Blackdragon's Summer Time Apporach Journal

[PrEcIsIoN22]

True. We are unstoppable because we are making more people to appoarch journal. It's about time someone got those Keyboard jockeys into the field. Let the Revolution begin !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I admit to being a Keyboard Jockey but thats changing soon. Revolution, it just might be that. A little inspiration goes a long way, I'm anxiously awaiting the start of my own journal:woo:

 

[Charm]

The revolution begins for each person on a daily basis when they step out into the field.

 

[Blackdragon5095]

May 05, 2006
It's been awhile since I posted anything, I haven't given up.

I saw this 1 girl come in with her mother. Her hair looked good and once again I though she was gonna be hot. Anyway went up to appoarch and turned away and said to myself ( winners don't quit ) I turned back around and open both the mother and the girl.

Me: Is oak hills having a porm ?
Girl: yeah tommorrow
Mother: Yeah they are
Mother: you go to school around here ?
Me: Yeah I goto diamond oaks

Thier was more but I don't feel like typing it up anyway. I open up good with the question opener and cracked some jokes in the convo but when it came to close I did bad agian...

11/100 appoarches

I saw this girl in a car. I went up and did some body language to ask her about the nosie. She laughed some and smile a little bit. I was gonna chat her up but man that noise was annoying has hell I rather ketp my hearing. Next time their a loud noise. I'll ask them about it beside doing stupid body language. What was I thinking ??

12/100 appoarches

I saw this cute girl standing on her toes ( Pretty cool ). I went over to chat her up.

Me: That thing you did was cool do it agian
Cutegirl: You mean this ( in a soft voice )
She stands on her toes again
Me: where you learn to do that ?
Cutegirl: blah blah blah

This convo didn't go to well thats because the girl was really nerves of me apporaching her and chatting her up. Her vocie went out on her I could bearly hear her. Some girls aren't this nerves. Allmost made me feel nerves, anyway I took a closer look at her and realize she problay 13 or 14. Cute but just too young. ( sorry kido )
Her father comes by with a look for whats going on? Not the wtf look I'm gonna kick some ass.

Me: I was asking her about how she was standing on her toes
Father: Oh, she takes bowlay ( I can't spell )

I learned something from that cute girl, I can't let women affect me. She must been nevers because some cool guy like me appoarched her ( hehehe). I gotta have more self-control. Well thats all.

3 apporaches today. :rockon:

13/100 appoarches

 

[Blackdragon5095]

May 06, 2006

Today I listened to my player music agian ( Lose yourself and Till I Collapse ) This music gets me pumped.

I was bagging and I saw this cute girl, her name will be hb7. At first I though, no do your job but then, thanks to my new confidence I heard a voice say " How will you improve if you don't appoarch ?" I went over and grabbed a basket and open her with a question opener

Me: Do you play volleyball ?
Hb7: No
Hb7: I used to play it
Me: Why you stop ?

What a B#%!, didn't answer my question and the way she talked made her sound as if she was sick. This girl had a high level b#%!! shield .I think she saw me looking at her.Once again when a girl gives me that I'm fake or nerves vibe I can feel it to. It's like you know something going on and it hits you so fast.

14/100

I was outside thinking about how I shouldn't give up on the appoarch journal and how good I'm already becoming. I have been openers and I'm pushing for the convo even if the girl dosen't like it ( too bad B#%! ) Out of nowhere I see this cute red head girl. She was smiling at me. She had 2 other girls with her that were fat.

Me: They making you push that cart ?
Hb7: Huh ?
Me: I said are they making you push that cart ?
Fatgirl1: He said are we making you push that cart?
Hb7: Oh yeah
Me: You should stand up for yourself ( c+F)
Me: Don't let them push you around
Me: Hey I'll help you fight them too
The girls started laughing
They went to the car and I pushed some carts in and came back ( I'm not giving up so easy)
Me: You have rights girl don't let them push you around
Me: tell them to shut up and get in the car

This is funny because the girl actually said that lol. The girl was doing what I said. ( alot of ass kissing )
In the close I didn't say much but she did smile at me when she got in the car and shut the door.

