“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Hey guys, I have read Most of the DJB, but i have done absoutly nothing about it, so i decided to take the boot camp to help improve myself and not jus with the girls. I'm guessing u have already gathered that i totally suck at talking to women and i usually avoid talking to anyone at all costs. With confidence and practice i should hope to achieve a don juan because so far all i have been is jus a lazy bum all day, whilst strengthing mr right hand :nono:. If u guys have and comments or advice for me it will be well appreciated.

Anyway enough of my sucky introduction lets do this shiete yippie ka ya mutha f#cker lol.) :D

Week 1

Day 1
I Felt very confident today and i left my home and started to keep eye contact with people. People would look in my eyes and immediately glance down afterwards and some people didn't even look at my eyes at all <btw that use to be me lol.

I then talked to a woman at the game store today whilst i was selling all my PS2 games because well i don't care about that **** any more. I was just giving her advice on what game to buy for her son we talked for a bit, but it was brief and i was kind of put off going for it seeing she was a mother, but i guess that was a big mistake. I talked to some other people today but they were all guys dammit..... I then went swimming and did lot of training that day to, though overall i felt pretty good because usually i wouldn't of talked to anyone.

(Ps. i got £57 for games that i paid a £1000 for all aka $100 for $2000 worth of games, what a total rip, but i wasn't going to use them so its still extra money in my pocket. :up:

Day 2
Today i talked to quite a lot of women, but i was being way to nicey nicey :down: i could hear a deep voice in the back of my mind saying Friend zone (kinda like arcade games when u get game over voice lol), sometimes it even rapped it. I was laughing my head off on the street thinking about how nice i was lol.

So Later on i managed to a few women in my gym, kind of smooth c&f lines, but lacked a follow up and the convo ended briefly. I also went boxing today, which i had not done for 2 whole months although its one of my deepest passions in life. I talked to everyone there and even gave some new comers advice and some stretchs. I was talking to people i usually hardly talked to and trained with them. Overall the day was not that great though because i was thinking i was being way to nice and i got a sweat rash on my thigh from training (i know to much information lol :confused:)

Day 3
Yehh... that sweat rash didn't go away, but although i cudn't train i thought i would try some hi's to strangers i was really nervous to begin with when i started and i said hello to a guy who gave me eye contact and i was suprised he said hello back. I also hello'd another four times i got two smiles (from women) and a response and a ignore (this was by a guy in sun glasses.... note to self do not talk to people with sun glasses).

I later got dissapointed with myself when i went up my friends though, just to keep in touch and i sat down watching them play some stupid game called runescape for a hour, I won't do that again.

I talked to a few other people though like the lunch ladies in BHS and i asked them how much they get paid for there job it was poor and i said "so when r u going to get ur job has a chef in ur own million pound resturant" she laughed, i wudn't say she was a hb, but she was nice and she did let me off the on the breakfast deal after 11:30. Day was bad in terms of walking up streets like a maniac with my rash and wasting time at friends, but good in terms of getting comfortable to talk to people.

Day 4

I done the hi thing again and i talked to seven people and i got 3 responses and 4 ignores, like i care i usually say **** in my head when i get ignored then it gets replaced with good thats 10,11.... It was hard to say hi to people today because i only say hi if people give me eye contact because if they don't they probablly don't want to know me. everyone had i pods, sunglasses, super fast eye contact that lasts a half a second and some people don't even look at u jeez man what wuzzies (ironically i was one of these wuzzies). everyone is isolated from one and another living there life on media and infront of a tv not willing to grab life for all its worth.

Anyway enough of the soppy stuff lol, I later saw a HB7/6 and she had a dog, she was smiling from a distance at me and her dog run straight past me with a ball in its mouth right out the distance further and further and i said to her "he's not coming back" with a smile and she laughed. We talked to eachother, but i didn't keep enough eye contact with her and she took a turn and we said bye to eachother. I didn't try anythink because she was in her 30's, do u guys think i shud of tried something?, u know what stupid question.....

Then when i went home i saw a HB 7 on the bus that smiled at me has she went up, i followed and saw she was sitting in second from front sit and saw the front infront was empty so i was going to ask her why she chose that seat over the front seat ( had a good follow up to), but i choked. :down: I need to make a move tommorow seeing now that i'm way more comfortable with people because it's time to keep improving myself, but guys look on the bright side so far, i have not tried to stregthen my right hand for 4 days now. :D

(ps: Went friends house today and we talked and i did stuff that benifited me, but they shut up and started watching programme on tv, so i left...)
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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alright i will update thread to week 2 day 2 i have been kind of busy and its raining now, so i will make use of my time lol. well just to warn u guys i barely did first week and i wouldn't say it feels i'm improving to much, i kinda have been getting bit depressed a lot, but i snap myself out of it and don't give in to temptation. well here we go.
 

