Bootcamp Week#5: Get The Number...Get The Date!

[Swoop]

I like the modification on week 5. Good job Shezz! Yea, last week I didn't try any solid game since I was aiming for rejection. I basically introduce myself or use a opener then #close fast and rejection is pretty much given. This week I'll definitely try more game and hopefully get better results. Despite that I did get 2 #s last week. I didn't post field report but saving it for week 5 to tell them. Here they are:

#1. She is a customer that I have seen around. Always found her cute but never really spoke to her but had given her eye contact and smiles before and of course greet her when she arrived. I just went up to her and started small talk and compliment her and went straight to # close. And suprisingly she seem excited to give.

#2. She is a friend of a friend. Met her and just talk about where we came from and our interests, we both came from same city which was a good connection there. I just assume she'll give me the # and I pull out my cell and said "Hey you got a cell phone?" Then she replied, "Yea, I do, just got it recently." Got her #.

For girl #1, I actually did give her a call to schedule a date. Here is what went down:

Swoop: "hey, (her name), this is Swoop from (my workplace)."
HB#1: "hey wazzup!"
Swoop: "nothing much, how are u?"
HB#1: "same, just chilling."
Swoop: "hey I'm going to play some miniature golf tomorrow, calling to see if you wanna come."
HB#1: "Really? Ah I already made plan to go to (some other city)"
Swoop: "No big deal... maybe next time."
HB#1: "But give me a call back tomorrow, just in case me and my friends end up not going, k?"
Swoop: "Aight, cool yea I'll give you a call tomorrow then, alright talk to you later.."

So the next day, I did call her and got her voice mail, left a message if she still wants to go to give me a call back. She never called me back so I assume she did left town. Thought about giving her another call but realize it's thanksgiving and she probably visiting her parents so I'll have to wait afterwards to try again. I'm giving this girl one more shot as she did seem interested, but if we fail to make a date again, I'm deleting the #.

Second girl, I haven't call her yet, just waiting til after Thanksgiving to arrange something.

In the meantime hopefully I can get some digits. So no dates for the Swoop yet.

 

[scorpio king]

asked a girl out but she said she wasnt sure so I have to confirm the night before the said date. Is this alright?

 

[RBB]

FDR: W4/5D10/1 - Repost of "I'm cool"

For week#5 purposes, I've gone on a date and here's the post for you. Enjoy, cos I did.

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FDR. Sounds like a fvkken arcade dancing game.

TIME: 1400

Just woke up. Today is the day I get to join you guys in BC again. I check my mobile and it has 1 new message. I think to myself, "Arh fark.. friggin' flaker! It can't be!" I check it suspecting a message from Nat.

"Hey Sen, let's go get some clothes afterwork for this weekend. Let's pick up chicks again. Call ya at 5" - Jamal, formally Haz.

Heh, I guess Ja gets the peacock. I dig, you dig, we dig? Buh-garrrRR!!

I sms Nat telling her that we are still on for coffee at 4. I told her I'ld be there to pick up some stuff. After a shower and gel, I make my way to the bus station.


2nd rejection:
Married woman in her 40's. I decided to have some fun.

Me: Hey, been waiting for the 576 long?
HB40: Just 10mins.
Me: Cool, can I ask you a question?
HB40: Yes.
Me: Tell me why it's so hard to meet women these days. -Hahahaha, asking a woman for advice!!-
HB40: Oh really? You're a dashing young man. I'm sure you will be ok.
Me: Well I haven't been ok for a while. Can you suggest any place I can go to meet women?
HB40: Hahaha.. I don't know.. where young people are these days.
-I continue to act like a hopeless guy and she starts getting more and more involved-
Me: Can I ask you another question?
HB40: Sure.
Me: Will you have a coffee with me?
HB40: -blushes!- Oh, I'm flattered, but I'm married with 5 kids. My daughters about you age.
-I continue being hopeless-
I felt so dumb, had to catch an awkward bus ride to the mall. I don't know why I busted AFCness on her. I guess I just wanted to see what results I could get. Result: NOTHING.

