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It's hard to believe any of these rape claims about the great Bill Cosby being true.

The man is a comic genius and is a decent human being who has helped many people over the years.

His old comedy bits are funny cause he didn't have to swear to get a laugh.

Cosby had a comedy bit called "Spanish Fly" where he joked about drugging women. Maybe that is where these women heard it to make their claims.

It's a shame that conservatives in the media (and on here) want to play politics pushing their phony agenda trying to attack Liberals for Cosby's recent turmoil.

If conservatives really wanted to help Cosby they wouldn't have dropped him like a hot potato when these claims came out against him.

That is what hurts him the most cause if they were loyal to him at the networks the claims wouldn't have mattered at all.

All those years he put in making money for them and they treat him like that.

So much for conservative loyalty.

Disgraceful.



Danger said:
It is the way to demonize blacks who do not play by the leftist rules. They want blacks to remain on subsidies and welfare.
The conservatives in congress refuse to raise the minimum wage and to pass a job bill so people still remain on welfare.

That is hilarious considering the red conservative states rake in the most welfare.




Danger said:
Black conservatives represent those who face the challenges of life head-on without excuses and demonstrate the leftist lies for all to see. Their success enrages the leftists and therefore they become intolerable to the allegedly "tolerant".
Why would people on the left be enraged about black conservatives success when they are making less money and are less successful than black liberals who make more money in sports, movies, music?


Danger said:
I am saying that leftist idiots attack black men who are successful and try to tell other blacks how to be successful.

You are saying a lie. I don't see anybody on the left attacking successful black athletes, musicians, actors and trying to tell them how it is.

Name some names to who is doing that to whom.



Danger said:
This is why the lefties hate on men like the one's mentioned. Because like most who have the odds against them, of any race, they pulled themselves up on their own and do not need the liberal limp-wristers telling them they never had a chance.
Are you saying Liberals hate Bill Cosby?

Why the hell would Liberals hate Bill Cosby?

You are saying a lie. There are a ton of black athletes and musicians who came from nothing and created their own success from their own hard work.

Nobody on the left ever told them they never had a chance.

Liberals created programs to benefit blacks so they had a chance.



YawataNoKami said:
Why is the Leftstream Media Choosing NOW to Attack Bill Cosby?
Why are decades old accusations of allegedly unwanted sexual advances by legendary comedian Bill Cosby, just now being promoted by the leftstream media?

Bill Cosby, Herman Cain, and Clarence Thomas have much in common.

They are role models for young black males.
They are universally hated by the predatory left.
All were attacked on moral grounds by the media at a crucial juncture in efforts to discredit them.

This is right out of the Marxist/Socialist Hand book. If you can't attack the person's agenda, attack the persons character. All the women that have come forward have the same story almost word for word. They were given pills or they had their drinks spiked and the next thing they remember is waking up in their beds the next day. Sounds like they were coached on what to say and how to say it to avoid any further questions since they were drugged. It has also been said that if one tells a lie enough times it becomes the truth in the eyes of the public.

This is not a war between the Liberals and Conservatives but a war between the Marxist/Socialists and Constitutionalists. Obama and the Liberals want to change this country into a Marxist/Socialist regime. It is now time that We The People stand up to this agenda and demand that the Constitution be followed.Until the black community collectively opens it's eyes, it will forever be exploited by the left and will never reap the benefits of its exploitation..
This is a load of crap. Nothing but a bunch of far right absurdity to push an agenda of attacking the mainstream public.

What agenda is Bill Cosby trying to push that makes him universally hated by the left besides telling blacks to be accountable?
 

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That is hilarious considering the red conservative states rake in the most welfare.
What sooly cleverly leaves out is it turns out the gibsmedat parasites located inside those red states are leeching the welfare dollars and not the conservatives themselves. (big shock)

But as solid as the statistics Krugman provided might seem, we’re left with one glaring problem: States aren’t people. Could it be possible that liberals within conservative states are the ones taking the welfare dollars?
A survey by the Maxwell Poll on the political affiliation of those receiving government aid showed this to be the case.

Public Housing :Rep 12% Dem 81%

Medicaid :Rep 16% Dem 74%

Food Stamps :Rep 20% Dem 67%

Unemployment Compensation :Rep 21% Dem 66%

Disability (from Govt.) :Rep 25% Dem 64%

Welfare/Public Assistance :Rep 22% Dem 63%
http://rare.us/story/exploding-the-lefts-red-state-myths/
 

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Danger said:
Let's do a more apt comparison....Numerous scandals swept under the rug for the Obama administration.....but the well-known right wing blacks don't get the same treatment?
Just like Clinton's accusers you said were all swept under the rug? There are only manufactured scandals coming from the GOP who hate the President trying to destroy him.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/benghazi-conspiracy-theor_b_6215662.html

All of the Benghazi conspiracy theories have now been completely debunked. Again. The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence just publicly released its report, which systematically knocks down pretty much every paranoid theory over the tragedy which happened in Benghazi, Libya and what happened immediately afterwards. For those of you who are counting, this is the seventh such report that has come to exactly the same conclusions. The House committee was led by a Republican, but the report itself was a bipartisan effort.
Benghazi was a manufactured scandal by the GOP that was just debunked when the full report came out. Fox Noise doesn't talk about it anymore.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/23/jeff-flake-benghazi_n_6207358.html

The senator was asked during an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday about the House Intelligence Committee's findings from its two-year investigation into the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi. The committee, which released its findings on Friday, concluded that there was no evidence that the Obama administration tried to cover up the deaths of the four Americans who died in that attack
Even your own GOP Senator says there is no evidence that you right wingers were lying about for two years against Obama on the air.

He was interviewed on NBC, a network you conservatives call "Liberal". If the Liberals were sweeping it under the rug why were they talking about it on a major news program?

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Unfortunately as reality sets in and he becomes the divider in chief, not even the media can save him....even with the soft-ball questions and kid-glove treatment.
The only dividers are the GOP who set out to destroy Obama since the first day he came into office. Mitch McConnell publicly stated that his goal was to make "Obama a One Term President" which meant blocking and holding everything up in the senate. Our country suffered for it because of his hatred. Obama still got a second term.