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This day went so badly jeez i only got 5 hi's in, which leaves me with 32 more hi's left.

Also on this day i had this yoga teacher HB 6 helping me more than everybody else in the class. This leaves me with 2 assumptions one she either likes me or two i am extremly bad lol. Well after classed i got talking to her and she said i was pretty good, she was smiling a lot and eye contact was good and she was touching my arm kinoing me a lot, my response was nothing.... that totally sucked the fact she may of liked me is not the point, but that i did nothing showed the total opposite of my goal.

Then after all this day got worst, i went up my friends and his big brother lost it when they were playing a game, whilst i was studying how to drive. He threw the game console on the floor which bounced and smashed in the support of the marble table, this led to my friend fracturing his hand has he punched the wall and then the game getting broken, which led to him getting strangled. Well i stayed there, but to b honest i don't think i was really needed. I used to distance myself from everyone including friends an family, so they could not hold me back. That was wrong, but i still believe i'm better off with out them seeing they r kinda ****s and when i'm around they jus sit watching tv and play games on there computer. I think i should only make time for people who make time for me. I'm sorry for the essay jeez lol
 

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After the other day i felt kinda crappy, but i got myself up and trained a bit. I knew i was low on my hi's and had to step up my game i started saying hi to 4 people has i walked down street. Then i went to train on my bike round park where i said hi to another 13 people, which my response rate was 70-80%. apart from two asians chicks that looked completly freeked has i hello'd them both. THANKS A LOT.

Later i went round asking places for jobs found a few places with vaccancies and i was pretty sweet with some of the girls, i think the hand shake when ur palm is facing pretty downward worked wonders, i could kind of feel it worked and got nice eye contact and a smile from both girls i tried it with. I tried to apply to a chinese medicine shop, she said only chinese people, idc thats racist lol, but in a way i can see why it would be like that.
 

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This day was pretty bad i got decent training done and said 2 hi' in they day. it was 9 pm and i had 13 more hi's to go to keep in the bootcamp. It was very dark and raining and i had my hood up and everythink. I managed to dig my courage up and started it. I hi'd about 8 people off the street where my response rate was 10%, which in the conditions i am not suprised. I had 5 more to do has i went home, so i hi'd 5 people on the bus has i managed to catch it jus barely. i was relieved, but it was a bit dodgy, sloppy and not to don juan.


Wow i didn't type this much for this day even though it was the last lol.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Dude, ever heard of Gold Bond? Get the extra-medicated. At any rate, you are taking positive steps in the right direction to actively change your life for the better. I respect you for that. Keep your head up, and learn from every encounter. Each approach brings you one step closer to a new reality. The more you approach, the more confident you will become. That new-found confidence will permeate every aspect of your life, and you'll notice that instead of trying to *act* confident, you really *are* confident. That confidence will shine through (how can it NOT? and that is what is attractive to women. I'm working on it too bro. We're all here to help each other. Sarge on brother.

Respect.
 

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thats awesome..your heading in the right direction..one day at a time....remember its ok to get rejected
 

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Week 2

Day 1
Task this week is to to strike 2-10 min convo with strangers, all the convos i wouldn't class in this category because i would talk to them 1 min and then later on talk to them for about 8 mins so i wouldn't say they would b strangers then. Well anyway today i felt pretty good i was at swimming and in locker room and i was chatting to all different guys i rarely speack to, i could see a glimpse of my full potential i was chatting to loads of people and people also wanted to talk me, when i'm usually quiet minding my own business.

There was this other chick in a gym class and she was pretty anxious always moving showing a fast girl maybe. Anyway she striked a convo with me two times and i was pretty poor. She saw these little things on ceiling that were like fake spiders and asked me if they were real. i said why r u scared of spiders she said if they r i'm out of here and i said yeh they come down on u and crawl on u while u train (this would been really good kino time to imitate crawling on her shoulder, but i screwed up). Anyway i talked to some HB 5's which later both strike a convo with me, i was ok, but i still have lot of improvement to work on.
 

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Hm today was crappy, dam so many girls to strike convo with and i choked so many times. i would say i got 1 convo though today, i found this quite old lady timming bushes in park and asked her about her job and stuff she was pretty nice, idk about time, i didn't time it, but maybe between 2-5 mins.
well lets look what i need to do for future:

1. grow some bigger balls and live in moment.
2. don't think to much about specific girls, it would be like putting on pedestal.
3. take bigger risks.
4. don't bother with people who waste my time.
5. improve, improve, improve.
 