So I get to the mall at 3:15ish. About 45mins for a walk around and cold approach my as$ for rejections.

Going for the 3rd rejection:
I make my way to the entrance of the mall passing the smokers area. HB7, dressed in black. Looks 14.

Me: Got another ciggy for me?
HB7: Yea. -Pulls out cigarette tin-
Me: Oh, you smoke 8s. How girly of you.
HB7: I just started a month ago.
Me: Cheers. -I pull out my Zippo and squeeze a little trick out-
HB7: Cool, you got a Zippo. I'm gonna get one as well.
Me: Well I'm trying to quit smoking. The Zippo encourages the habit cos I don't want to throw it away.
HB7: Yeah, I know. It's too cool to throw away.
Me: Hey, what's your name?
HB7: Jasmine.
Me: How about this Jasmine? Give me your number and we'll go for a coffee sometime. If you can get me to quit, I'll give you the Zippo.
HB7: Hmm.. ok. A free $40 Zippo.
-We trade numbers infront of people going in and out of the mall, it felt good. But still, how lame was that? Bound to happen with my cool dress sense-

After that I was on a high. A sarging high. How good must I be when I don't spit game and they still flock my way? Although the free Zippo enticed her, so I guess she just wants something I got.

3rd rejection:
I walk around looking for some CDs. Just so I got something to bring to the table at the coffee date. I walk into a Virgin store and head for the rock/alternative section. Hmm.. The Used got a new Live Performances album. And a free DVD! Erg, too pricey. I spot HB8.5 worker. Damn, a HB8.5 Virgin. Heh. She's nearby putting out some DVDs.

Me: Hey, did The Used ever bring out a DVD?
HB8.5: They got the Taste of Chaos tour DVD but it only has one act by them on it.
Me: Bummer, so no DVD out?
HB8.5: Just the new album.
Me: So I guess you too are a Used fan?
HB8.5: Yep! Went to the tour.
Me: No crap, me too. Best tour to hit town.
HB8.5: So far.. Simple Plan are coming down.
Me: Oh yea? I'll go but I don't dig them. A little boring. Give me your number and we'll meet up their.
HB8.5: I have a bf.
Me: Yeah. Ben right?
HB8.5: Hahahaha.. yeah.. No.
-I walk off. But I reckon I could get that number if I tried. But at this pace, I'll never get 10 rejections- Damn BC.

It's about 3:50ish so I make my way to the cafe we are meeting at. The one by the entrance. I give Nat a call to tell her that I'll be waiting there but she's already there! I hang up. It's getting weird, she's too early. Is she with someone?

I get to the cafe and she's alone. I know how to handle this.. I walk towards her and extend my palm out, facing upward, with a smile.
Me: Hey Nat, you're looking girly! -Pull in for a kiss on the cheek, but she's more front on and it's a side/lip kiss-
Nat: Hah! Would you prefer a boyish chick like Avril Lasagna? -whateva-
Me: Yeah.. She's good. Let's order there girly Avril.
Nat: No way, I'm way better than her.
-I lead her to the ordering area, pay and get the tables. I took my hand away from hers after the kiss but then held it again when she followed me and stood behind me while I ordered. Imprinting in her sub-conscious with good feelings for following my suit-
Me: Let's sit here. Only the best for my girly Avril. After you. -Indirect way of telling her she's mine-
Nat: Ooh.. heehee. Thankyou.
Me: You're so cute when you do that. Do it again. Pleazzze..
-While sitting next to her, hand on her hand, I fluff my way till the coffee comes. And guess who served us?! Jasmine!! So I guess I've got 4 rejections now. She smiled at me and then Nat giving us the coffees. Acting as tho she's never met me. I felt so playuh. I also had the sneeking suspicion that the coffee was bad-
Me: You know what? Are you as adventurous as I had hoped?
Nat: Hah yeah!
Me: Let's go.
Nat: Huh? Where? What about the coffees?
Me: I don't feel like coffee. I feel like a thickshake. We'll get the biggest one and share.
Nat: Car-rrazeee...