If anybody got kid glove treatment by the press it was George W Bush who never challenged him on the Iraq war. The press core supported the war and gave him softball questions even when it turned out to be a lie.

If anything, the national press corps was probably too deferential to the White House and to the administration in regard to the most important decision facing the nation during my years in Washington, the choice over whether to go to war in Iraq.

The collapse of the administration’s rationales for war, which became apparent months after our invasion, should never have come as such a surprise. . . . In this case, the “liberal media” didn’t live up to its reputation. If it had, the country would have been better served.

http://www.salon.com/2008/05/28/mcclellan_6/
This is coming right from the mouth of Bush's own press secretary Scott McClellan that he talked about in his own book. Scott has just debunked the "Liberal Media" myth.
 

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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...oes-the-media-go-easy-on-barack-obama/272807/

Or there huh? Even the atlantic a bastion of leftoid poz and single mother feeelz can admit it. Come on specialEd..I mean embers84, you can do it.
If "liberal media bias" explains the failure to challenge Obama adequately, why do center-left publications challenge him more on a whole range of national-security topics than center-right publications? Why are avowedly leftist publications often more adversarial than center-left ones?
Did you only glance at the headline? Read the whole article next time.



Read this to get some enlightenment about the "liberal media".

Scott McClellan on the "Liberal Media"

If Bush's own press secretary mocks the American media as excessively "deferential" disseminators of right-wing government propaganda, isn't it time to retire forever the myth of the "liberal media"?

In a minimally rational world, this extraordinary passage, from the new book by Scott McClellan, would forever slay the single most ludicrous myth in our political culture: The “Liberal Media”:


If anything, the national press corps was probably too deferential to the White House and to the administration in regard to the most important decision facing the nation during my years in Washington, the choice over whether to go to war in Iraq.

The collapse of the administration’s rationales for war, which became apparent months after our invasion, should never have come as such a surprise. . . . In this case, the “liberal media” didn’t live up to its reputation. If it had, the country would have been better served.

Just consider how remarkable that is. George Bush’s own Press Secretary criticizes the American media for being “too deferential” to the Government. He lays the blame for Bush’s ability to propagandize the nation on the media’s uncritical dissemination of the Republican administration’s falsehoods. And most notably of all, McClellan actually uses cynical scare quotes when invoking the phrase which, in conventional political discourse, is deemed the most unassailable truth of all: The Liberal Media.

How much longer can this preposterous myth be sustained when even the White House Spokesman not only mocks the phrase but derides the media for being “too deferential” to the right-wing Government “in regard to the most important decision facing the nation during [his] years in Washington”? If one were to set about with the goal of debunking the “Liberal Media” myth — as Eric Alterman specifically did four years ago and other media critics have more generally done before that — one couldn’t dream up evidence more conclusive than McClellan’s admissions.

http://www.salon.com/2008/05/28/mcclellan_6/
Even Bush's own press secretary admits there is no "liberal media". Are you going to admit it too?

"Liberal Media" is a myth used by conservatives to push their right wing propaganda dominating every media market.
 

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Embers84 said:
Did you only glance at the headline? Read the whole article next time.
As if any sane person would read that pozzed leftoid jizz rag. Was merely using that to point out even your own single mommy blogging sh!tlib ilk admit the lamestream cathedral want to suck the Kenyan commies magical d!ck.
 

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Embers84 said:
"Liberal Media" is a myth used by conservatives to push their right wing propaganda dominating every media market.
Two career center-left journalists, Bernard Goldberg and Sharyl Attkisson (her book came out just last month) put their careers in jeopardy to write about it in books with NUMEROUS factual examples.

http://www.amazon.com/Stonewalled-O..._kstore_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0TTHATHT6MD19S6JQTT6

even the NYT admits it

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/nyt-public-editor-charges-liberal-bias/

As far as "right wing propaganda dominating every media market," if you consider talk radio as "dominating" media, you're an idiot. Other than that media backwater, in print, television, movies, etc., the political dialogue is utterly controlled (90% +) by the left and has been for many decades. That's a fact, not an opinion.

And yeah, what tits said about Salon as well. Maybe you'll be citing Huffington Post, Rawstory, Politicus, Mother Jones and The Nation next?
 

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And yeah, what tits said about Salon as well. Maybe you'll be citing Huffington Post, Rawstory, Politicus, Mother Jones and The Nation next?
Salon just reported it on their site when the "Liberal Media" didn't report on it.

Are you calling Scott McClellan Gerorge W Bush's own press secretary a liar who published those exact words in his own book? The quotes on Salon are directly taken from his McCellan's book.
 

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Are you calling Scott McClellan Gerorge W Bush's own press secretary a liar who published those exact words in his own book? The quotes on Salon are directly taken from his McCellan's book.
What... words... did... he... publish in his book? and in context. Because you certainly didn't quote him directly, just a Salon piece.

But so what? The man stated a nebulous opinion without any specific facts, and who knows what axe he is grinding. Maybe he didn't like Bush's nickname for him?

And I notice you have no response to any of my links, which are cram full of specifics and FACTS.
 

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dasein said:
even the NYT admits it.
Scott McClellan Bush's own Press Secretary admits there isn't.

dasein said:
What... words... did... he... publish in his book? and in context. Because you certainly didn't quote him directly, just a Salon piece.
Scott McClellan on the "Liberal Media"

"If anything, the national press corps was probably too deferential to the White House and to the administration in regard to the most important decision facing the nation during my years in Washington, the choice over whether to go to war in Iraq.

The collapse of the administration’s rationales for war, which became apparent months after our invasion, should never have come as such a surprise. . . . In this case, the “liberal media” didn’t live up to its reputation. If it had, the country would have been better served."
Those are his words which confirms the "Liberal Media" gave Bush a free pass on the lead up to the war and after he lied about WMD's. Don't make excuses.


