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Hi everyone. Just intoducing myself. I've been slowly working on my game for the last few years. A couple months ago, I decided to man up and get back into it full tilt. So here I am on the board.

I've learned a lot - about being a challenge, getting rid of the inner AFC, etc. I have confidence in my abilities, but there's always room to improve. So rather than repeat the threads I've seen about subjects like "Should I call her?", I'm going to ask some questions that are a little different.


1.Seems to me that non-freshman girls in college are the most difficult to get. In high school and freshman year, they are easy. Also, it seems like older women are much easier, too. For those of you out of college - do you agree?

2. I need to find a better balance with push-pull. Judging by girls reactions, my negs can be a bit harsh. Half the time they work great and they pretend to take offense, and half the time they seem honestly offended. Now I don't particularly care that I offended them, but I can come off as an a**hole and that does not help out my game. How often do you Master DJ's neg? I've also found that the less confident a girl seems, the less negging she should get.

3. This last one is about my conversations with girls. Sometimes when I can't think up anything on the fly, I meet a new girl and our conversation ends up being like an interview. I do just fine at not letting any awkwardness in there, but asking all about her does not create attraction, and doesn't lead her to say much. Any tips here?

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Hey man great name, been a fan since childhood.

For what its worth I will help address your questions. I don’t provide solid answers as I’m still learning myself. I wasn’t as AFC when I first came here, but that could be attributed to wisdom with age. I can however share my own experiences….

1. As for college girls yes they “tend” to be easier in the early college years from my experience back then. They are in a new place and away from home, they feel liberated to “be themselves” and enjoy the new experiences. They want laid as much as you in those halcyon days. Older women are either seeking the attention they no longer get, making them AH. Or they are back in the game so to speak, with years of experience to draw upon. I have had older women approach me, initiate conversations and stare me down more then their younger ilk. This does NOT make them easy, it makes them…..a game, you’re either played or you do the playing. If you’re not experienced be careful with cougars.

2. Neg hitting (as this community calls it) is a subtle art. I prefer to think of it as sparing. Imagine 2 boxers circling each other in the ring. The first round is about moving carefully around your opponent and throwing a few “feeler” swings to judge reaction. You must look for clues and pay attention to the things she says or may do that you can use. Women love to talk, use it as a tool. For example: A girl and I were talking at a friend’s party once. She made some passing comment that she didn’t like color of her finger nail polish and had no time to go get another. So I immediately took a swing of my beer, looked away and said; “Frankly I’m surprised you even left the house in that color”. It got kino right away as she slapped and held her hand on my chest and laughed. Pay attention to the conversation, and use it. Practice your delivery as well, it can be the difference between sparing and war.

3. Lead the conversation more, don’t ask and wait. Ask questions that require more than a yes or no answer. Ask questions that are multipart. Don’t quiz her so much as squeeze info out from questions that “dance” around the main point. If shes hip, she’ll play along and do it back to you.

Goodluck man, hope my experiences help.

-Happy trails
 

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attractive girls will always be having sex....their tastes may shift as they grow and it looks like they have changed since high school and you have not??

neg hits like gunslinger mentioned are one of the many ways a girl will know how you view her... but you actually believing you have the same value as the girl will cause your speech and physical escalation to do so naturally.

neg hits can sometimes help drag on some cold approaches though

as far as talking goes the important thing to do is keep the fun factor through the roof by having fun yourself

a good pickup is keeping the interaction light and fun....i wouldn't ask any questions about her unless the conversation leads you there naturally...also don't bring up relationships dating unless you know how to do so

practice will lead to an ability to make the best of any situation
 

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Great, thanks a lot guys. Each of you brought up something that help me understand the answers to my questions. :)

Cheers
 

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ok, i love ur name. fan of his persona.

anyways, i would be very rude and curt and to the point. u might feel bad but i would suggest u to just give it a thought before u dismiss it. okay?

i m not saying u r an AFC but i can surely say u r still not experienced enough. i mean experience of either failures or successes with girls. u need to get out more into the field if u really want to improve. u still need to work a lot on ur inner game and try out methods to improve ur self-esteem. u need to maintain the image of a 10, not a 4 or 5. u started out in the post itself in a tone of bragging which is a way of qualifying yourself to others. remember u r the prize of the group and others qualify themselves to u.

to ur questions,

i don't care about attraction. value = attraction. if you have enough value, then she will be attracted. no worries about that. but, the energy should be right, the vibe between you two. that should always be maintained in teh interaction because it makes for the other factors like attraction, comfort and seduction to happen. very theoritical but just keep in mind, as long as you both don't vibe really well, you can't game a girl.

negging, is a form of disqualifying her. qualifying and disqualifying ehr is what you have to keep doing during the whole time. so, negging is done as long as you are with her. simple.
 

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schttrj said:
anyways, i would be very rude and curt and to the point. u might feel bad but i would suggest u to just give it a thought before u dismiss it. okay?
Don't worry about it. I'm here to get honest opinions, not subtle hinting.

I agree. I definitely need more experience.

However, I don't see "I'm not an AFC" as bragging. Maybe this is something other people pick up on too. Inner game is my top priority at this point.
 
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