15/100

I saw this girl coming out to her car and I saw her drving it and had some stuff all over it like. I love you casey. Anyway I decide to chat her up she had a B#%! shield up. She wasn't all that good looking.

Me: Don't you go to oak hills
Hb6: No
Me: which school you go to ?
Hb6: I go to XXXX
Me: I have no idea where that is ( why the hell did I say that ? )
( she walked away but I'm not gonna give up that easy )
Me: You live around here ?
Hb6: yeah I live in XXXXX
Me: Don't they have a kroger store over their ?
Me: Why would you come way over their to here
Ass kissing time. You should have seen the looked on this girl's face. She was gonna to explain herself to me.
Hb6: No they don't have a store over their so I can come here
Hb6: this isn't a bad store
Me: oh ( like I care )

I could tell this girl wanted to go so I let her go. I had to push but I'm starting to get people to talk and kiss my ass. I'm loving it.

16/100

I saw this car coming I looked in and saw 2 girls. They looked like twins ( but they weren't ). I walked over and chat them up. 1 of them was hot as hell with a nice ass. Her name will be hb8.

Me: are you 2 sisters ?
Mother: Everyone ketps asking us that
Hb8: lol
Me: Well at least I though you 2 girls were tiwn sisters.
They both laughed and ketp walking as I was talking to them. I can tell they really wanted to go. I'm gonna count this as 1 appoarch. I was hoping for a double but oh well.

17/100

Deep Thinking:
Today wasn't a 100% failure. I was thinking hard today. I realize I need to do the following things.

1. Pay more attention
2. Listen better. I seem to be good at showing I'm listening but I'm just waiting to ask the next question as if I'm dieing to talk
3. Don't be afaid to walk with them. I should have done that to the hb8 and had more of a convo. I'm afaid to do this at times because I think they will really increas the B#%! sheild.

I realize something. This push for a convo dose work and allows me to at time have people kissing my ass. I'm getting used to appoarching girls with their mothers around. Only thing I haven't done is appoarch a girl with guy around. I'm gonna step up and do it. I can't sit here and avoid that stuff. Even if it turns out to be her b/f.

I got 4 apporaches in today.

 

[Blackdragon5095]

May 07, 2006

Today I was thinking of the pua vidoes I learned some new stuff from. I'm gonna work on my openers and appoarches being more and more indirect. Also showing less interest as if I'm not interested in them.

I was bagging again..... And saw this 1 girl. She looked pretty cute and had nice legs. I chat her up
Me: isn't it too hot to be wearing a sweatshirt ?
The cutegirl gives me a nasty look and begins to do ass kissing ( wow I'm getting good at this I got girls talking and explaing theirselfs to me )
Cutegirl: I'm don't feel hot
Cutegirl: I feel cold
Here a question I'm worring. That appoarch was a neg or sorta a insult appoarch. So if I do a neg-hit or a insult appoarch do women normally give nasty looks like that or did I say the wrong thing.

18/100

Again I was bagging. ( The same old story ) And I saw this lady come up. Really cute looks a little older. ( maybe 21 or 25 ) She looks tired but when she came closer she smiled at me but I didn't let her smile put my guard down.

Me: You look tired
Cutegirl: Yeah I'm
Me: What you been doing ? ( smile )
Cutegirl: I was up all nite ( smiling back)
Me: Doing what ? ( Pushing the convo )
Cutegirl: Partying and now I'm gonna have to suffer for it

I get down bagging her stuff and then I say

Me: Well you should get some rest ( smile)
Cutegirl: I will ( smileing back )
Me: have a nice day
Cutegirl: you too

19/100

Wow about time I had a warm appoarch. Anyway I realize something. Too many people where I apporach at are on the GO. And 1 guy was right here what he said.

Furthermore, a street pickups minimizes your chances of getting anywhere with any chick. First of all, you're out in public, rather than isolated or semi-isolated, so you're chances of getting physical are quite remote (anti-slut defense). Second, your target is going to be busy and probably in a hurry. Strike two. Also, what are your chances of developing any meaningful rapport while on the street? Very slim. Use street sarges to get you into an upbeat, social frame of mind. As far as street number closes leading to actual closes, you may very well wind up exerting a great deal of effort and spending a lot of time on an activity with a very low probability of success.

