Bootcamp Germany

[IndianaJoneS]

Hey guys,

hopefully this is the right place.

I will put here the results of a new bootcamp, I started today in Germany, Munich.

Feel free to comment or even join (just drop me a PM if you're in Munich..).

Background : I did some pickup 2005/2006 and want to refresh my skills.

cu !

 

[IndianaJoneS]

haha, you mean the name of this barracks ?

 

[IndianaJoneS]

ok guys,

I will skip the "eye contact" week completely, as I always and with no feeling of shame do and hold eye contact with whatsoever girl.

 

[IndianaJoneS]

week 2 : 50 "his" to complete strangers.

Walking through the city :

I lock eye contact 10 - 20 meters to passing by people.

Most simply don't recognize me. Some look for 1,2 seconds, but look away when they realize, I'm holding ec. When I get a more or less steady eye contact, I smile and say "hi".

Results so far :

17/50

Insights :

I felt a little uncomfortable doing this stuff. At the core it was the fear of beeing seen as strange. But what is strange about beeing friendly and greeting other people ?? Maybe our technology has alienated us. Sad enough, I feel this way, beeing social should be natural for all of us.

Beside that, I realized that doing this in overcrowded places is not optimal. It's more likely to be recognized, when you're just walking down a street, passing by people from time to time. When it's too crowded, you have very short reaction time.

When you say hi, do it with confidence and friendly.

 

[EastWind]

Where're you doing this? Kaufinger/Neuhauser Str.? Mostly rich stuck-up girls, tourists and teen girls there, keep it in mind.

 

[IndianaJoneS]

Hey Eastwind, mostly at Stachus, Marienplatz and nearby places. Honestly, only rich stuck-up girls, but its a good excercise for me ..

Do you street sarge in Munich, too ?

 

[EastWind]

I don't believe in sarging anymore (just like in most things), but I had a brief episode a few years ago when I did that there, too. Never met a girl worth keeping, though.

The girls I get along with stay at home because they're sick of all the idiots out there, just like me.

 

[IndianaJoneS]

27/50

today is a beatiful sunny day.

At first, I hesitate again. I realize, I'm socially programmed, deeply. Even though, I "know" about pickup, I simply hesitate or get frozen when I actually want to talk or simply say hi to a foreign woman.

After some tries it gets easier. The reactions are either ignorance or even sceptic looks of the people I greet. One woman in the subway reacted very positive. She stopped walking when I said hi, looked at me, as if she knew me, thinking about who I am. I just shake my head, laughing and say "no" in a funny way. (I think, I directly could have started talking about smthg).

What I found interesting : where it's difficult to get looks or even a "hi" in return in the inner city, it's kind of normal in the more village like areas, where there are less people.

Mentality :

if I'm hesitant, or not totally sure, if I should do it, I get an adequate reaction. Uncertain or no "hi" by the other person. But, if I'm confident, with a smile in my face and strong voice, I'm more likely to get an hi in return.

I still feel a little awkward doing it, but it gets better. I will extend this excercise beyond week one and make it a normal habit. What is wrong with greeting strangers ?

I even had 2 or 3 conversations. One woman in the street. Asked for directions for ice cafe. Got some ice, came back, she still there. Immediately got into conversation with her about the ice.

 

[IndianaJoneS]

I don't believe in sarging anymore (just like in most things), but I had a brief episode a few years ago when I did that there, too. Never met a girl worth keeping, though.

The girls I get along with stay at home because they're sick of all the idiots out there, just like me.

Ok, I understand. I had mostly very good experiences. But I don't see it as something tricky or so. My goal is authenticity and real growth. Facing my own fears and expanding my comfort zone.

I "sarged" some of my long time girl friends, too =) (3 of them)

("hey, how did you get to know your wife?", "I sarged her with a double your dating opener")

 

[EastWind]

("hey, how did you get to know your wife?", "I sarged her with a double your dating opener")

I had a "girlfriend" (of sorts) for a little while whom I essentially met through a threesome which her friend, who I was doing at the time, convinced her to try. Try answering "how did you meet?" after that...

 

[IndianaJoneS]

my question was just imaginative .. ,)

 

[IndianaJoneS]

32/50.

Did some approaches, too. Still doesnt feel totally easy, but I'm getting better. Did a direct opener ("you are what Im looking for") on a mid-30. Went pretty good!

 

[IndianaJoneS]

50/50.

Still I'm not at ease saying hi to everyone. In villages or less crowded areas it feels somehow normal, but in cities with many people walking around, I feel a little bit strange, especially, if i get no eye contact in advance.

Will make a usual habit out of it.

 

[IndianaJoneS]

week 3 : having 10 conversations with strangers.

 

[IndianaJoneS]

1/10.

I'm focused on situational openers. Don't know why, but I struggle, simply walking up anywhere, saying "hi, I'm ..". Doing a situational opener makes the whole thing more natural for me and more easy. That way, I don't feel, I "force" someone to have a conversation, but offer him/her a cool opportunity to have fun.

 

[GotED?]

German women are mostly heavily masculinized b!tches with a facade of feminimity in the beginning to lure you in.

Don't forget - feminism started in Europe, and foremost, Germany. Practice there but don't get stuck with a German woman unless you have made sure she isn't growing a peenis with envy.