taka chance-taka chance-taka chance.. Eh, FR to come.

Now back to my daily emocore psyche-up session.
 

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Blimey, a whole new niche in the sarging market, HB's on buses. I'm gonna get me some of those!!!

Now that's what I call a report RBB, maybe you should've found some uglies to lift you back up after missing the bus opportunity?

Keep em coming!!
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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