“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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At work there is a guy and a girl in my department. The guy looks like a skinny virgin he has probably never spoken to a woman in his life. He is soft spoken like a woman. There is a married chic who sits across from him and across from me. He helped out the married chic with training and things like that when she started in the department. Now this guy has moved on to another department.

Every day on his lunchbreak he comes into the department to talk to this woman. He sits down, they have this long talk and he leaves. He is the emotional tampon. This has been going on for at least a year. You can tell he is getting so much pleasure just because this woman will talk to him and give attention, like he has never experienced it before.

SHE IS MARRIED YOU STUPID FOOL! Maybe he needs to talk to a married woman, because he is so beta, he feels safe doing that. I don't know, I just want to ring this guys neck. I never talk to this woman or give her any attention unless she asks me something directly or needs help or something.

Don't be this guy, it's pathetic. And before you think it, there is no way in hell he is getting any action from this woman other than being her emotional tampon - and he loves it.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Why don't you have a one on one with him. Pull him to the side. Give him sample bits of the dj bible. If he becomes interested give him the full link.

You basically came to this board and create this thread for your own egotistical/narcissistic reason.

You want the world to know how you are better than him.. Blah blah blah blue vs red pill.

Next time you go to the bar and see guy with a beer in his hand leaning against the wall for hours MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

ITS ALL ABOUT MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
 

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Not everyone is ready to take the pill. Pulling him aside will do nothing to help him.

People need to realise there's a problem and ask for help. If the boy is happy being a tampon then it's no man's place to mess with that.

Poor guy probably thinks shes an actual friend!
 

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Take the red pill neoooo
 

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Sad. Point him towards the 3 R's. Roosh, Roissy, and Rollo.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Malice said:
At work there is a guy and a girl in my department. The guy looks like a skinny virgin he has probably never spoken to a woman in his life. He is soft spoken like a woman. There is a married chic who sits across from him and across from me. He helped out the married chic with training and things like that when she started in the department. Now this guy has moved on to another department.

Every day on his lunchbreak he comes into the department to talk to this woman. He sits down, they have this long talk and he leaves. He is the emotional tampon. This has been going on for at least a year. You can tell he is getting so much pleasure just because this woman will talk to him and give attention, like he has never experienced it before.

SHE IS MARRIED YOU STUPID FOOL! Maybe he needs to talk to a married woman, because he is so beta, he feels safe doing that. I don't know, I just want to ring this guys neck. I never talk to this woman or give her any attention unless she asks me something directly or needs help or something.

Don't be this guy, it's pathetic. And before you think it, there is no way in hell he is getting any action from this woman other than being her emotional tampon - and he loves it.

What exactly do you gain by talking about this guy?
 

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Tiguere said:
Why don't you have a one on one with him. Pull him to the side. Give him sample bits of the dj bible. If he becomes interested give him the full link.

You basically came to this board and create this thread for your own egotistical/narcissistic reason.

You want the world to know how you are better than him.. Blah blah blah blue vs red pill.

Next time you go to the bar and see guy with a beer in his hand leaning against the wall for hours MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

ITS ALL ABOUT MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
This is a place of employment not a club. I'm not about to pull some guy aside and try and tell him he's lame, he will probably report me for harassment. I go there so I can pay bills not teach DJ'ism.
 

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Malice said:
At work there is a guy and a girl in my department. The guy looks like a skinny virgin he has probably never spoken to a woman in his life. He is soft spoken like a woman. There is a married chic who sits across from him and across from me. He helped out the married chic with training and things like that when she started in the department. Now this guy has moved on to another department.

Every day on his lunchbreak he comes into the department to talk to this woman. He sits down, they have this long talk and he leaves. He is the emotional tampon. This has been going on for at least a year. You can tell he is getting so much pleasure just because this woman will talk to him and give attention, like he has never experienced it before.

SHE IS MARRIED YOU STUPID FOOL! Maybe he needs to talk to a married woman, because he is so beta, he feels safe doing that. I don't know, I just want to ring this guys neck. I never talk to this woman or give her any attention unless she asks me something directly or needs help or something.