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As far as "right wing propaganda dominating every media market," if you consider talk radio as "dominating" media, you're an idiot. Other than that media backwater, in print, television, movies, etc., the political dialogue is utterly controlled (90% +) by the left and has been for many decades. That's a fact, not an opinion.

Right-Wing Radio Monopoly and the Myth of the Liberal Media

Unable to fact the fact that a majority of the population simply does not want theocracy, social darwinism, and corporate supremacy, writes webpan.com, conservatives had to find a scapegoat, or invent one if needed. Thus the liberal media myth was born. The liberal media myth is a propaganda tool employed by conservative radio hosts, columnists, and pundits as a convenient excuse why after 20 years their ideology has filed to convince the public at large, and as a memetic inoculation of the public against the evidence that the media bias is in fact a conservative one.

Not only does the liberal media claim have no basis in fact, webpan.com continues, it also does not make sense considering the issue of media ownership and influence of advertisers. Most media outlets are owned by a handful of conservative corporations and individuals, and funded by usually economically conservative advertisers…This pro-corporate conservative bias of the media is well-documented and shows itself in consistent under-reporting or ignoring of any information that would lead people to question the fundamental status quo.**

Thus, the media is not liberal. It is right-wing, and nowhere moreso than in talk radio. The progressive counter-voice must grow if America is to have the balanced dialogue needed to inform people of what they must know to run a democracy.

http://www.completecampaigns.com/article.asp?articleid=88

The Center for American Progress and Free Press today released the first-of-its-kind statistical analysis of the political make-up of talk radio in the United States. It confirms that talk radio, one of the most widely used media formats in America, is dominated almost exclusively by conservatives.


In the spring of 2007, of the 257 news/talk stations owned by the top five commercial station owners, 91 percent of the total weekday talk radio programming was conservative, and only 9 percent was progressive.

Each weekday, 2,570 hours and 15 minutes of conservative talk are broadcast on these stations compared to 254 hours of progressive talk — 10 times as much conservative talk as progressive talk.

76 percent of the news/talk programming in the top 10 radio markets is conservative, while 24 percent is progressive.


http://thinkprogress.org/media/2007/06/20/14104/radio-report/

https://www.americanprogress.org/is...structural-imbalance-of-political-talk-radio/

How Fox News' Conservative Message Creeps Into Local News Broadcasts

Across the country, Fox News Channel's conservative misinformation is being broadcast to millions of viewers through local television stations, which are owned and operated by the network's parent company, often without the knowledge of the station's viewers.

Local news stations fall into two categories: "owned and operated stations" whose content is controlled by a network or larger parent company, and "affiliate" stations that are not owned by a central network, and thus do not have to use the network's content. So a local "Fox" station might be entirely independent, or it might be controlled by Rupert Murdoch's 21st Century Fox -- and they do not have to tell viewers which they're watching.

By owning these local stations, Murdoch and 21st Century Fox can push narratives of their choosing onto large local audiences, often running the same news packages and hosting the same personalities that appear on the Fox News cable channel. According to federal communications law, a single company can own any number local stations so long as they collectively reach "no more than 39 percent of all U.S. TV households."

21st Century Fox recently expanded into the San Francisco market, broadening their reach to 37 percent of U.S. television homes. They now own 28 stations in 17 markets.

With 71 percent of Americans getting their news from local channels -- almost double that of cable news networks -- Fox's expansion means that more households will be subject to Fox News' conservative misinformation even if they don't watch the cable news network.


http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/12/01/how-fox-news-conservative-message-creeps-into-l/201722

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-mann/heres-why-the-right-wing_b_206444.html

http://variety.com/2014/voices/columns/how-conservatives-dominate-tvradio-talk-game-1201022387

http://www.stateofthemedia.org/2013/audio-digital-drives-listener-experience/audio-by-the-numbers/
 

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Embers84 said:
Those are his words which confirms the "Liberal Media" gave Bush a free pass on the lead up to the war and after he lied about WMD's. Don't make excuses.
Even arguendo, one man's opinion on media handling of a SINGULAR specific issue doesn't disprove a leftist bias in MSM generally. I note you have nothing to say (again) about the whole BOOKS full of FACTS that I linked for you, nor about the admission of a NYT editor about overall leftist bias in that paper.

... and unlike ALL of your blockquotes, my sources are not partisan, none of them are. We already know that the leftosphere furiously denies slant for obvious reasons. Tell us something we don't already know.

To repeat, anyone who thinks that conservative domination in the backwater of talk radio signifies a RW MSM slant in the greater worlds of Hollywood, newspapers, magazines, book publishing and fiction/nonfiction television is a MORON. Since you bring it up in two more blockquotes, that means YOU.

As far as claiming that "conservatives own MSM" that's another fail. Limousine liberals own MSM, google "Sulzberger NYT" if you don't believe me. Even arguendo, that's like saying that because conservative Hindus own convenience stores that they keep lots of Perrier and caviar in stock instead of the lottery tickets, malt liquor and speed pills that they actually DO STOCK. It's called MASS media for a reason, and that reason is that Steve Forbes isn't buying lots of Swiffer mops and Katie Perry albums, the MASSES do, which explains exactly why MSM has always leaned left and always will as a matter of indisputable fact.

But do cite more Huffington Post articles and the like, letting everyone on this forum, which is not your favorite leftist echo chamber, know exactly how big a partisan fool you are!
 

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But do cite more Huffington Post articles
The Huffington Post reported the final House report on Benghazi that shows no evidence of nothing that you conservatives were lying about. Republican Senator Jeff Flake urged Republicans to give it up on NBC. The Huffington Post reported accurate information.