Sarge in closed environments such as bars, cafes, clubs where people go to mingle and will likely stay for a period of time. You can not only approach but isolate and go into the comfort stage. You can get physical with the girl, and then you have time to bounce her somewhere else.

Now I'll say it again. I seen Pick up artists and Don Juans do good on street appoarches. But I will begin to seek places like bars, clubs and cafes. Where people aren't in such a rush to leave. As for the street appoarching. I will contune. I do get girls who want to talk. Street appoarching will allow me to make my appoarching come off as more indirect. And get more social.

Another post that I though was bullcrap

I'm gonna do you a favor and advise you on something that I just found out 4 months ago after studying seduction for about two years now.

the best way to open sets is by using indirect openers.
I can not stress this enough. indirect openers will help you pull pick ups that you never thought you could do it in your wildest dreams.
indirect openers are meant to help you open sets without having to hit on any of the girls and the best part is that you can go into a fullblown conversation about relationships with the HB's in less than a minute.

another powerfull thing about indect openers is that the babes CAN NOT, AND I MEAN CAN NOT AND I REPEAT CANT NOT reject you at the beginning of the conversation because
A) you are not hitting on theM and therefore THEY CAN NOT REJECT YOU.
B) they will honestly believe that you just need their opinion and will try to help you.."poor you".
C) the indirect openers content are meant to interest the girls inmediately because they are about relationships... you know how women think they know it all when it comes to relationships?.. thats how you hook them.

the only trick about indirect openers is that you gotta believe your own bullshyt while you're saying it. if you act as IF what you are talking about is a real issue, then theyll believe it in a heartbeat. just convey personality during the conversation and try not to hit on the girl you like before 5 to 10 minutes.
my favorite indirect opener and the only one I USE was invented by the PUA Style.
this is called the "who LIes more men or women" I added a couple of stuff that help me while doing it and youll make something up for yourself once you start using it too. it goes like this,,,,

"hey guys, I need your opinion on something."
and then give then a "False time constraint" so theyll think you're not gonna be talking with them for ever and they will be stuck with you. say, "I have to get going because my friend is waiting for me"
by this time you have their full attention....
"but I wanna know who lies more men or women, my friend thinks that one gender lies more and I think the other gender lies more..."

research this opener and learn it and youll see how easy it is to open sets everywhere you go effortlessly.
do not disregard this information before you use it because I once thought that inderect openers were for wussies and that hurt my game a lot until I started to use it.
I know know how difficult it is to open a hb without showing your real intent and at the same time trying to let then know that you are not afraid of your sexuality. indirect openers are the way to go man. try them and the sky is the limit.

I realize that indirect openers are the best way to go. When you first appoarch a girl don't come off as hitting them. You should chat them up and get connection then begin to hit on them.
Openers like
" you look cute "
" your hair looks good"
" you look like my next g/f "
" wanna join my gang "

Joke, compliment and stupid pick up lines. Just don't work. Joke openers should always be stacked and just used to melt the ice ( in other ways make the girl cheer up ) but don't just them all the time. It's just lame.


Well today I got 2 appoarches and learned more stuff.

 

[Blackdragon5095]

"You miss 100% of the shots you never take" - Wayne Gretzky

May 08, 2006

I woke up this morning with fear already on my ass. Telling me how doing 100 appoarches was a complete waste of time. When as I drove to my career school fear still trying to make me quit. As I stilled got bashed my fear I started to realize why I ketp worring about the 100 appoarches. It was a lack of self-believe. For me to destory doubt in my mind I must have a strong self-believe. I though about Muhammad Ali quotes. How he succed and then I though about things I did well. Then it hit me. The only limition is the 1 I make. I felt the inner confindence come back and fear going away.
I'm not giving up on the 100 appoarches, I allmost did today but the inner-confidence smacked me around to wake me up.