So we went to another cafe and got them to dump a thickshake on us. About was about 1.5 litres. She offered to pay as I payed for the coffees and I told her that I knew she was the independant woman type. Not owing to anyone or any man. I busted her on it and then told her that it was sexy. More push-pull. During the shake, Jamal called and asked me to come out to another mall to get a pink shirt he had been eyeing. Social proof! I'mma busy man. I told him I was on a date with a chick that has met my standards, "She's the only gurl who had exceeded my expectations and now I have to set myself new standards. Ja, your mum's too good. She's waiting for me, I'll call you back." Nat balled out laughing. She wsa quite talkative so I just gave just like a good conversationalist. Boring hard work being a great conversationalist.

Nat ended up going with Jamal and I to the other mall. We held hands and she clung on me a fair bit. Fvck-yeah! After the social proof display infront of Nat, now Ja gets his turn. But knows I'm cool anyways.

Rejections: 4, 6 more.

Seeming as we went in 2 cars, I went home with Ja and she went home alone. Erg.. I think of something later..

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So slow start to week 4. I'll go out tomorrow night (friday) and get me some serious rejections with Ja and Moz. I'll tell em I'm doing it on purpose and encourage them to just do it for twist. Whateva..

And no, I'm not getting 1itis.

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I'll call Nat tomorrow night and tell her I'm gonna have dinner at a relative's place. I need tomorrow night for BC.

 

[VSIDEBOY]

I agree, I reckon Jasmine will probably be more interested after seeing you with another girl.

Well done man.

 

[VSIDEBOY]

Originally posted by The_Shezzler
Hey VSIDE - Feel free to join the Bootcamp if you wish - It all depends on the stage that you are at, you may want to check out the first 4 weeks before you join - or feel free to start again from the beginning at your own pace.

Shezz,
I'll probably try the BC out nearer christmas mate, been a bit hectic for the past month so not had much chance to do anything other than work (socialising has been put on hold temporarily.)

OK I have taken today off work for a bit of a rest, so I decided that as I hadn't been out for ages I would go to a club last night, heres what happened.

I was out with my mate (P - 26yo) and one of his mates (R - 18yo).
Anyway the evening started off fairly quiet, we just sat in a bar talking and drinking for a few hours, as it was fairly quiet (bar is right opposite the club and it was too cold outside to go somewhere else) got to be about 10:45 and the club would be open.
We knew that the club would be fairly quiet but the lure of vodka redbulls for £1.30 dragged us out of the bar.

Sorry did I say fairly quiet earlier, I think that we doubled the people in there when we walked in haha, (including the barstaff!)