Attkisson was trying to push her conservative agenda of a Benghazi "cover up" that wasn't there. Her biased unprofessional journalism can't be trusted as well as her book.

dasein said:
Even arguendo, one man's opinion on media handling of a SINGULAR specific issue doesn't disprove a leftist bias in MSM generally. I note you have nothing to say (again) about the whole BOOKS full of FACTS that I linked for you, nor about the admission of a NYT editor about overall leftist bias in that paper.
McClellan was answering the softball questions for Bush everyday so the man must know. I like how you brush off McClellan and believe the opinions of Attkisson and Goldberg who are both conservative working currently at conservative media outlets.

dasein said:
... and unlike ALL of your blockquotes, my sources are not partisan, none of them are. We already know that the leftosphere furiously denies slant for obvious reasons. Tell us something we don't already know.

To repeat, anyone who thinks that conservative domination in the backwater of talk radio signifies a RW MSM slant in the greater worlds of Hollywood, newspapers, magazines, book publishing and fiction/nonfiction television is a MORON. Since you bring it up in two more blockquotes, that means YOU.
Attkisson and Goldberg are partisan conservatives. The number of TV stations owned by conservative media giants discredits their claims.

I just provided you with the current number of TV stations owned by conservative media giants that own FOX, NBC, ABC, CBS affiliates. Do the math and count the number of stations owned by conservative vs Liberal. If you don't believe me look up the number yourself and count them. Conservative media dominates.


21st Century Fox recently expanded into the San Francisco market, broadening their reach to 37 percent of U.S. television homes. They now own 28 stations in 17 markets.

Sinclair Broadcast Group is a Conservative American telecommunications company that operates the largest number of local television stations in the United States. Sinclair now operates or owns 29 ABC, 26 CBS, and 17 NBC local affiliated stations in addition to 41 Fox and 54 other affiliated stations.

Sinclair also owns or operates four radio stations. Broadcasts by SBG stations can be received by 30 percent of American households.
Fox and Sinclair alone own 67% of TV affiliates. That is conservative news being shown to people besides FOX cable news. They out number any smaller Liberal affiliates. Tribune is Conservative owning affiliates in major cities.


Sinclair Broadcast Group's conservative worldview slowly makes its ... a new approach to the news at WJLA-TV, Washington's ABC affiliate.
Good news, Washington DC -- your own local news channel, ABC 7, has new ownership who is going to turn the station conservative
Sinclair Broadcast Group (SBGI) and related companies have been buying up local non-Fox affiliated stations and pushing conservative biased news stories into the local news programs.

Since September of 2011, Sinclair Broadcast Group or their affiliated companies (Cunningham Broadcasting, Deerfield Media) have acquired or obtained a Local Marketing Agreement (LMA) for almost one hundred local television stations. According to its website, Sinclair now operates or owns 29 ABC, 26 CBS, and 17 NBC local affiliated stations in addition to 41 Fox and 54 other affiliated stations.
Fox News Masquerading As Reputable Journalism

By snatching up ABC, NBC, and CBS affiliates, Sinclair masks itself under the traditions of reputable journalism of the three historic broadcast giants. The public trust of news anchors built over decades is used to distract viewers from news stories slanted to provoke outrage at the United States government and policies opposed by conservatives. News stories for Sinclair stations are manufactured by the parent organization and inserted into the local news. The stories employ interviews with conservative sources, often with no interview with the agency or organization being accused of fraud, waste, or corruption.

In Reno, Nevada, the NBC affiliate, KRNV, has run stories on almost a daily basis from the parent organization that suggested and/or accuse waste or government conspiracy. In some cases, clips from Fox News are used, rather than from the NBC parent organization. Recently KRNV 6 PM broadcast ran ‘A’ Block stories (headline news) regarding the Affordable Care Act (e.g.; March 26, April 1) and gun laws (e.g.; March 28) that used people with a known conservative bias as their sources.

The LMA Loophole

Federal Communication Commission (FCC) rules do not allow licensing of more than one television station in a market to a person or company; however, during the first George Bush administration (1991) Sinclair Broadcast Group convinced the FCC to allow Local Marketing Agreements (LMA’s) that would allow a person or company to own one station and “operate” another station providing the latter station was licensed to a different person or corporation.

This has allowed Sinclair to go on a buying binge of television stations in the same market as their Fox stations. Sinclair uses Deerfield Media and Cunningham Broadcasting to own the licenses of stations where Sinclair already owns a television license. All Deerfield and Cunningham licensed stations are operated by Sinclair, and the family that owns Sinclair controls 90% of the stock in Cunningham Broadcasting.

In Reno, Nevada, the Sinclair Broadcast Group owns the license for Fox affiliate,KRXI, and operates the MyNetworkTV affiliate, KAME (licensed to Deerfield Media,) as well as the NBC affiliate, KRNV (recently licensed to Cunningham Broadcasting.)

This allows Sinclair to effectively control three stations in one market and supplant reputable journalism with conservative propaganda.

The Lingering Question

There is ample evidence that Sinclair Broadcast Group is using loopholes in the FCC regulations to control multiple stations in a single market. It is also apparent that news stories manufactured by Sinclair are shoddy and biased. The question is whether or not the people behind Sinclair are trying to pander to conservatives in order to increase profits or if they are perverting journalism for a conservative agenda. In one case it is a matter of greed, in the other, a matter of a betrayal to the American citizen.

An audit of all of the communications, finances and contributions of the companies, vendors, Board of Directors, and owners involved is the only way we will know.
http://paulkiser.wordpress.com/2014...placed-with-conservative-propaganda-makeover/

As of December 2013, Tribune Broadcasting currently owns 39 television stations located in 33 markets (including eight duopolies). 31 of its stations are affiliated with each of the current post-1986 broadcast networks: 14 are affiliated with Fox (not counting a satellite station ofKDVR), 13 with The CW (not counting a satellite of WTTV) and three with MyNetworkTV. In addition, the company owns four CBS affiliates, two ABC affiliates, two NBC affiliates and one independent station. It also provides operational services to three stations (one ABC affiliate, one CBS affiliate and one CW affiliate – the latter two are also operated as part of a duopoly) in the respective markets of Norfolk-Hampton Roads-Newport News, Virginia and Scranton-Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania through shared services agreements with Dreamcatcher Broadcasting.