I was in the gym today working out, also with my work out music ( ketps me pumped ). Out of no here I see some hb7 girl with a cute smile walk in the room. She walks over to the heat room ( this where you sit in the room and let the heat burn off fat ) But today it was broken so she left. I got done with my work out and gusses who came back. Fear itself !!! telling me not to do it. I told myself I can do this, I can do this. The only limition I have is the 1 I MAKE !!! I walked up to her with my figer in the air. And a questioning look on my face. The entire time I'm talking to her she jugging. She turns down her ipod ( well well, and I was worry about appoarching a girl having a headphones on too )

Me: Do you go to wyoming high school ?
Hb7: Yeah I'm a senior
Me: Oh wow, you will be out before you know
Me: what career you going in to ?
Hb7: blah blah blah ( I forgot what it was called )
Hb7: blah blah blah ( she said something about how she can't draw )
Me: I can't draw ethier
( we both laughed )
Me: I hated those art classes
Me: I would just goof off in their and the teacher would get mad.
Me: So your career don't have to do with drawing ?
Me: what is it about ?
Hb7: blah blah blah ( she said some other stuff about it and helped me understand what she was taking )

I notice how hard it was to get her to talk. And plus my legs tired from the 4 min jog I did. So I decide to close.

Me: well it's been nice talking to you (smile )
Hb7: you too (smile )
Me: good luck with your career ( put my hand out to shake hers )
Hb7: thanks ( smiles and shakes my hand )

Overall:
She was quite friendly .....at first..... But I did alot better at the close. I never apporached and talked to a girl while she ketp jogging. Fear allmost got me but I didn't let him hold me. ( you lose fear ). Anyway I need to appoarch girls much faster and ignore fear.

Well just 1 appoarch today.

20/100

 

[Blackdragon5095]

You either own the game or it owns you

May 12, 2006

Today I was thinking about how I improve, look at me. The first 20 appoarches I did before the apporach journal all I could say is hi or compleiment and walk away. I came far........... very far. I realize pain hasn't made me unhappy it acutally made me stronger and really more happy. This 1 guy said " your getting big arms like your little brother ". Anyway the apporach,

I was leaving my career school and I saw this girl in the doorway. I go to open the door and she freaks out.

Me: are you waiting for someone ?
Cutegirl: ahhh
Cutegirl: you sarced me (lol)
Me: my bad ( smile)
Me: let me gusse your waiting for someone ( maybe she didn't hear me the first time)
Cutegirl: Yeah I'm
Me: I was planning on coming behind you and grabbing you ( smile some c+F)
Cutegirl: lol
Cutegirl: what career class you taking ?
Me: The computer class
Me: It's pretty hard
Cutegirl: are you a junior ?
Me: Yeah
Me: Your a senior right ?
Cutegirl: Yeah
Her voice is sorta annoying. I mean real cute girl but the voice gets kinda of annoying.
Me: hey I have to get going ( I really do I gotta be at work in time )
Me: whats your name ?
Cutegirl: Katie ( I shake her hand )
Me: I'm blackdragon ( not my real name duh )
Me: nice talking to you ( smile )
Cutegirl: you too bye (smile)

Overall
I been doing alot of reading. For now on if I appoarch a girl I will always ask for the name and do my best to close with a nice talking to you or see you around. Something like that.

Thats the only appoarch I got in today. I was busy at work. I saw this 1 girl who used to work their. I got her number. She pretty cute too. I'll tell you how it goes. ( I might just use her to work on convo skills )

21/100 appoarches.

 

[Blackdragon5095]

May 13, 2006

Today was cold, I'm surpised how the weather changed, it was hot now it's cold.
Well down to the appoarches

I see this hb8, nice ass and curves. She has her arms crossed, with a frown on her face. I have to do 3 things here.

1. Get her out of the bad body language.
2. Get her to smile
3. Be ready for her to react rudly

I see her with 2 other guys. Looks like they are father and brother. Maybe she could be mad at her b/f. Who knows ??