An hour and a few drinks later it started to fill up a bit, (P) went to talk to a girl that he recognised who was standing with her friend - friend was looking very angry so I thought 'GREAT - I'll get the angry one!' So I walk over and try to get her friend to crack her face with no luck what-so-ever. A tall skinny guy with long hair comes and says something to her, so I intro myself to him as well, DAMN 2 person wingman now! Anyway he turned out to be really boring so made a great pairing with angry chic. Angry chic went to toilet so I left boring guy standing on his own and went to find (R).
(R)was leaning on a railing overlooking the dancefloor. There was probably 15 people in that room and a couple of girls on the dancefloor, (R) says he liked one of them but didn't dare go and say HI so I walked onto the dancefloor and stood inbetween the 2 girls, held my hand out to her and said 'come and meet my buddy he's a really fun guy', her friend left her with me and then she told me that she was a lesbian! I said 'I don't really care WHAT you are, I'm not trying to chat you up so it doesn't matter!' she then totally changed and started talking normally to me for about 30 seconds. Then the Biggest Fattest woman I have seen in a long time came and said something to her about her friend was crying in the toilet or something so she apologised to me and they left (I just waved as she got dragged away and went back to (R) saying that she was a lesbian - no worries!
Similar story later on, more people on the dancefloor this time though he liked the look of one of them and coincidentally she ended up standing with her friends right next to me! (What are the odds of that?)
I gave her my secret finger tap, leant sideways to speak to her and said 'Hey, that was some pretty cool dancing' (Lame I know but just wait!!) she said 'thanks' and leant away again. Now the good bit....
Finger tap again, lean sideways and say 'yeah my buddy here thought that you were dancing a bit out of tune though!' she got the look of 'I'm a great dancer why would he think that!' so I introduced them and went to see how (P) was getting on.
No worries he was still with that lass, but angry and boring had bogged off so that was ok. Unfortunately (P) ended up getting kicked out for some reason that I haven't found out yet. I bumped into dodgy dancer again and she asked where he was. Said she liked him, so I said well give me your number and I'll get it to him. In my book she was about a 6 out of 10 in the looks department and a bit overly chubby for my liking, so I wasn't really interested - turned out though that she was a stripper so I hope (R) is pleased that I got her for him.

Almost hometime now, (P) was STILL with that girl and I was leaning with my back on the bar finishing up my drink, a girl came a stood next to me, again just turned my head, finger tap, lean, 'HEY, you look like a fun kind of girl' she thanked me. I get my phone out, get it to the new contact, hand her it and told her to put her number in cos we'll have to hang out sometime. She starts putting her name in then hands it back and runs off. I think 'Not my loss!' and put my phone away again. About 30 seconds later she comes back with a phone in her hand cos she doesn't know her number, number in my phone and its time us boys get our taxi home.

Not called this chic yet but I'll let you know how it goes. GREAT NIGHT!

 

[VSIDEBOY]

Well guys, I just called the girl from last night. Went ok, but due to college work deadlines she ain't gonna have any spare time for at least 2 weeks - DAMN.

Oh well, I told her to get in touch when she gets some spare time. No worries.

 

[Skydiver43127]

Thumbs up, guys
It's really good to know there are more people out there approaching. I'm testing a new opener the last week or two. You can try it out too. Here are the tries so far. Interpret "...." as "some stuff I didn't hear/don't remember"

btw I'm currently trying to get comfortable with canned cold approaches. That's the main reason I don't go for the numbers.

The structure is:
"Do I know you from somewhere?" (suspicious look)
responce
"That's a shame! I'm Peter" (smiling and holding out my arm)


HB8 waiting for someone in cinema: (her girl friend, as I noticed few minutes later)
"Hey, do I know you from somewhere?"
<looks at me for a second> "No, I don't think so"
"Oh, ok, bye"

HB9 working at cinema:
"Hey, where can I get a program?"
"In the office downstairs" <open body language>
"Hmm, do I know you from somewhere?"
<looks at me and smiles> "No, I don't think so"
"Well, that's a shame! I'm Peter"
"I'm ..."
"Well, ... I'd better go get that program. I'll leave you to scare away the customers."

HB8 at some shop in the cinema's building:
"Hey, do I know you from somewhere?"
"No!"

HB7, at a bus stop:
"Hey, do I know you from somewhere?"
<thiks>"No, I don't think so"
"Well, that's a shame! I'm Peter"
"Well, I'm ...."
"Glad to meet you, ......"
...
She behaved distant, so I dropped the conversation and went to another place on the bus stop to hid from the wind. A minute later I realized why she was distant - her bf came.

HB7-8 (too heavy clothes to tell), at a bus, with a school bag, which she put much effort to place as well as possible.
"Hah, that's the first time I see a person care about a school bag's comfort so much!"
<smiles>"Well, I ....."
"Hey, do I know you from somewhere?"
<thinks>"No, I don't think so"
"That's a shame. I'm Peter"
"I'm ..."
....
I had to go, so I ended the interaction few minutes later.