Tribune also owns the cable/satellite version of flagship station WGN-TV, known as WGN America (one of four superstations owned by Tribune, along with KTLA, KWGN-TV and WPIX); the Chicago-based regional cable news channel Chicagoland Television (CLTV); and maintains a 30% ownership interest in Food Network (the remaining controlling interest in that channel is held by Scripps Networks Interactive).

Sinclair Broadcast Group is a Conservative American telecommunications company that operates the largest number of local television stations in the United States. Headquartered in Hunt Valley, Maryland, it owns or operates a total of 154 stations across the country (165 after all currently proposed sales are approved) in nearly 80 markets, many of which are located in the Southand Midwest. Sinclair also owns or operates four radio stations. Broadcasts by SBG stations can be received by 30 percent of American households.
Where is the "Liberal Media" at when all these media giants are Conservative owned media? .
 

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The Huffington Post
...is a garbage blog with no integrity or standards whatsoever, unlike Attkisson, with sterling journalistic credentials, a documented history of going after stories regardless of politics, and who is NOT a conservative.

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I like how you brush off McClellan and believe the opinions of Attkisson and Goldberg who are both conservative working currently at conservative media outlets.
Goldberg, center left for years, was blackballed from MSM for naming names in his books. He had a stable, lucrative career at CBS until blowing the whistle on liberal bias, then was promptly drummed out. The above about Attkisson is a compound, total lie. They wrote whole books crammed with examples and documented facts. McClellan was stating his OPINION in a single passage, not facts, about a SINGLE instance of media treatment, the WMDs and Iraq War, which DEMOCRATS, such as Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, and Joe Biden supported and voted for in addition to GOP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyC7loMop58

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If you don't believe me look up the number yourself and count them. Conservative media dominates.
Already dealt with directly in my prior post, which you of course ignore and go on to repeat leftosphere talking points over and over. You seem to confuse the nature of equity ownership with target markets and what they sell to those markets. Another fallacy is your implication that "rich = conservative."

You seem to have trouble distinguishing Fox News from 20th Century Fox, News Corp and Fox affiliates, or perhaps you think movies like Avatar, The Devil Wears Prada, Planet of the Apes, have conservative bias merely because Murdoch owns them.

The left has controlled MSM for a century, and is outraged that nonleft voices have the tiny comparative forum they do in talk radio and Fox News. We knew that already. We also know that the gorilla in the room is the internet, which is eclipsing the left's stranglehold more and more every year.
 

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...is a garbage blog with no integrity or standards whatsoever, unlike Attkisson, with sterling journalistic credentials, a documented history of going after stories regardless of politics, and who is NOT a conservative.
Ok, so did the Huffington post lie about the Darrell Issa's House Final report on Benghazi that showed no evidence of wrong doing? Did The Huffington Post lie about Republican Arizona Senator Jeff Flake telling Republicans on NBC to stop the Benghazi investigatons? No, it was all accurate information. Attkinson was pushing a Benghazi "cover up" for two years. The 7th House report debunks her theory again proving her shabby journalism to be incorrect. Looks like you don't want to admit the truth?

dasein said:
Already dealt with directly in my prior post, which you of course ignore and go on to repeat leftosphere talking points over and over. You seem to confuse the nature of equity ownership with target markets and what they sell to those markets. Another fallacy is your implication that "rich = conservative."

You seem to have trouble distinguishing Fox News from 20th Century Fox, News Corp and Fox affiliates, or perhaps you think movies like Avatar, The Devil Wears Prada, Planet of the Apes, have conservative bias merely because Murdoch owns them.

The left has controlled MSM for a century, and is outraged that nonleft voices have the tiny comparative forum they do in talk radio and Fox News. We knew that already. We also know that the gorilla in the room is the internet, which is eclipsing the left's stranglehold more and more every year.
FOX owns the majotity of stations including print and movies. It is owned by Murdoch. 6 major corporations are Conservative that combine for the largest media in the country. Fox, Sinclair, Gannett, Cox, Tribune, and Nexstar.

Here is a list of Conservative TV media groups compared to Liberal TV media groups. Conservative media dominates any Liberal TV media group. If you don't believe me you can check it out yourself to see which Conservatives own which entity. You are listening the wrong information. The numbers and facts do not lie.


Conservative Media Broadcast Groups


Portfolio: Fox owns 28 full-power stations in 18 markets — 18 Fox affiliates. 21st Century Fox recently expanded into the San Francisco market, broadening their reach to 37 percent of U.S. television homes.

Portfolio: Sinclair owns or manages 154 stations across the country (165 after all currently proposed sales are approved) in nearly 80 markets. Sinclair now operates or owns 29 ABC, 26 CBS, and 17 NBC local affiliated stations in addition to 41 Fox and 54 other affiliated stations. Sinclair stations can be received by 30 percent of American households.

Portfolio: Gannett owns 46 full-power stations in 19 markets. Gannett owns or services through shared service agreements or other similar agreements 46 television stations. Excluding owner-operators, Gannett is the No. 1 NBC affiliate group; No. 1 CBS affiliate group; and the No. 4 ABC affiliate group. These stations cover 30% of the U.S. population in markets with nearly 35 million households

Portfolio: Raycom owns or manages 53 stations (51 full-power and two low-power) in 36 markets - 15 NBC, 11 CBS, 7 ABC, 13 Fox, 2 CW.

Portfolio: Tribune owns 23 full-power TV stations in 19 markets - 7 Fox, 13 CW, 1 ABC.

Portfolio: Cox owns and manages 14 full-power TV stations in nine markets - 3 Fox, 3 ABC, 3 CBS, 1 NBC.

Portfolio: Local TV LLC and FoxCo. Acquisition LLC own 21 full-power stations in 16 markets - 7 Fox, 5 CBS, 2 NBC, 2 ABC, 3 CW.