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I will update the thread when i get some more time and thanks for the input guys.

ps. Looked at gold bond on google its a skin care product, if i see some in a store i will take a look at it, but i'm pretty careful with my money now.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Ah well today was bit of improvement, but I still need lot of work. I got talking to 2 different people for bout 2-5 mins. first one was a guy sweeping leafs so i said this job must be pretty easy in summer time he replied and showed positive response and he was pretty friendly and he started complaining about the polish working at lower rates lol. Then later i saw a hb 5 she was in her late 40's sitting on park bench with her dog bouncing all over the place, so i commented on her dog and she was pretty friendly 2. so thats 3/10 2-10 mins convos.

Ok now for the bad parts.... i saw a hb 7 at decathlon and i stalled for 3 mins looking at the boxing equipment, but i managed to push the courage to talk to her. i said hello and started talking to her about her job she smiled a bit, but i felt bad vibe by looking at her more closely has she squinted a lot and she said she couldn't really understand english. it lasted for less than 2 mins, but i think maybe my voice was not deep enough and i should of approached her straight away because i had good follow up for convo while she was at desk, i think i may of got more of positive response.

i also saw a chick running and i said somebody is enjoying her run isn't she. i feel like i want to shoot myself hearing that line lol, but i think lines matter on circumstances. Like if u attack the shield with full frontal attack on cold approaches it might not always go well (at least not for me at the time being lol), but if u maybe sneack through it with a hello and whats ur name u might then b able to attack it from the inside :kick: . Some people r jus not social though and circumstances like at night time people would probablly think u will mug them if u approached. Anyway when i f up i usually say f in my head and then go ok what did i do wrong and how can i improve, so i like that way i'm thinking now, but i bottled it on some hb's 7+ on the bus. Jeez i need to work on that.

What i think i need to work on though is my voice, usually 70% of the time people ask me to repeat myself, by doing the excercises senor fingers said and focusing on it i managed to reduce it to 30%. if any people know any advice in this area it would be appreciated, but it could be to do with my confidence seeing i felt pretty confident at times today.

ps. dam i tried to do this day briefly, but i guess i scrw'd up. lol :rolleyes:
 

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well i'm not getting it anymore, but i do need some special stuff if it happens again, because it takes u off training for quite a while.

Well its pretty early and i injured my foot and got a bus here, so i guess that means time to update the thread to week 2 day 6 lol. I think i have been lacking on socialising with girl side dam had so many opportunities, but then again sometimes i went for some.
 

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this day went good to begin with and i learned some new things, but it later went downhill after. i started off the by saying hi to a few grannys lol. Then i noticed something about the receptionist at my gym and what i did. About 1 week ago when i first started this, i started making convos with everybody i never did before and i talked to her asking her about her accent and everythink and showed my interest. Then about 4 days later i saw her and felt the need to talk to her, but i didn't like the need, she is just a girl, i don't need to give her extra attention than everyone else. I changed my approach the next times i came there, i just asked her to get me reciept for class and nothing else. She then started making convos with me a lot and she does this everytime. I realised i sent her mixed signals, i first showed my interest to begin with then lost it completly, which made her wonder what happened. Just something i learned in field and i also thought u guys might wanna know.

Anyways i got the reciept for aerobics class and went and i got there early and there was a HB 5/6 there. i smiled and said hello and started talking to her about the class and added a bit of c&f, then she told me she was swedish and i got her to say somethings in swedish. then she mentioned she had a husband, not like that, but in convo like she came here with her husband ( i guess when they mention husband it is red light lol). this is 4/10 for convos.


Then after this i felt the need to talk to people i made new connections with, which was desperate. Then this effected my talking with people the whole day because i feared that i would lose my new connections. Then later that night i told myself i didn't have nothing to fear if i lost my connections, so what i will make new ones. I have no need to limit my convosations with the people i only know, it felt like my restraints were released.
 