HB7 at a bus top:
"Hey, do I know you from somewhere?"
"No, I don't think so"
"That's a shame. I'm Peter"
"I'm ..."
I asked her what she's waiting for, exchanged some info about the busses, then my bus came and I left.

Anyway, in a nutshell:
1. Almost no rejection or even resistance at my advance, which surprised me.
2. The hottest girl was the most friendly form all I approached.
3. While the 3-second-rule is still in place for time- and conficence-saving purposes, for success it doesn't matter how long you wait to approach.

Analysis:
The structure is really interesting. The "Do I know you from somewhere" gives you a 100% valid reason to approach. It's also common opener, of course, so it's only good for establishing contact, not attraction. At this point the girl just things you're the next guy trying to pretend he knows her, so that he can establish a connection.

The "What a shame! I'm ..." then shifts the frame completely. It's one of DeAngelo's favourite tricks - do something a wuss would do and, just after the girl is convinced she knows what she's dealing with, turn everything around. That's how attraction is built.

 

[scorpio king]

Originally posted by The_Shezzler
Good Stuff Skydiver.

Thats a good approach, but try to extend the convo a bit more - try some vibing to get the convo escalating - this will get you more relaxed and will greatly improve your confidence and control over the situation.

An opener that ive been trying on mixed sets as of late is Styles Two part kiss: 2 Sets

Me: Hey guys can i get your opinion on something?
Guys: Who are you?
Me: Im a friend of the land (****y way)
Guys: Then move along
Me: (I Sensed hostility so i moved on)

2nd Set

Me: Hey guys can i get your opinion on something?
Set: Sure!
Me: Cool, ok, Do you think its cheating if a girl your seeing goes to a club and makes out with a guy for fun?
Set: Yea thats cheating!
Me: Hmm ok thats cool, now, what if you were seeing a girl - and she went to the club and made out with another girl for fun? Is that cheating.

From here you can discuss about the topic - but always remain IN CONTROL always lead the way with topic control and always disarm the obstacles.

After a brief discussion on the subject - tell them that your friend is in the same situation and dosnt know what to do.

Give it a go.

Coming Soon, watch out for Shezzlers Combination of Two Top Gurus methods!!!

Sarge On...

Sarge On...

Hey shezz a question here( not related to bootcamp 5)


Here's the deal, my two buddies sarge every afternoon after our college classes. We would loiter around our university and we see a lot of HB's. The problem is we couldnt open a group of like 5 girls. DO you have any more openers besides the one youve mention above?

 

[GodsGiftToFatBirds]

The structure is: "Do I know you from somewhere?" (suspicious look)
responce
"That's a shame! I'm Peter" (smiling and holding out my arm)

You could improve that quite a bit by asking if you know them from a particular place (club/school/work wherever) and try to make it an interesting place and have a good funny follow up story ready to get the convo going.
That way you can make em laugh and get em interested rather than just using summat that, with all due respect, comes across as a bit of a lame pick up line.

 

[Skydiver43127]

You could improve that quite a bit by asking if you know them from a particular place (club/school/work wherever) and try to make it an interesting place and have a good funny follow up story ready to get the convo going.
That way you can make em laugh and get em interested rather than just using summat that, with all due respect, comes across as a bit of a lame pick up line.

Try that. See what happens.

 

[RBB]

Just throwing up an idea for those in week 5 by now. Congrats by the way. I'ld post the original thread on this method, but I couldn't find it. If you are reading this and it rings a bell, kindly direct BCers to the thread.

This applies to my situation. I live by myself but don't have any fancy crap like paintings, vases and artistic idols. But I have a killer wardrobe, ranging from my AFC try-hard days to my now intermediate PU days. Mainly covers punk, classy and rnb clubwear.

I plan to use this method so that I might be able to get a date back to my house.

~ Here's the basic gist.

You: "Hey, I wanna show you my wardrobe so that you can give some ideas (fashion advice from a HB, they love that crap) on how to mix and match my favourite clothes." <-- something you wanna show her, make it interesting fellas!

