FlexpertHamilton
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Then add Meditations by Marcus Aurelius
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
DarwinTaurus
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Great book, I own a copy.
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Presumably these were tomes written before he degenerated into a real life version of Billy Madison https://www.youtube.com/live/BdS5klAgQrw?si=jznM2_Xklk9OyMYi
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From the bar to the bedroom https://www.amazon.com/AskMen-com-Presents-Bar-Bedroom-Pleasuring/dp/0061208523
Undateable https://www.amazon.com/Undateable-Things-Guarantee-Dating-Having/dp/034552067X
Undateable https://www.amazon.com/Undateable-Things-Guarantee-Dating-Having/dp/034552067X
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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Is the point of reading all of these books to have more to talk about with women, or simply to entertain ourselves?
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FlexpertHamilton
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Maybe they are but they're not enough unless your only single goal in life is to theorize about women and self-development. The fact that Meditations or a single work of philosophy or evolutionary psychology still isn't on there ruins the credibility and I'll keep repeating that.
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I'd add this one
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Is the point of reading non PUA/game/dating books to have things to talk with women about?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.