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She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

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****blocked by girl's folks and sister in church. please help.

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gday mates

3 more days till the end of my final term papers!!! whooop dee doo.

alright, here's the beef

last sunday i had the chance of sitting next to this HB8 in church. she was with her sister and her folks. so i couldn't really start talking to her, firstly because it was a church, and she was talking to her sister and her folks were just next to them.

i waited for a chance to open after church, but she was still engrossed in talking to her sister. and i was thinking, if i started talking to her, and asked for her number, her sister who was obviously ugly, would feel fvcking inferior and i would be seen as making her feel like "the ugly duckling" as i didnt ask for her number, and she'd definitely discorage her sister from going out with me as a result.

so i need some ideas on how to start talking to her, and to solve the problem of the sister and folks ****block.

and if anyone had a good starting subject to open a conversation in church with her, that'd be excellent, because its not every week i get to sit next to her.

i was thinking it'd be quite weird to suddenly talk to her. i need some sort of excuse, especially with her major c0ckblocks being there and all.

thanks in advance
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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and if anyone had a good starting subject to open a conversation in church with her, that'd be excellent,
Ask her if the New Testament would make more sense if Jesus was an Extraterrestrial. Think about it, the star of Bethlehem was a spaceship!

i was thinking, if i started talking to her, and asked for her number, her sister who was obviously ugly, would feel fvcking inferior and i would be seen as making her feel like "the ugly duckling" as i didnt ask for her number,
Who the fvck cares about her sister's feelings? You're only being c0ckblocked in your mind. Focus on reality, not your imagination.
 

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Make some random, funny, off-the-wall comment to her in passing. If she smiles and/or giggles, you're in.

BGMan
 

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haha thanks for the replies. i'm actually trying to come up with a little quip to tease her with. so far i've only seen her twice in church, at the same service, i just can't think of anything funny to say to her, or at least something that won't seem awkward in front of her bloody family.

i seriously doubt she would give me her number with her folks over her shoulder.

if you guys have any funny off the wall comments to help me out with, please spit it out. now.

my brain is just too beat from all that science. pah. this is the first situation i've ever come across in church, seriously lost for ideas, any other input would be highly regarded :D

my friend knows her personally though, but i want to start talking to her first, because having my friend introduce us might come across as weird and pathetic.

DAMN.
 

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there's this thing bout them sisters though, they really like to sing the hymns hella loudly. so i thought that if i sat next to her again, i could say this "hey... you should join the choir, you'd sound really good"

and start talking to her from there. what do you guys think? its a weak effort i know, but apparently that's all my brain will afford me right now. :(
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This is easy duuude
Ok here you go..
Approach her sister! That way you'll eventually be introduced to her... there are ways...

or find someway to help in church and ask the hottie for some help or something.. real easy, non threatning, and it will get you away from her family since she will come and help you and will give you a chance to strike up a convo and who knows, maybe start sitting together and take it from there...
Tell her you are looking for volunteers to sing one day or something i dunno
Good luck
 

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there's this thing bout them sisters though, they really like to sing the hymns hella loudly.
So, work with that! Tell her to keep it down because you can't hear yourself sing. Give a little half smile after you say it. Go as far as putting your finger in front of you mouth and say "shhhhhhh!" Again smile.

Approach her sister!
I'm going to go one step further, approach her parents! Make buddies with the parents first. Then they'll introduce you to their two daughters.

When approaching a hottie in any group, always go for the ugliest one first and work your way up. Parents are always the ugliest :D
 

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Originally posted by Desdinova
So, work with that! Tell her to keep it down because you can't hear yourself sing. Give a little half smile after you say it. Go as far as putting your finger in front of you mouth and say "shhhhhhh!" Again smile.
wow this is great. lets pray i get to sit next to her again. ill definitely use this as an opener. haha thanks... if i don't get the chance to sit next to her, ill try to approach her folks or her sister with some lame arse excuse! :D thanks Pancho

alright, ill be seeing her next sunday i guess, will let you guys know if there are any updates

meanwhile post if you guys have any more bright ideas or quips.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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