Her responce: "Yes, no, maybe..etc."

You: "It should only take 15mins." <-- time constraint. no pressure here.

Once inside give her a guided tour, may not be so grand in my house. Some empty rooms here.

Show her the fashion show you intend to put on, or whatever reason you make up to get her in the house. Not your special edition transformers.

And then show her the chillout CDs in your bedroom, lounge room, whatever. <-- get her relax on a bed/sofa, something for 2.

In my bedroom I've specifically set up a 5.1 sound system for bedtime relaxing and Zs. I'll ask her to prove me right by laying there on my bed on her stomach as I'll walk over and put on some MoS: Chillout Sessions. Then proceed to walk over hop on my bed next to her. Tell her to relax and immerse herself in the situation. Light kino, hair stroking, heavy MAVEC etc..

Basically you have to get her relaxed and turn the situation into a sexual state.

Remember 2 steps forward and one step back. LMR techniques when required.

~

Anyone know who posted the original thread?

 

[Swoop]

Swoop here. The holiday has thrown me off course. I need to get some #s. But work has prevented me from going out. We lost an employee so I have to pick up some of his hrs. Anyways, I need to find time to go sarging. I miss the action.

One thing I do realize though is.. whoever said hot babes are never alone is correct. man, I see them everywhere but they are either with their bf or with some friends. Tough tough...

Anyways, keep it up guys.

 

[fan27]

Originally posted by RBB
Just throwing up an idea for those in week 5 by now. Congrats by the way. I'ld post the original thread on this method, but I couldn't find it. If you are reading this and it rings a bell, kindly direct BCers to the thread.

This applies to my situation. I live by myself but don't have any fancy crap like paintings, vases and artistic idols. But I have a killer wardrobe, ranging from my AFC try-hard days to my now intermediate PU days. Mainly covers punk, classy and rnb clubwear.

I plan to use this method so that I might be able to get a date back to my house.

~ Here's the basic gist.

You: "Hey, I wanna show you my wardrobe so that you can give some ideas (fashion advice from a HB, they love that crap) on how to mix and match my favourite clothes." <-- something you wanna show her, make it interesting fellas!

Her responce: "Yes, no, maybe..etc."

You: "It should only take 15mins." <-- time constraint. no pressure here.

Once inside give her a guided tour, may not be so grand in my house. Some empty rooms here.

Show her the fashion show you intend to put on, or whatever reason you make up to get her in the house. Not your special edition transformers.

And then show her the chillout CDs in your bedroom, lounge room, whatever. <-- get her relax on a bed/sofa, something for 2.

In my bedroom I've specifically set up a 5.1 sound system for bedtime relaxing and Zs. I'll ask her to prove me right by laying there on my bed on her stomach as I'll walk over and put on some MoS: Chillout Sessions. Then proceed to walk over hop on my bed next to her. Tell her to relax and immerse herself in the situation. Light kino, hair stroking, heavy MAVEC etc..

Basically you have to get her relaxed and turn the situation into a sexual state.

Remember 2 steps forward and one step back. LMR techniques when required.

~

Anyone know who posted the original thread?

Just ask her to go back to your place for a drink, cup of coffee, etc.....No need to get fancy. Once at your place, just make your move. She is obviously attracted to you or she wouldn't have come back to your place with you.

fan27

 

[scorpio king]

I have the 9 rejections. THe 9th one was a flake after getting the number.

 

[fan27]

Had coffee date yesterday with a chick I met at the Supermarket. She was looking good. The date went well. I plan on setting up something for this Saturday (bowling then going to see a band play). Hopefully I will have a more interesting field report for next week.

Had 2 rejections yesterday. Approaches are getting easier. practice, practice, practice.

fan27

 

[Swoop]

FR: Another successful #close.