Me: you look tired
Hb8: lol
Wtf ? that wasn't even a joke. I just don't get it it times. I'm that funny ?? I mean when I'm not trying to be funny I get girls laughing. I gusse humor is connected me to and will be the rest of my life.
Me: did someone piss you off ?
Hb8: ( shakes her head and smiles )
Hb8: (goes back to the arms crossed and frown on her face )

I'm done here. She upset and I ain't letting no girl use me as a emotional support pool. I'll rather run into a wall.

I saw another hb8 I was going outside and she was coming in. I decided to chat her up.

Me: isn't it cold out here ?
Hb8: lol no
Me: I'm freezing !!

She just ketp walking. I get used to it. People come here to shop and leave. So hey ??
Anyway I don't know why I get girls to easily laugh. Anyway I had this 1 girl give me strong EC and smile at me. Before I can say anything she says hi to me first.

Uglygirl: Hi
Me: hey ( GOD DAMN B!tch you made me lost a point)
Me: is it still rainning outside ? ( I should take you outside and beat you with a ugly stick :box: )
Uglygirl: no it stopped
Me: Oh ( damn your ugly )

Well look another point down the toliet.

Overall
I didn't appoarch some girls due to fear. I gonna fight fear more. I could had more appoarch if I didn't let fear hold me back.

2 appoarches today, Could had 3 if that ugly girl didn't say something first. ( damn her )

23/100 Apporaches

 

[losDJ]

Hey Blackdragon, nice work so far. Keep being tenacious with your goal of 100 and don't give up. From reading your thread though, I would make the following recommendation. Push your boundaries and don't let yourself get too comfortable. With all these approaches and convos, you are starting to sound like you're getting too comfortable. Keep up the conversations for a few more minutes and try number closing if they are still smiling by the end of it.

I was inspired by you and chickenlegs03 to start my own thread for the summer, and I have my own personal agenda, so I'll be checking in with you two to see how you're holding up over the next few months. Keep it up, man.

 

[Blackdragon5095]

You either own the game or it owns you

Hey Blackdragon, nice work so far. Keep being tenacious with your goal of 100 and don't give up. From reading your thread though, I would make the following recommendation. Push your boundaries and don't let yourself get too comfortable. With all these approaches and convos, you are starting to sound like you're getting too comfortable. Keep up the conversations for a few more minutes and try number closing if they are still smiling by the end of it.

I was inspired by you and chickenlegs03 to start my own thread for the summer, and I have my own personal agenda, so I'll be checking in with you two to see how you're holding up over the next few months. Keep it up, man.

I will start trying to number close. If I get good vibes.
For the convos part. You gotta remember on the job. People come and go. Women make it harder and harder if they don't really wanna talk to you. I will ketp pushing for convos. It works like wonders.
Thanks for the feedback man.



May 14, 2006

I'm having some money problems, since I drive now I realize I been losing more money then when I wasn't. I'm gonna have to have to start a chart on how much money coming in and being spend. I gonna be more careful with my money. Anyway enough about my problems lets get into the apporaches.

I came in to work and decide to get a little snack. Man it was busy, all 12 lines were open, mad people walking and standing in line. So I get in line where the U-scan is. Standing infront of me is a cutegirl, she has a bag on her shoulder with bob marley on it. So I chat her up about bob marley.

Me: You listen to bob marley.

Another person moves up so dose she and I. I gusse she didn't hear me or maybe ignoring me. But I won't give up that easy.

Me: ( tap her on the shoulder )
Me: you listen to bob marley don't ya ?
Cutegirl: yeah I do
Me: his music is good ( I listen to it time to time )
Me: it's something postive unlike rap music ( the girl shakes her head in agreement )
Me: whats your favorite bob marley song ??
Cutegirl: mmmmmm
Cutegirl: I don't know
Me: you like them all don't ya ? (smile )
Cutegirl: lol yeah
It gose dead but I don't give up. Time for a close.
Me: whats your name ?
Cutegirl: Katie
Me: I'm Blackdragon
Me: nice talking to ya
Katie: you too
( we shake hands )

Overall:
She was nerves as hell. Because she actually was waiting for her b/f. I saw this guy come out and she was really happy to see him and they walked together out the store. That explains why she was acting like that.