Portfolio: LIN Media owns or manages 43 stations (40 full-power and 3 low-power stations) in 23 markets - 11 CBS, 10 Fox; 7 NBC, 8 CW, 5 ABC

Portfolio: Scripps owns and manages 19 stations (14 full-powers and five low-powers) in 13 markets - 10 ABC, 3 NBC, 5 Azteca.

Portfolio: Nexstar owns or manages 72 TV stations (68 full-power and four low-power) in 41 markets - 16 NBC, 17 ABC, 12 CBS, 13 Fox, 6 CW (one is digital multicast), 1 Telemundo.

Portfolio: Media General owns or manages 19 full-power stations in 17 markets - 9 NBC; 8 CBS, 1 ABC, 1 CW.

Portfolio: Gray owns and manages 41 TV stations (35 full-powers and 6 low-powers) in 30 markets - 20 CBS, 10 NBC, 9 ABC; 5 Fox, 8 CW.

Portfolio: Post-Newsweek owns six full-power stations in six markets -2 NBC, 2 ABC, 1 CBS

Portfolio: Meredith owns or manages 13 stations (12 full-power and one low-power) in 10 markets - 6 CBS, 3 Fox, 1 NBC.

Portfolio: Journal Broadcast Group owns or manages 15 TV stations (13 full-powers and two low-powers) - 4 ABC, 3 Fox, 3 NBC, 2 CBS, 1 CW.

Portfolio: Hubbard owns seven full-power stations in six markets - 3 ABC, 3 NBC.

Portfolio: Schurz owns or manages 10 full-power TV stations in six markets - 3 CBS, 3 NBC, 1 ABC, 2 CW, 1 Univision.

Portfolio: Dispatch Broadcast owns two full-power TV stations - 1 NBC, 1 CBS


Liberal Media Broadcast Groups

Portfolio: CBS owns 30 stations (29 full-powers and one low-power) in 18 markets.

Portfolio: ABC owns eight full-power stations in eight markets - all ABC affiliates.

Portfolio: NBC owns 10 full-power stations in 10 markets - all NBC affiliates.

Portfolio: Hearst owns 29 full-power TV stations in 26 markets - 13 ABC, 10 NBC, 2 CBS, 2 CW

Portfolio: Telemundo owns 15 full-power TV stations in 15 markets - 14 are Telemundo affiliates
Do the math and tell me where this "Liberal dominated TV media" is?

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/67641/sinclair-hops-from-sixth-to-third-in-top-30/page/1
 

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Are you serious?
Reading & counting is not your forte.

Gannett Company, Inc. is a Conservative publicly traded media holding company headquartered in Tysons Corner, Virginia, near McLean in Greater Washington DC. It is the largest U.S. newspaper publisher as measured by total daily circulation.

Gannett owns or operates 46 television stations through Gannett Broadcasting, Inc. and is the largest group owner of stations affiliated with NBC and CBS.

Gannett stations now serve 83% of households in the state of Texas
http://www.stationindex.com/tv/by-owner/Gannett

http://www.gannett.com/section/WHOWEARE06

http://www.gannett.com/article/99999999/WHOWEARE/100427016/Our-Company
Cox Media Group is a Conservative integrated broadcasting, publishing, direct marketing and digital media company that includes the national advertising rep firms of CoxReps. Additionally, CMG owns Cox Target Media, which operates Valpak, one of North America’s leading direct marketing companies, and Savings.com, a leading online source for savings. The company’s operations currently include 19 broadcast television stations and one local cable channel, 88 radio stations, eight daily newspapers and more than a dozen non-daily publications, and more than 100 digital services. CMG currently operates in more than 30 media markets and reaches approximately 52 million Americans weekly, including more than 32 million TV viewers, more than 4 million print and online newspaper readers, and 18 million radio listeners.

WOKV’s popular weekday lineup of conservative talk shows will be on 104.5 FM, including Herman Cain (9 a.m. to 12 p.m.), Rush Limbaugh (noon to 3 p.m.), Sean Hannity (3 to 6 p.m.), and WOKV’s newest “super star of talk radio,” Andy Dean (6 to 9 p.m.).

http://www.coxmediagroup.com/news/c...lles-leading-radio-station-now-1045-fm/nXc6n/

http://www.stationindex.com/tv/by-owner/Cox
LIN Media is an American holding company founded in 1994 that operates 43 television stations. All except six are affiliates of the five major U.S. television networks. Five of the six remaining stations are affiliated with the syndication service MyNetworkTV and one is a low powered weather station in Indiana.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIN_Media

http://www.stationindex.com/tv/by-owner/LIN+TV
The E. W. Scripps Company is a Conservative American media conglomerate founded by Edward Willis Scripps in 1922. The company is headquartered inside the Scripps Center in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its corporate motto is "Give light and the people will find their own way.

On October 3, 2011 The E.W. Scripps Company announced it was purchasing the television arm of McGraw-Hill for $212 million. This purchase nearly doubles the number of Scripps stations to 19 with a combined reach of 13% of U.S. households.

E. W. Scripps' television division currently owns twenty-one television stations in sixteen markets; eleven ABC affiliates, three NBC affiliates, five Azteca América affiliates, E.W Scripps has acquired three more ABC affiliates. two Fox affiliates. two more NBC affiliates. two CBS affiliates. one more My Network TV affiliate. and one CW affiliate. From Journal which is expected to close in 2015. Which the total will be 32 stations

http://www.stationindex.com/tv/by-owner/E.W.+Scripps
Nexstar Broadcasting Group, Inc. is a Conservative American television broadcaster headquartered in Irving, Texas. The company's portfolio consists of 91 television stations across the U.S., most of whom are affiliates with the four "major" U.S. television networks located in small to media-sized markets. It also operates all of the stations owned by an affiliated company, Mission Broadcasting, under local marketing agreements

http://www.nexstar.tv/stations

http://www.stationindex.com/tv/by-owner/Nexstar
Media General, Inc. is a Conservative media company based in the Southeastern United States. The company was formed in 1940 when Richmond, Virginia's two newspapers, the Times-Dispatchand News Leader, merged to form Richmond Newspapers.

