"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Rumpelstiltskin said:
"Emerging Viruses - Aids % Ebola" by Lenoard Horowitz

"The Creature From Jekyl Island - A Second Look At The Federal Reserve" by Edward Griffin"
Jesus Christ, you're a morbid fvck aren't you? Do you read the New England Journal of Medicine on the sh!tter?
 

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No thanks. I'll stick to Iron Man and Spawn picture books. If I need a hanckering for solemnity I'll ask you to recite some Yeats.

Why beat yourself down with sh!t that'll ruin your day? If that's the reality you want have at it. I like sunshine in my day; Pvssy, sushi and Quentin Tarantino flicks.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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KarmaSutra said:
No thanks. I'll stick to Iron Man and Spawn picture books. If I need a hanckering for solemnity I'll ask you to recite some Yeats.

Why beat yourself down with sh!t that'll ruin your day? If that's the reality you want have at it. I like sunshine in my day; Pvssy, sushi and Quentin Tarantino flicks.
"Reality" is not a "want" - it "Is' what "It is'"! - you are delusional and live in a fantasy world!

Truth is good and lies are bad - simple!
 

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blackbelt2k said:
I really like black comedy books, look up Kurt Voneguith
Seconded. The spelling is Kurt Vonnegut, and he's awesome.

Labyrinths by Jorge Luis Borges is my favourite book, it's a collection of strange short stories about time, the infinite, minotaurs, etc.

People tend to enjoy The Diceman too. Read that.
 

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'Into the Wild' by Jon Krakauer.

Absolutely stunning book. I'm a big reader, and this one is among the best I've ever picked up.

It has resemblances to Fight Club, in it's idealistic simplicity, and anti-society views.

I believe it's coming out as a movie in september, but as you know, books are better than the big screen.
 

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Zerix said:
Blasphemy!

Sorry bro, but that movie was a snoozer. The reviews were like, "This movie will change the course of your life." HOW?! I'm not dropping acid and don't plan on doing it anytime soon.

Seriously, wtf was all that bulls.hit?! Some dude meets this creepy old man in some 4th demension and he trains him to do some magical, Chriss Angel s.hit?! Don't tell me you believe you can do that stuff? Gimme a break! I'll tell you what the f.uck it was. It was a dude who had a career threatening accident, beat the odds and healed, because of it, he examined his life and realized he was taking it for granted, and Hollywood decided to throw some extra s.hit in there to make it different from the millions of other stories that are exactly the same.
 

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Rumpelstiltskin said:
"Reality" is not a "want" - it "Is' what "It is'"! - you are delusional and live in a fantasy world!

Truth is good and lies are bad - simple!
Yeah but in my "fantasy" world I get laid.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I don't like Kurt Vonnegut, his stories arnt really engaging, and I know im just 16, but I do have a more mature mindset. I read Slaughter-House Five. Mabye his other books are better but I don't like his style of writing.
 

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ValleyDJing said:
Sorry bro, but that movie was a snoozer. The reviews were like, "This movie will change the course of your life." HOW?! I'm not dropping acid and don't plan on doing it anytime soon.

Seriously, wtf was all that bulls.hit?! Some dude meets this creepy old man in some 4th demension and he trains him to do some magical, Chriss Angel s.hit?! Don't tell me you believe you can do that stuff? Gimme a break! I'll tell you what the f.uck it was. It was a dude who had a career threatening accident, beat the odds and healed, because of it, he examined his life and realized he was taking it for granted, and Hollywood decided to throw some extra s.hit in there to make it different from the millions of other stories that are exactly the same.
I don't know, I really enjoyed it, and I keep thinking about it. In fact I'm gonna buy it on DVD and watch it a 2nd time. It is based on a true story by the way. Dan Millman does exist and he has plenty of books, some that are really recommended.
 

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Well it was a true story in the sense that an olympic hopeful broke his leg in a motorcycle accident, was told he'd never walk again, but went on to not only walk again, but compete as a gymnist. As for all that weird paranormal stuff...I'm sure that was all Hollywood. And without that Hollywood stuff, its just another story of perserverance. Don't get me wrong, its great that the dude beat the odds and went on to have a successful life, but that sort of thing happens all the time and quite frankly I'm getting kinda bored with these cliche stories. But to each his own.
 

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Does anyone have that Tucker Max book by any chance (pdf file; e-book) ?
 

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Does anyone have that Tucker Max book by any chance (pdf file; e-book) ?

You can actually read a lot of his stuff at his website. His book does have some stuff his website doesn't and his website has a lot of stuff his book doesn't. Check it out.

http://www.tuckermax.com/
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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ValleyDJing said:
You can actually read a lot of his stuff at his website. His book does have some stuff his website doesn't and his website has a lot of stuff his book doesn't. Check it out.

http://www.tuckermax.com/
Oh man, just realized there were more stories than just what's listed on the front page, hah, thanks. How big is his book though, quiet interested in buying it.
 

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Oh man, just realized there were more stories than just what's listed on the front page, hah, thanks. How big is his book though, quiet interested in buying it.
Its about 270 pgs. Like I said though, a lot of the stories in there can be read on his website, but his book does have a handful of stories his website doesn't. He's coming out with another book this fall too.
 

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Sex Drugs and Coco Puffs by Chuck Klosterman. Where else will you read about the existentialism of "The Sims"?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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