I didn't let her being nervous get to me. I did alot better and was much more cool and clam about it.
24/100

It's been hours after that appoarch. I was in the lobby I saw 2 girls. 1 was small and the other was tall. The short 1 had a nice ass. ( oh yeah ) but she had to be like 13 or maybe 14. So I decided not to appoarch ( don't wanna appoarch young girls ) I saw them walk pass me and then grab a cart.

Tallgirl: That cart looks more of your size ( she looks at me with a joking smile, letting me know she talking to me and her frined or sister )
Me: lol ( I'm being ass )( Damn it girl appoarch me their gose another point, I shouldn't have waited oh well )
Me: You should hit her with that
Shortgirl: lol
Shortgirl: I can beat her up
Me: oh really ?
Me: you must be a tough girl huh ?
Shorgirl: yep
Me: She said she can beat you up
Tallgirl: lol
Me: how old are you ?
Shorgirl: 24
Me: yeah right ( thier was no way even tho she looked pretty good )
Me: let me see some id
Shorgirl: ( pulls out her cell phone and laughs )
Me: yeah what I though

It ended their I saw them again I made some jokes and made them both laugh and bagged for them.

Overall:
I end up focusing on the shorgirl and not on both.
I should have appoarched both of them and not waited. Therfore I ended up losing a point.
I didn't begin any kino or rapport ( didn't get to know them )

But I did follow them for a bit and talk to them.

25/100


It was later tonight. I was thinking about self-believe. Man when I reviewed why I was here. Fear was gone for the rest of the night. I was feeling like a million bucks. I see this 1 girl come in with her mother. Lets name her hb7. Another girl with a nice ass ( oh yeah, these girls making me have a good day )


Me: What is this make up ?
Mother: it's eye shadow
( I'm facing a new problem. Mothers talking for thier daughters. These old hags need to move over and their daughter talk. I'm not internested in talking to some 40 or even 50 year old lady.)
Me: I didn't know, not like I put on make up.
Mother: LOL
HB7: LOL
Me: It would be wired won't it ? Like I know all the make up because I weared it.
Mother: lol
Hb7: lol
Mother: yes that would be wired.
Me: Do you go to oak hills ? ( talking to the hb7 daugther )
Hb7: no
Mother: she dosen't
( f**K off b!t(h I'm not interested in you. I hope you go to hell !!! :box: )
Mother: she dose this fall
Mother: do you go to oak hills ?
Me: no
Me: I got to diamond oaks
Mother: oh
Me: I got their for a career
Me: have a nice night
Mother: you too
Hb7: ( smiles at me )
Me: ( smiles back )

Overall:
I felt like smacking that old lady. If I ketp getting mothers talking for their daughters then I'm gonna quit appoarching that way. I don't want the mother doing all the talking. I want the daugher too.
Plus the daugher had to be 13 or even 14. Way too young. I though was she 17.

I didn't again do kino
Couldn't get rapport thanks to ****block mother
I could have told her to let me see the eye shadow and ask questions.

What I did do is...
Ask good questions
Made myself be fun to talk to

26/100

1/4 Goal Overall:
So now I'm in the storm. Their's things I need to work on but getting better at making women talk. Alot better then I was before. I'm a funny guy so I'll use that to break the ice and make women have a great time. I wonder what will happen when I get to 2/4. I won't give up !!!!

 

[WhitePimp]

First off, it's great to see you trying to improve! I've started to kick my ass into sarging again after an upsetting oneitis and there's nothing like the feeling of finally starting to "get" it and having some success.

One word of advice from someone who also does this and is trying to stop...it seems like you're making excuses a lot for not pushing yourself further. I do most of my sarging at my job(I WORK at Barnes and Noble so it's a sarging goldmine) and a lot of times I'll chicken out of approaching by making an excuse and selling it to myself that it wasn't worth it...I've been working to overcome this as I know it's just my mind justifying my fear(which I am quickly learning there's NOTHING to fear from approaching). You're getting some good interacting in and it seems like you're picking it up in bits and pieces but really try to start getting numbers or at least rejections to give you that extra burst of confidence and experience. Or just eye **** them if it's really awkward to #close.