The Times-Dispatch has the second-highest circulation of any Virginia newspaper, after Norfolk's The Virginian-Pilot. The Times-Dispatch has historically leaned conservative.

http://www.stationindex.com/tv/by-owner/Media+General
Salem Communications is a Conservative American radio broadcaster, Internet content provider, and magazine and book publisher. Salem Communications targets audiences interested in Christian and family-themed content and conservative values.

Salem Radio Network, which syndicates talk, news and music programing to approximately 2,400 affiliates; Salem Radio Representatives, a radio advertising company; Salem Web Network, an Internet provider of Christian content and online streaming with over 100 Christian content and conservative opinion websites; and Salem Publishing, a publisher of Christian themed magazines. Salem owns 99 radio stations in 38 markets, including 60 stations in the top 25 markets and 29 in the top 10. FamilyTalk is a Christian-themed talk format on Sirius XM Radio Channel 131. Additionally, Salem owns conservative blogs Townhall.com and Hotair.com.

http://salem.cc/about-us/

http://salem.cc/stationcat/newstalk/
Gray Television, Inc. is a Conservative communications company headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia, with administrative offices in Albany, Georgia.

Gray Television currently owns 41 television stations serving 30 mainly mid-size and small-size media markets. Three of the stations are affiliated with Fox, 8 are with ABC, 10 are with NBC, one is with Antenna TV, and 19 are affiliated with CBS.

The combined Station Group has 21 stations ranked #1 in local news audience and 21 stations ranked #1 in overall audience within their respective markets based on the results of the average of the Nielsen February, May, and July and 2008 ratings reports. The combined TV Station Group reached approximately 6.1% of the total U.S.A.'s TV households.

http://www.stationindex.com/tv/by-owner/Gray+Television
Graham Media Group (formerly Post-Newsweek Stations) is the television broadcasting subsidiary of the Graham Holdings Company. It is now headquartered in Chicago, after being co-located for several years with its local NBC affiliate WDIV-TV in Detroit.

http://www.ghco.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=62487&p=irol-businessbroadcasting

http://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/...media-group-is-new-name-of-post-newsweek.html
The Meredith Corporation is an American Conservative media conglomerate based in Des Moines, Iowa,USA. The company has two divisions, National Media and Local Media.

The broadcasting division owns 15 television stations.

http://www.meredith.com/media_portfolio/broadcast.html

http://www.meredith.com/media_portfolio/magazines.html

http://www.stationindex.com/tv/by-owner/Meredith
Journal Communications, Inc. is a publicly traded Conservative media company based in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. It publishes the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, a daily newspaper, and it also owns television stations, radio stations and weekly newspapers, among other businesses.

Through Journal Broadcast Group, we own and operate 35 radio stations and 15 television stations in 12 states and operate an additional television station under a local marketing agreement.

http://www.journalcommunications.com/ourbusinesses/journal_broadcast_group.html

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/211559491.html

http://www.1170kfaq.com/

http://www.ksgf.com/

http://www.stationindex.com/tv/by-owner/Journal+Broadcast

http://www.radiolineup.com/owners/Journal-Broadcast-Group
Hubbard Broadcasting, Inc. is a Conservative American television and radio broadcasting corporation based in St. Paul, Minnesota that was started by Stanley S. Hubbard.

http://www.stationindex.com/tv/by-owner/Hubbard

http://corporate.hubbardradio.com/markets/
The Dispatch Broadcast Group is a media company based in Columbus, Ohio. The group is a division of the Dispatch Printing Company, owner of the Columbus Dispatch, and has been owned by the Wolfe family since 1929. The Dispatch Broadcast Group includes the WBNS television (CBS-affiliate WBNS-TV) and radio (WBNS (AM) and WBNS-FM) stations in Columbus, the Ohio News Network, and NBC-affiliate WTHR television in Indianapolis formerly (WLW-I) which was purchased in 1975.

The Columbus Dispatch is a daily newspaper based in Columbus, Ohio. The paper's editorial staff traditionally has had a conservative slant.
All Conservative media dominating Radio, Print, and TV. Where is the "Liberal Media"?
 

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I still think you're a paid shill.

Embers84 said:
Reading & counting is not your forte.

All Conservative media dominating Radio, Print, and TV. Where is the "Liberal Media"?
How is that even logically possible? The chosenites own 94% (or whatever crazy percentage it's up to now) of the worlds media (more power to them btw). A 10 second search shows as a voting demographic they're not exactly known for their conservative beliefs in Western countries. Are you saying statistically the majority are on the left but the ones who own and run our media are on the right? lol.
 

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Embers84 said:
Looks like you don't want to admit the truth?
Looks like you have an extreme reasoning problem. Just because a couple of articles in huffpuff (that I won't even bother to read as I've read hundreds of dishonest articles from that blog in debating political issues elsewhere) didn't lie doesn't mean the source is credible. Huffington Post is a conglomeration of leftist bloggers with little if any editorial oversight. Moreover, just because you feel Attkisson is wrong on ONE issue in a whole book, Benghazi, doesn't discount the whole book. You have repeated the same fallacy over and over in the thread.

Embers84 said:
FOX owns the majotity of stations including print and movies. It is owned by Murdoch. 6 major corporations are Conservative that combine for the largest media in the country. Fox, Sinclair, Gannett, Cox, Tribune, and Nexstar.
Are you f-ing dense? Asked and answered twice now and you just keep rattling out the same inanity. You also repeat the "corporate = conservative" fallacy over and over to boot. It's the BROADCASTERS and content on the big three that are biased. A television STATION is not a NETWORK, get that through your skull, and the NETWORKS are the source of bias. The stations' conglomerate corporate ownership has NOTHING to do with the actual leftist slanted content that ABC, CBS and NBC (and CNN) NETWORKS constantly engage in that is well-documented in DOZENS of instances in the Goldberg and Attkisson books and elsewhere.