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My body was pretty injured today, so i didn't train to much. I was swimming in the pool and i saw some HB 7 keep looking at me on the other end. She was always swimming so i didn't approach, but then she was exercising and bouncing like a bunny attempting to keep her bra swim wear thing on lol. I said hello to her and asked her name with a smile, she smiled back and said natasha (hand shake with my palm facing downwards and hers upwards) i asked why she was bouncing up and down like that and she moved closer and told me she was exercising. I then talked a bit with some c&f and then asked her how long she was swimming for she said one hour and i noticed her hands didn't have wrinkle things on it. I said it to her and holded her hand and pointed and asked her why she didn't have them and she moved closer and put a bit of her foot on mine whilst she told me ( i don't know if it was sub concious or not). anyways i asked her how old she was and she said....... older than u with smile, then she said guess i said 40 lol she was shocked and i said hm really 27 and i got it right. I had to leave because my swimming class was on so i said bye and i didn't think of number close and well i didn't have pen or paper anyway.

This proved the theory of sneacking through defences with a hello and whats ur name before u say what u r thinking about, but then again sometimes it works. I think i could of handled age comment better when she said older than u, maybe something like can u really know that for definite. I know i will get this again, how do u past that test when chick mentions age difference?

Then after this i was talking briefly to few guys in locker room and started talking to some guy in the shower for about 5-7 mins. This gives me 6/10 convos.

Just before the end of day i took a yoga class to help injury and spoke to a HB 6 for a min because i couldn't really c anything else to talk about. I think i froze when i saw a chick on the bus again, ugh really need to work on bus chicks, maybe jus sit next to them and say hello and ask there name, then comment on something i noticed.
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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This day i went gym and saw some girls from my past i said hey and didn't give them that much attention, because well it would of jus come desperate and i will most likely see them again. It was a sunday and not much was going on and loads of people were wearing sunglasses and were usually with people, which made it difficult, but i'm still dissapointed i didn't initiate much convo today :nono: . I was cycling in the park and there was a group of four girls sitting, one was seriously eying me with a smile, but i did nothing jeez...., i saw other oppurtunitys, but i messed them up to. confidence fell today. I was able to bring enough confidence to talk to some guy training in park and i trained with him and chatted and learnt some new training techniques (7/10, 2-10 min convos). Then talked to think of anythink else to say so i ended it.

The most dissapointing thing today is a girl i saw at bus stop she made eye contact for quite a while, but i didn't approach she was in a very short mini skirt at the middle of night. I should of said hello whats ur name and asked her was she cold in that, but i messed up and froze. I guess i have to increase my confidence tommorow seeing i need 3 more.

anway this took me quite a while, ugh why did i have to write so much lol.

Aright i'm outta here, i will update when i have more time. (end on favourite smiley) :D
 

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Wow i nearly didn't do it, but i managed to finish it at 11:03 pm. (sorry guys if this is long post lol, but jus thought u wud wanna know how i attemtped 3 more 2-10 min convos, but failed about 7 times)

I needed 3 convos today 3 mins, this day totally sucked it was bank holiday, boxing was closed and gym, which ment i had to get my 3 convos in cold approaches. first one was easy i saw HB 5 and she worked at paddy power and she was smoking outide, so i went up and talked to and got a 3-5 min convo with her jus before i went my friends.

Then i went park at 6 pm, started talking to people, first guy was on rollerblades, this didn't go well becuse if i kept talking it wud of felt uncomfortable so i ended it. Then i saw HB 6 in roller blades and she was standing there so i said hey, whats ur name. She said heather with big smile and i replyed arn't u suppose to actually b moving in those with a smile. Anyway convo lasted about 1 min before she said i'm jus waiting for my bf who is running (saw him in background), so i said alright then i guess i better go it was nice meeting u. Next talked to a granny for a minute, but i felt she was hitting on me, she wanted to feel my hands because when i shaked her hand they were cold and i didn't like her kinoing me so much, so i politely left lol. Then saw guy leaving car and started chatting to him, but his house was close, so it didn't last more than 2 minutes. Still need 2 jeez, then it happened again the bus talked to a guy 30 seconds later he got off.

I was at home and it was 10 pm and i was losing hope. Then i said **** it and went out on street. i saw some girl in mini skirt in high heels (she looked like a prostitute) I said hello to her and she blanked me....., i guess i would of done better offering her 5 pound lol :D . I was giving up hope , then i saw guy cleaning road and i asked him why he was doing night shift, we talked for 3-4 mins, then i talked to some guy who missed bus for little while, but not long enough. One more convo i needed. I got on top of bus and there were a group of 4 people talking with a HB 6 with nice legs stretched out on the bus lol and i started talking to her and we got off same stop and i was talking to group till we part r ways.

guess lesson today is just to go for it if u get rejected, blanked or not, either way u feel good at end and also not to leave things to last minute in both cases.
 

