"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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On the standard BMI chart (body mass index) it says I am overweight at 6-3 210 but do bodybuilders or powerlifters go by this type of index chart as muscle would end up gaining us more weight correct and isn't muscle more healthy than fat of coarse it is.

So how do we as weight training individuals measure our body mass as healthy or unhealthy?

Anyway, want to weigh in on this.

LoneSilver
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The reason you said, that muscle hypertrophy results in added weight, is just one reason why BMI is crap in general. Your BMI figure shows nothing about your body composition - you can be very underweight and be skinny-fat and unhealthy. Whereas on the other hand, you can be 250lbs at 11% bf and very healthy :)

Your body fat percentage is a more accurate measure of your body's condition, but again, that's not absolute either...You can obviously be 6% and be about to drop dead.

The BMI scale is very very rough. Do you feel healthy? Yup, good. Do you look good and healthy? Yup, awesome. :)

Anyway, want to weigh in on this.
lol, no pun intended :up:

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LoneSilver said:
On the standard BMI chart (body mass index) it says I am overweight at 6-3 210 but do bodybuilders or powerlifters go by this type of index chart as muscle would end up gaining us more weight correct and isn't muscle more healthy than fat of coarse it is.

So how do we as weight training individuals measure our body mass as healthy or unhealthy?

Anyway, want to weigh in on this.

LoneSilver
Measure your bodyfat with a caliper. Anything above 18% for a man is because he is fat (not necessarly unhealthy) and anything below 10% is bad for long amounts of times, cause your hormones are shot to hell.
 

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Measure your bodyfat with a caliper. Anything above 18% for a man is because he is fat (not necessarly unhealthy) and anything below 10% is bad for long amounts of times, cause your hormones are shot to hell.
Well..I've never heard anyone say they felt their hormones were out of whack when they were at low body fat percentages, but perhaps..I was around 10%, but I've found that hard to maintain now that I've started training+eating, so it's probably gone up a bit. I definitely still felt horny etc when I was at <10% for quite a while..

Not meaning to hijack the thread completely, but does anyone else find it hard to keep <11% body fat when they're eating+training?

-shaun
 

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Thanks for the posts.

I was thinking the same thing on these charts as they don't mention muscle or anything like that to offset any score when measuring a persons mass.

Makes all the sense in the world.

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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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LoneSilver said:
Thanks for the posts.

I was thinking the same thing on these charts as they don't mention muscle or anything like that to offset any score when measuring a persons mass.

Makes all the sense in the world.

LoneSilver
Understand that the BMI was created to measure obesity. It wasn't geared toward athletes or people who were generally fit (better than average health wise).
 

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Nobody should use the BMI to measure anything. Since it divides weight by height, and doesn't distinguish between muscle, bodyfat, and water, it's useless.

Bodyfat % is infinitely more important, but also very difficult to measure, hence the popularity of the (useless) BMI. It's part of the focus on "losing weight" which drives all sorts of unhealthy behaviors that would be better geared at building muscle & losing bodyfat in a sane way.
 

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Buster Davis is 5'9 244lbs. He's extremely well built. His BMI is over 35. I wouldn't ever call him fat. He's an animal.


BMI means nothing to athletes.
 
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