Embers84 said:
Here is a list of Conservative TV media groups compared to Liberal TV media groups. ... The numbers and facts do not lie.
Once again, the bias is in the big three programming, the corporate parents are irrelevant. If a station carries ABC, NBC, CBS content, that is NOT a "conservative TV media group." Keep dodging on newspapers, 80-90% of which are left-slanted and Hollywood which is even more left-slanted.

Embers84 said:
Do the math and tell me where this "Liberal dominated TV media" is?
It's in the big three networks, CNN, PBS, MSNBC, 80-90% of newspapers and 90%+ of Hollywood.
 

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dasein said:
Looks like you have an extreme reasoning problem. Just because a couple of articles in huffpuff (that I won't even bother to read as I've read hundreds of dishonest articles from that blog in debating political issues elsewhere) didn't lie doesn't mean the source is credible. Huffington Post is a conglomeration of leftist bloggers with little if any editorial oversight. Moreover, just because you feel Attkisson is wrong on ONE issue in a whole book, Benghazi, doesn't discount the whole book. You have repeated the same fallacy over and over in the thread.
Not a credible source? Huffington Post accurately reported that there is no credible evidence of a Benghazi cover up that the Conservative media including Fox News and Attkisson was lying about for 2 years. This is confirmed in the House Intelligence Report that just came out. Also, Arizona Republican Senator Jeff Flake was on NBC's "Meet The Press" discussing the events telling Republicans not to pursue anymore hearings. Huffington Post accurately described that in the article unlike FOX News who said nothing about it lying about a "cover up" for 2 years.

Why shouldn't Benghazi discount the book when Atkisson was lying for 2 years trying to damage the President and his administration? If the media was so Liberal they would be talking about it 24/7 saying there is no credible evidence. I've provided actual stats, raw data, media links. You are citing a biased book with no facts, going only on the word of a biased journalist who is a confirmed liar.

dasein said:
Are you f-ing dense? Asked and answered twice now and you just keep rattling out the same inanity. You also repeat the "corporate = conservative" fallacy over and over to boot. It's the BROADCASTERS and content on the big three that are biased. A television STATION is not a NETWORK, get that through your skull, and the NETWORKS are the source of bias. The stations' conglomerate corporate ownership has NOTHING to do with the actual leftist slanted content that ABC, CBS and NBC (and CNN) NETWORKS constantly engage in that is well-documented in DOZENS of instances in the Goldberg and Attkisson books and elsewhere.

Once again, the bias is in the big three programming, the corporate parents are irrelevant. If a station carries ABC, NBC, CBS content, that is NOT a "conservative TV media group." Keep dodging on newspapers, 80-90% of which are left-slanted and Hollywood which is even more left-slanted
No, you are f-ing dense. I just provided you with links to the all the Conservative broadcasting corporations that broadcast local conservative news to it's viewers to which it admits to doing.

The majority of Conservative Media Groups own ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, CW stations in this country. They show local news 3 to 4 times a day to their audience (mostly at 4, 5, 6, 10, 11pm) that news is slanted to the right when Conservative Groups own those stations.

The conservative news directors at the local stations program conservative news that are owned by conservative media groups. 71% of Americans get their news from LOCAL news.

The 30 minute National News Broadcast at 6:30 pm is different. That is broadcasted on all the ABC, CBS. NBC networks. Most people don't watch the National News compared to their local news that is broadcasted at least 3 to 4 times a day that leans conservative on those same stations.

dasein said:
It's in the big three networks, CNN, PBS, MSNBC, 80-90% of newspapers and 90%+ of Hollywood.
MSNBC primetime drew 502,000 total viewers

CNN primetime drew 475,000 viewers


Fox News delivered 1,714,000 viewers

http://www.thewrap.com/cable-news-ratings-msnbc-draws-lowest-primetime-viewership-in-nearly-7-years/

Fox has more viewers than both CNN & MSNBC.

dasein said:
Keep dodging on newspapers, 80-90% of which are left-slanted
I already mentioned Newspapers.

Gannett Company, Inc. is a Conservative publicly traded media holding company headquartered in Tysons Corner, Virginia, near McLean in Greater Washington DC. It is the largest U.S.newspaper publisher as measured by total daily circulation.
Major Newspapers in circulation

Conservative Newspapers

The Wall Street Journal 2,378,827 Circulation
USA Today 1,674,306 Circulation
New York Post 500,521 Circulation
Denver Post 416,676 Circulation
Chicago Tribune 414,930 Circulation
Liberal Newspapers

The New York Times 1,865,318 Circulation
The Los Angeles Times 653,868 Circulation
The Washington Post 474,767 Circulation
Conservative Newspapers dominate in circulation compared to Liberal with Murdoch owning 2 papers.

Anything else you want to know?
 

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Not all of the allegations are just surfacing - two women filed a long time ago, but no one paid any mind because Cosby's image was squeaky clean. Nobody wanted to believe it.

What most people don't know is that Cosby joked about drugging girls all the time. It even made it into one of his recorded sets:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAorIG6MZnc

He also paid off two of his accusers an undisclosed amount to stay quiet. His ex-manager also came forward to corroborate some of the stories.

Nutshell: Doesn't look too good for ol' Bill
 

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DJ Logic said:
Not all of the allegations are just surfacing - two women filed a long time ago, but no one paid any mind because Cosby's image was squeaky clean. Nobody wanted to believe it.

What most people don't know is that Cosby joked about drugging girls all the time. It even made it into one of his recorded sets:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAorIG6MZnc

He also paid off two of his accusers an undisclosed amount to stay quiet. His ex-manager also came forward to corroborate some of the stories.

Nutshell: Doesn't look too good for ol' Bill

I mentioned his joke "Spanish Fly" where he was talking about drugging girls on his first records.

Thanks for posting it.

Any woman could come forward that knew him back in the day making an accusation against him.

The more women that come out the worse it gets. Especially if it's on the record he paid them off years ago with several accusers.

It doesn't look good all right. They said he still will be investigated even with it happening so many years ago.

Here is the latest on Bill counter-suing an accuser from 1974.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30343324
 
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