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Hm jus so u guys know, i could of done more today, but i guess my ego got ahead of me at the start :rolleyes: , which i had to snap myself out of lol. Anyways i did some new things and learned a few things. Alright at the start the HB 7 yoga teacher that showed interest with me last week, i screwed up on. At the start of class i showed to much interest and well she lost it from what i noticed and i didn't number close because i didn't think she had enough interest, seeing it was her last day i should of went for it though. What i should of done was not show her no interest at start of class and then at end she wud probablly show interest and talk like last time or i cud talk to her.

I also noticed today my social skills have improved tremendously like on week 2 i noticed i could say hi to anyone jus like that without the thought about it. Similarily today i could start convos with any strangers at ease, i think i had 6 2-10 min convos todays with loads of mini ones, which last week i struggled doing in like 5 days.

I talked to a HB 6 for 2-10 mins, but she was introduced to me, so i didn't include it. I also talked to some girls, but not the type i would date, so they were also not included. However after my gym class i saw HB 6 stretching afterwards. She was doing crab and all these other neat moves, so i started with my hello whats ur name with special handshake approach. Then i said was she a ballerina or cheerleader or something and she told me she use to be a cheerleader in comlumbia and she wasn't to good with english, but we had bit of fun. She was ready to leave and i said wait one second and got my wallet out (had piece of paper and pencil inside):

me: ur going now yeh
her: yes, i'm going to swimming pool now
me: o ok let me call u sometime, whats ur number....... (looking at wallet has i try to get paper)
her: o no no (smile), my boyfriend is waiting for me in swimming pool
me: (smile) o alright nevermind then (special hand shake) c ya later

ok she had a bf, but still i cud of improved my chances with getting that number. this is what i think i should of done:

1.Should of handed paper to her has i said it
2.Should of maintained deep eye contact with smile has i said it
3.Should of remembered her name and said it has i said let me give u a call lol
4.Should of still went for it even if she said she had a bf, maybe should of said something like: o whens there wedding, she probablly would of said no wedding, then i could of said it can't b that serious then.

U know wat though, that rejection didn't effect me at all i didn't care ( Even if she did lie about having a bf or not). The last time i number closed it was a disastor ugh it was so bad it's insanely funny lol.

anyway guys i guess thats 1/10. :up:
 

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I guess i have to post the bad days has well has the good, but instead of complaining i will try to see how i can put myself straight again. Today i got a infection on my thumb, so i didn't want to train my hands. I remember i wasn't very social, like i started a convo with some chick at bus stop and i just left it, I didn't talk to anybody else when there were oppurtunitys whilst i was walking and cycling in park. Then after this i was talking to some chick on messenger and i was talking to her all night, which then later screws up day 3 because i got up so dam late. This day was also screwed up due to fantasyising, ego trips, and pedestal and getting attached to certain women.

aright lets see what i can do, for one i should try to keep my convo going instead of giving up, because its easier. Next i should seize every oppurtunity i see and i will probablly f up, freaking guarnteed at this stage, but thats not the part, it the only way i will learn. get to bed early. Stop fantasying about future and past and live in moment. lose the ego, theres pride, but then theres arrogance. i will talk about pedestalling in next post because that was big prob next day, I shouldn't b getting attached to women though, theres plenty of them out there i shouldn't b thinking about any specifically to much.
 

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Day 3
jeez another f up, woke up late,which kind of spoiled day. I went to get prescritpion from the doctors for thumb, where i saw a HB 8, i bottled it and sat down and for those long 30 min i kept thinking about saying something, i looked at my hands they were shaking and i was like omdz. I realised what happened in the later exercises i didn't talk to much to women like this before and it worked against me....i, i put them on a pedestal :eek:. I had nice convo i thought with her to, i was such a afc at this point, i came so far and i was acting like this. Later on i got on my bike and rode to the park and i saw a few Hb 7+ and i said hello got blanked by every one of them. hmmm...

So either a its me or b its them or c its both. These chicks either get approached by strangers everyday and have shields up or maybe i wasn't has confident. I went to a step class which had like loads of women there and i said hello to this HB 7+ she smiled, but kind of a antisocial smile. I started getting angry in the class and was clumsy, nearly tripped and everythink. I don't think i was setting positive look to girls there, i could tell.

right now how can i solve this, i have to talk to 9 chicks who r most likely HB 7+ in 3-4 days (going on trip on monday). I guess there is only one way b more social with everyone, build momentum that could help. Then when ever a opporutunity comes up seize it, i will probablly end up looking stupid, but second time i would probablly look less and less. i think this is the biggest hurdle for me and HB 7+ seem like real *****s.
 

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