"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Blew it -- and I think I know where I went wrong...

Novelus

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I'm still new at this.

I started talking to a 24 year old (I'm my early 30s) at OK Cupid. She is deaf. I am hard of hearing.

After exchanging messages with her for about two weeks, she gave me her cell phone number, unasked. This was so we could start texting. Since she's deaf, it was the only way, really.

I was looking forward to meeting her, not only to see if something more could develop, but to sort of compare notes with someone else who has a hearing disability. I, myself, am Hard of hearing, but not to the extent she is. She was sent to a state school for deaf people when she was little. I was spared that fate and grew up in a hearing world, but with a difficult hearing disability. So, having not had deaf/HOH friends before, I was looking forward to comparing notes.

Thing was that she was advertising for "friends with benefits, friendship, and maybe even a committed relationship". Her words on her OkCupid profile, more or less.

After about four weeks of texts back and forth and her blowing off my requests to meet in person at least 3 or 4 times, I asked her if she had a Facebook account. She added me to her Facebook.

She had pictures of the regular grade school where both she and I started off. I went on to regular Junior High, she went afterwards to the deaf school. But she had pictures on her Facebook from that grade school and from the deaf school. The grade school photos were jogging my memory and I was commenting on the photos that I recognized so-and-so hearing-impaired teacher, or that I remember the wall mural in the lunch room, it was really cool.

Also commented on some of the pictures of the deaf school... it is interesting to me, because I could have easily gone there. The teachers wanted to send me there, but my parents demanded that the teachers try harder... so I stayed. Anyway, all of this is interesting... it's another world I could have been a part of, but never was. so I was commenting and saying how interesting it was to see how they did certain things at teh deaf school.

What I found strange at that point, was she texted me on my phone:

"Would you please cool it with the photo comments? Not to be a ***** or anything..." (exact quote)

This immediately struck me as strange, because I've been on Facebook a long time, and no one has ever said that to me before. My first response was one of shock and surprise and I texted back: "Okay.... o_O"

Then I started to get upset by it. And I sent a message to her on Facebook saying that no one had ever asked that, and if she didn't want comments on her photo, she shouldn't post photos. I told her that she was rude for doing so and that (yes, I really said this) that she wasn't being a ***** for saying so, but an a**h*le. I told her not to text me again until she is ready to talk to me like a real person, instead of sitting on messages for days and days, and even weeks without response.

I showed her text to a couple guys and a couple girls at work and all of them thought that her request for me to "cool it" on the photo comments was very strange for Facebook. After all, it is Facebook, it lives and breathes commenting. All of them agreed with me that it was rude of her to text that to me.

Two days went by and today she text back with: "I don't stay friends with people who snap the smallest things. I think you are an a**h*le. I'm defriending you on Facebook and removing your number from my cellphone. Goodbye."

Well.... she has a point. I didn't handle things right.

I got her text about the photo comments while i was at work, and I was very stressed out from work and college as well. Anyone who knows me can vouch that this is not a normal response for me, to get pissed off and tell off someone.

But I did recognize that I didn't handle it right. And I recognized that whether or not she was rude to text to me about the photo comments, it wasn't cool of me to respond to it the way I did.

So even though she said she defriended me on Facebook and removed me from her cell phone, I texted an appology to her. I said that I was sorry for misreading, overreacting, and calling her a bad name." I explained that I am very stressed out at work and school, but that it didn't excuse my lapse of manners. I told her I should have clarified what she meant exactly before responding. I wished her the best for her life and future and said Goodbye.

I figured the least I could to do is apologize for how I handled it. I do not expect a reply, I did not text the apology to her in order to elicit a reply from her. I apologized because I was taught that is what you do.

I know that anything between she and I is over and it doesn't bother me too much. There are other women that I am talking to. What bothers me about this is that I could have handled this better... not just the Facebook photo comment, but also from the very beginning on OK Cupid.

From the beginning, I probably displayed AFC signs. Why else would it take four weeks and her turning down a meeting 3 or 4 times?

I probably should not have asked for and joined her Facebook page. It created too much familiarity.

And whether or not her text about my photo comments was rude or not, no matter whether or not male and female coworkers agreed with me on this point, I should not have reacted angrily to her text.

I may have felt like I was standing up for myself, but it didn't really accomplish anything. If I really felt like things were going in an inexcusable direction, then I could have simply let our conversations slow and fade.

Part of the subconscious reason for my anger, I think, was that here was someone I could connect with who could understand where I've been in life as a Hard of Hearing individual. People with full hearing really don't understand what it is like. And I was commenting on elements in the photo that hit close to home in that area. And her only reaction to that was, "Cool it with the comments". I think that was the real reason for my anger. It was like it didn't matter. But that was a subconscious interpretation, due to my own insecurities about my hearing and so forth. That was my problem.

Any other thoughts? I'm sure many of you will have something to add.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Jitterbug

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She's juggling a few guys and there's one she's particularly interested in who's also on her Facebook. She does not want her Prize to see your comments. Hence the request. Happened to me a couple of times (one case it was because she had a boyfriend) then I learned the lesson.

If you're adding girls you're gaming to your Facebook, it's better not to write on their Wall, comment on their photos or anything that makes you look too keen. If you have to use Facebook, use it to gather information about them, so you know who you're dealing with.

Examples are: hobbies, interests, religion, political view, 597 apps (loser, no life, easily swayed by peer pressure), extreme left wing environment land rights for gay vegetarian whales causes, 23042803420 photos of Girls Night Out wh0ring at clubs, 2000 friends, 90% comments coming from guys etc.
 

Novelus

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Hmm... that does makes sense. There were lots of other comments on her photos, but they were almost all from women. Her wall posts frequently "complained" of lots of guys from former jobs, etc, texting her for a date. She was saying that it was 'tiresome" to field all these texts and turn them down.

Well, it's unfortunate, but moving on.
 

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Novelus said:
I'm still new at this.

After about four weeks of texts back and forth and her blowing off my requests to meet in person at least 3 or 4 times...
Yep ,you sure are new to "this" and you got yourself played royally..

What you had was a protracted interaction with a hearing disabled woman who has figured out how to be an Attention Wh0re nonverbally.

Read the last sentence in the quote above.
A more aware guy would have read that situation for what it really was- LOW interest in meeting you, ergo, LOW interest in YOU.

She was merely feeding her ego at your expense all along .

Stick around here for a while and learn the ropes.
 

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Don't sweat it. The reason why she snapped is because she has interest in some dude. NEVER worry about emotionally unavailable women. You will be okay. One thing I would suggest with women, less emotions you show, the better. Anger, confusion, sadness, and etc are seen as weaknesses by women. Always be indifferent. No sweat off my balls attitude. Much bigger things to worry about. Swine flu is coming, economic collapse, people going nuts shooting each other, you get the point.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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