Die Hard
Master Don Juan
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Has any of you seen this movie? I just watched it and it made quite an impression on me... It stars Ryan Gosling, the lead actor from that movie 'Drive'.
On the one hand, it shows a couple falling in love. We get to see how they meet each other, how the guy picks her up, how they enter the 'honeymoon phase'. I really liked the way this was all portrayed, because it is done very realistically and it made me think of many, many different things and topics that we talk about on SoSuave all the time.
It's all one big 'field report' with lots of details and I found myself analyzing the guy's behavior, what he did right or wrong when he tried to pick her up. But I also analyzed the girl and could imagine what things about her would attract me if I was in his situation, as well as picking up a few red flags from her etc.
It's just very interesting to see all the details in their interaction and how they move forward from their initial meeting into a relationship, and eventually into a marriage.
On the other hand, we get to see this same couple a few years later, when they're married and have a young daughter. Their marriage is failing and despite them trying to safe it, we can see how that is actually quite pointless. At one point, they have a conversation about their relationship, about the past, what they wanted out of life when they got together etc. And we can just see how their marriage was kinda doomed from the beginning. At least, with the knowledge that we all share here, most of us would be able to clearly point out all the signs...
At the same time, it is all soooo recognizable and I could still identify myself with the guy in many regards. Coz he isn't acting like a giant, obvious AFC or anything. That's why I could identify with him, he is not a perfect DJ but he isn't a total AFC either. In other words, he is what many of us are....
He did everything quite smoothly when he approached the girl, I really liked watching him doing that, it put a smile on my face. He was taking the lead, putting game on her, doing very well. But as their relationship progressed, he started slipping, got oneitis and fell into the traps that we all try to warn each other about.
We all know how easy it is to be in control and play our cards right in the beginning, but the real game only starts when you progress into a LTR, that's when you really get tested and many of us will make mistakes there. Personally, I don't think I would have made certain mistakes that the main guy makes and he is clearly plugged into the matrix, but I could still identify with him and I guess many of us here will...
The nice thing about these two stories (how they met, fell in love and married on the one hand, and how their relationship slowly moved towards its end on the other hand), is that they're told in a non-chronological way. One moment we see a flashback from their 'honeymoon phase', the next moment we see a scene during the end of their relatonship. It creates a strong contrast. One most of us see when we look back on our relationships in hindsight, but can't see as we're "in the moment". At one point, you are thinking about how to handle the fact that she hasn't responded to your text yet. At some other point, you are thinking about how to fix the relationship. So what happened in the months between those two moments? We're often not aware of it all as it happens, only in hindsight. I thought it was very clever of the movie to show this contrast so strongly.
Anyway, it's all done very realistic: the story, their thoughts, their interactions....I loved the acting, the look in their eyes, the way they talk, the body language and everything. I had a lot of moments where I thought to myself "I've been there, in that exact situation..." whether it was in the honeymoon phase or later on, and the movie/actors portrayed those situations very realistically. At the same time, the movie finds a good balance in doing this without becoming tedious or overly dramatic. Each scene makes its point without being stretched out too long or anything.
I know there are other movies like this, 500 days of summer etc. but this one really hit me coz it was all portrayed so realistically and there was so much attention for detail. On top of that, it was all very serious, no humor. Quite a heavy movie and a sad story but it serves as a powerful warning.
I sometimes read stories on here about guys who went through failed LTR's or marriages and try to internalize those stories so I won't make the same mistakes. But seeing it all being played out in such a realistic way in a movie, it just made a big impression on me.
Go see it if you have nothing else to do
On the one hand, it shows a couple falling in love. We get to see how they meet each other, how the guy picks her up, how they enter the 'honeymoon phase'. I really liked the way this was all portrayed, because it is done very realistically and it made me think of many, many different things and topics that we talk about on SoSuave all the time.
It's all one big 'field report' with lots of details and I found myself analyzing the guy's behavior, what he did right or wrong when he tried to pick her up. But I also analyzed the girl and could imagine what things about her would attract me if I was in his situation, as well as picking up a few red flags from her etc.
It's just very interesting to see all the details in their interaction and how they move forward from their initial meeting into a relationship, and eventually into a marriage.
On the other hand, we get to see this same couple a few years later, when they're married and have a young daughter. Their marriage is failing and despite them trying to safe it, we can see how that is actually quite pointless. At one point, they have a conversation about their relationship, about the past, what they wanted out of life when they got together etc. And we can just see how their marriage was kinda doomed from the beginning. At least, with the knowledge that we all share here, most of us would be able to clearly point out all the signs...
At the same time, it is all soooo recognizable and I could still identify myself with the guy in many regards. Coz he isn't acting like a giant, obvious AFC or anything. That's why I could identify with him, he is not a perfect DJ but he isn't a total AFC either. In other words, he is what many of us are....
He did everything quite smoothly when he approached the girl, I really liked watching him doing that, it put a smile on my face. He was taking the lead, putting game on her, doing very well. But as their relationship progressed, he started slipping, got oneitis and fell into the traps that we all try to warn each other about.
We all know how easy it is to be in control and play our cards right in the beginning, but the real game only starts when you progress into a LTR, that's when you really get tested and many of us will make mistakes there. Personally, I don't think I would have made certain mistakes that the main guy makes and he is clearly plugged into the matrix, but I could still identify with him and I guess many of us here will...
The nice thing about these two stories (how they met, fell in love and married on the one hand, and how their relationship slowly moved towards its end on the other hand), is that they're told in a non-chronological way. One moment we see a flashback from their 'honeymoon phase', the next moment we see a scene during the end of their relatonship. It creates a strong contrast. One most of us see when we look back on our relationships in hindsight, but can't see as we're "in the moment". At one point, you are thinking about how to handle the fact that she hasn't responded to your text yet. At some other point, you are thinking about how to fix the relationship. So what happened in the months between those two moments? We're often not aware of it all as it happens, only in hindsight. I thought it was very clever of the movie to show this contrast so strongly.
Anyway, it's all done very realistic: the story, their thoughts, their interactions....I loved the acting, the look in their eyes, the way they talk, the body language and everything. I had a lot of moments where I thought to myself "I've been there, in that exact situation..." whether it was in the honeymoon phase or later on, and the movie/actors portrayed those situations very realistically. At the same time, the movie finds a good balance in doing this without becoming tedious or overly dramatic. Each scene makes its point without being stretched out too long or anything.
I know there are other movies like this, 500 days of summer etc. but this one really hit me coz it was all portrayed so realistically and there was so much attention for detail. On top of that, it was all very serious, no humor. Quite a heavy movie and a sad story but it serves as a powerful warning.
I sometimes read stories on here about guys who went through failed LTR's or marriages and try to internalize those stories so I won't make the same mistakes. But seeing it all being played out in such a realistic way in a movie, it just made a big impression on me.
Go see it if you have nothing else to do