 

[Blackdragon5095]

First off, it's great to see you trying to improve! I've started to kick my ass into sarging again after an upsetting oneitis and there's nothing like the feeling of finally starting to "get" it and having some success.

One word of advice from someone who also does this and is trying to stop...it seems like you're making excuses a lot for not pushing yourself further. I do most of my sarging at my job(I WORK at Barnes and Noble so it's a sarging goldmine) and a lot of times I'll chicken out of approaching by making an excuse and selling it to myself that it wasn't worth it...I've been working to overcome this as I know it's just my mind justifying my fear(which I am quickly learning there's NOTHING to fear from approaching). You're getting some good interacting in and it seems like you're picking it up in bits and pieces but really try to start getting numbers or at least rejections to give you that extra burst of confidence and experience. Or just eye **** them if it's really awkward to #close.

Thank you.
Another person said something like that. I need to push myself. Look at me. I'm losing points for not apporaching. I could have more. And you are right again. I should just appoarch for the hell of it. I'm glad that I tell the true because if I didn't then how would I learn ??

 

[Boschy]

Are you reading the DJ literature? Or how about the stuff on www.bristollair.com? I agree with the other posters: that you're making small talk with the girls (plus their mums) and not getting them interested and/or number closing. Overcoming fear is a good first step, but I'd say you're doing well enough now. You should be practicing your conversation skills on friends and relatives, not just in the field.

 

[Blackdragon5095]

Please Read this

To Everyone:
I did ask for advice but I hate to sound like a d!ckhead here. I used to be a shy guy and I have changed alot. I'm sorry my apporaches aren't the coolest appoarches like Sapiens or Duke. If you getting bored of reading my apporaches then I would advise you look for someone else who has better apporaches then I do. ( maybe shyryder or boucne )

However, the place I do alot of apporaching is at my store where people are come and go. People go their to get what they want and leave. I'm in kroger unfirm and some women think that I may be talking to them because I get paid to do it. I get used to it.

Also Style said that when you appoarch a girl, she wonders how long you are gonna be around. Thats the problem, it seems alot of girls don't want me around in store and just want to leave. If you notice, alot of women seem to wanna talk longer OUTSIDE THE STORE. ( mmmmm someone said street appoarches were pointless )
Their are other guys with longer convo apporaches but they waste time pushing and pushing until the girls says I gotta go or gives him the ( F**k off look )

Another thing. I do focus my topics around the girl. If a girl is just not digging me, I'm gonna close and move on. I already know their are lot of other womne out their. I don't feel like wasting time on some nerves girl ( who could have a b/f or be fake ). A girl not digging me. I'll close and find another girl who will. Too many men run around trying to get some girl who has a b/f interested in them.

Why ?
Because they don't believe they can find another girl.

What I will do:
I will review the Dj bible and talk to other people like Boschy said. I will look at also some David Deangelo said about talking to women.

But never forget.
Until I find another place to go to find alot of girls to apporach. My store is gonna be the place for now. Get used to women not wanting to talk and wanting to leave.

That 1 girl who was giving me a hard time talking to her, was doing that because she had a b/f.

 

[SamePendo]

WTF was that chick Im-not-cool bull****? We all know you aint half as cool as my ass is.

On the mom thing. Next time try semi hitting on her (the mom), even if she is a old tea bag, flirting etc, like an Englishman.

 

[Charm]

Blackdragon, you're doing great mate. Here's where I think you could make some larger improvements. Come up with five questions which will force the person to reveal something personal regarding a thought or feeling in regards to something.

'When I was younger, I always wanted to travel to China but now i'm not really interested in China anymore. Have you ever dreamt of traveling somewhere? Did you end up going there?'

A question like that isn't smalltalk. It is engaging and direct. Let's say you were talking to Hb7 and her mother. You could say something like this:

"Few things excite me more than sunny beaches and adventures. HB7, if you could travel somewhere with just friends and not family, where would you go?"

Followed up by: "What would you do there?"