Anyways, I decided to hit the bar after work even though I was tired. I'm glad I did. I didnt plan on staying long since I gotta work tmw. So I played some pool with a friend. I look around and notice 2 sets sitting near by. While playing pool, one of the girl kept looking over at us playing. I made eye contact and just smile. Long story short, I had this feeling she wanted me to approach her. Dont know why I get that... but to make it easier on me, she stayed behind alone when her friend took off. I was like damn, perfect opportunity. So I decided to send my friend away by pretending its time to leave. So my friend took his jacket and I follow behind him then I said I gotta use the restroom, so I'll see you tomorrow. Then as my friend walked out the door. I spoted 2 chicks whom I sarge and fail last time, they saw me and said hi to me. So I was being polite and chit chat a little with them... knowing a hb was waiting on the other side of the bar for me to approach her. So I cut the convo short and went back to the girl. Guess what happen??? SHE LEFT!!!! OMG, she was there for the taken and I took too long and I bet she thought I went home. I know she wanted me to approach her because of the constant eye contacts we were having and the fact she stayed behind all alone with no one in site except me. Sh!t, I screw up. Really kicking myself for this.

Anyways, the night isnt over. I went back to the 2 set that I met the other time and just sit and chat with them again. This time I just talk to them like normal people, occasionally funny stuff enters the convo such as talking about drinks with dirty names. I can sense the sexual arousal in the air. haha Anyways, we dwell into her interests (my target) and I share something about me that relates so she see us having stuff in common. Anyways, I was definitely gaining tons of rapport here. And then we talk about hiking, I was like that sounds so fun. I did my #close routine here and guess what, this time it worked. I didnt ask her for the #. I made her ask me. I just say "wow, that sounds so fun, next time you go, call me up." She immediately responded correctly, " I dont have your #, so give me your#." I took out my phone and read her my # and she punch it into her cell, I then ask her for # now so that I can call her up if I want to. Bamn! Got the #.

Well, I guess second time is the charm.

PS: Again I am still kicking myself for letting my first target walk off like that. Gosh lesson learn, next time need to move in.

 

[scorpio king]

Im officially in week #5 now! Just got my 10th rejection a minute ago. The chick told me that she doesnt give her number because she is concentrated in her studies.

 

[Swoop]

Originally posted by The_Shezzler
Good stuff Fan and Swoop!!!

Swoop: Always abide by the 3 second rule!! IF you dont - then it seriously fcuks you up - you should have approached the girls as a group - rather than waiting for her friend to leave - this way you could have disarmed the obstacle and gotten in some good negs on your target.

If however you come across a lonewolf - DO NOT HESITATE -dont wait for any IOI - just plow straight in there! If she looks up before you get there then look her in the eyes and smile - open her with Directness (Ive found this is the best way - as opposed to an Indirect Opener - which is better for sets). After you have opened her with a direct approach - stack a few routines in their, drop in a FTC and some negs and escalate with comfort building and vibing.

Remember - He who hesitiates.....

Sarge On...

Yea, I know, I need to beat that 3sec rule into me some how. By routine you meant scripted stories right? Also what is FTC?

 

[Swoop]

Originally posted by The_Shezzler
Yea -Stack your routines man - Create your own or use some of the tried and tested material.

FTC = False Time Constraint - eg, I cant stay for long guys, coz i gotta meet up with my friends.

Sarge On...

Cool! I have been working on my own stuff. I got one story which is a true story that have been field tested many times by me that gets a laugh every time, esp with girls. Forgot to use it today. I was operating on instinct the whole time.

Thanks for reminding me about FTC. I been meaning to use that.

I need to write some more routines that demonstrate other qualities of me, therefore succeeding in DHV to her.

Man Shezz, thanks again for pointing out what I need to work on.

Sarge on!!!!

 

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Originally posted by scorpio king
Im officially in week #5 now! Just got my 10th rejection a minute ago. The chick told me that she doesnt give her number because she is concentrated in her studies.

Welcome to week 5 man. Good to have another BCer make it this far.