This cuts her mom out of the equation completely since you directed the question at her (without family). And i'm sure her mom would shut up because she'd want to know the answer

Just some thoughts.
KEep it up, work on getting more personal with your questions.

make a LIST of the questions that are personal. That way you can test them out.

 

[Blackdragon5095]

Texting

May 15,2006

Remember that phone number I got ? Well I text her today. Look at this.

Me: Hey Bad girl
Laruen: Whos this ?
Me: Your stalker
Laruen: Ok... just tell me who this is
Me: Blackdragon
Laruen: Oh hey.. U kinda scared me there Lol whats up
Me: lol not much, you sound like you was about to piss your pants
Laruen: Lol Im just like pissed... Not having a good day ( be my emotion support pool )
Me: ( **** she wants me to be a emotion support pool. F*** That )
Me:Same here. It's hard having to get up early ( too close )
Me: What you do all day ? besides worry about some guy stalking you.

She didn't text me back after that. I will see if she wants to hang out some time later. If she makes up some bullcrap excuse, She gose bye bye.

 

[Blackdragon5095]

Blackdragon, you're doing great mate. Here's where I think you could make some larger improvements. Come up with five questions which will force the person to reveal something personal regarding a thought or feeling in regards to something.

'When I was younger, I always wanted to travel to China but now i'm not really interested in China anymore. Have you ever dreamt of traveling somewhere? Did you end up going there?'

A question like that isn't smalltalk. It is engaging and direct. Let's say you were talking to Hb7 and her mother. You could say something like this:

"Few things excite me more than sunny beaches and adventures. HB7, if you could travel somewhere with just friends and not family, where would you go?"

Followed up by: "What would you do there?"

This cuts her mom out of the equation completely since you directed the question at her (without family). And i'm sure her mom would shut up because she'd want to know the answer

Just some thoughts.
KEep it up, work on getting more personal with your questions.

make a LIST of the questions that are personal. That way you can test them out.

Let me get this right.

Asking. Questions like ,
What you do today
Did you used to play basketball ?
What this stuff ( make up question )

Cause small talk right ?

So I need to ask questions like this ?
What would you do if you saw me stealing girl make up ?
Hey, I have a quick question. Do you travel alot
( if a girl says yes )
What the best place you been ( have the topic around their right ? )
( if she says no )
Where would you like to go and why ?

 

[Blackdragon5095]

A hard day

May 16,2006

Today wasn't a bad day, I decide to go to the mall. I walk in and I'm shaking in my boots. ( I have timberland boots ) I was so nerves, I went in by myself and with about $20.00 . Fear was pushing me away from appoarching. I told myself again ( I have to apporach ). At least 1 apporach. If I don't apporch then how can I learn ?? I saw 2 girls. 1 fat and other 1 kinda cute ( or so I though ). So I go to apporach.

Me: ( I was nevres as hell ) Hey um I got a question
The girls: Look at each other giving me the "your a loser look" and ketp walking.
Me: ( I won't give up easy )
Me: um what school you go to ?
Uglygirl: ( mumbles something and ketps walking )
Fatgirl: ( ketps walking )
Me: Huh I can't hear you ?
uglygirl: ( mumbles something again )

I just give up from their. They rejected me from the start. I was sweating like hell and I was so nevres to be in the mall alone. I saw this 1 girl and she smiled and I said hi and so did she. ( I'm not gonna count that appoarch).

After this apporach I went out the mall and sat in my car. Feeling like someone hit me with a whip. Man that was a nasty cold shoulder I got. But from pain I will grow stronger.

Deep Thinking:
Oh ok Oh ok. So it wasn't as easy as I though to be in the mall and too apporach in the mall. What I will do is start eatting in the mall. So are my plan of breaking stupid fears.

1. Go to the mall more often alone
2. Eat at the mall ( I'll get more used to it )
3. Gain self-control
4. Get used to talking to people in the mall

27/100

 

[Bourne]

Last approach was hard. I have found out lately when it rains, it pours but baby, tomorrow sun is going to shine once again.

The more rejections we face the less we start caring about what happens. Good job man, keep up what you are doing.