Don't be this guy, it's pathetic. And before you think it, there is no way in hell he is getting any action from this woman other than being her emotional tampon - and he loves it.
Write the website of SS on a piece of paper and nail it to his desk....
 

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Do you have any reason to think he's beta besides the fact that he talks to a woman who is married on his lunch breaks?
 

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4north1side2 said:
Actually, your the pathetic one. In your 35 years of life did it ever occur to you that some people actually enjoy having genuine down to earth conversations with others with no hidden agendas?
Sure buddy, you must believe in Santa Claus too. I guarantee this guy goes home and vigorously jerks to the image of this woman in his mind.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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4north1side2 said:
did it ever occur to you that some people actually enjoy having genuine down to earth conversations with others with no hidden agendas?
lol thats a good one

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I guarantee this guy goes home and vigorously jerks to the image of this woman in his mind.
exactly
 

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ForeverAFC and Kingpin Pimp -

How can you guys be so absolutely positive that he wants to fvck this girl when you know NOTHING about EITHER of the people? You can't make assumptions like that based on literally nothing. Sometimes people like to talk to each other without trying to fvck each other...
 

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is she hot?
 

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Syrio said:
ForeverAFC and Kingpin Pimp -

How can you guys be so absolutely positive that he wants to fvck this girl when you know NOTHING about EITHER of the people? You can't make assumptions like that based on literally nothing. Sometimes people like to talk to each other without trying to fvck each other...
Let them talk.... The more they talk/assume about others... The more they reveal about themselves.
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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4north1side2 said:
Actually, your the pathetic one. In your 35 years of life did it ever occur to you that some people actually enjoy having genuine down to earth conversations with others with no hidden agendas?
This. I'm not saying he's probably not attracted to her, but the fact she's married means I doubt he's expecting anything from it. I don't know why some guys won't have female friends. They are not only great friends but provide excellent access to social circles. The hotter your friend, the hotter her friends.
 

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IndeedSir said:
This. I'm not saying he's probably not attracted to her, but the fact she's married means I doubt he's expecting anything from it. I don't know why some guys won't have female friends. They are not only great friends but provide excellent access to social circles. The hotter your friend, the hotter her friends.
Have you ever heard of orbiters? He is the most pathetic orbiter of all. Waiting for the divorce that never happens. He has this fantasy that someday she will come to him. I know what I am seeing, I don't care what you say.

Says more about you sticking up for a huge beta.
 

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A post from 2002 from someone who saw the effects of this website.
Originally posted by Donjuanpablo:
There are too many people caught up in the world of the dj on this forum and I believe it is not a healthy state to be in. Countless posts try to deem what a dj is and what or who an afc is. It is easy to get roped into world in which only djs and afcs exist and I think that is a reason why so many newbies post advice. They learn the essence of what a dj is and therefore can answer any post with simple mathematices, is it dj or is it afc. It gets to the stage where the mental effort that goes into thinking about women and don juansim takes over thinking about life etc. I know, I’ve been there, and its a dangerous way to live. People get roped in to dedicating a life to a forum with people in which they have no proof exist. The amount of time and effort that goes into this forum begins to take away from the essence of what it is actually is, life.
Original source www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13386
 

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Malice said:
Have you ever heard of orbiters? He is the most pathetic orbiter of all. Waiting for the divorce that never happens. He has this fantasy that someday she will come to him. I know what I am seeing, I don't care what you say.

Says more about you sticking up for a huge beta.
Geez what do you have against "betas"? Most people on this forum have beta ways or was a beta a some point. If anything, being around a beta male will make you look better(provided you aren't one yourself).

Putting some guy down because he's talking to a girl he can't pull is pretty stupid. Does this situation negatively affect you in anyway?
 

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TheCleanPleb said:
Geez what do you have against "betas"? Most people on this forum have beta ways or was a beta a some point. If anything, being around a beta male will make you look better(provided you aren't one yourself).

Putting some guy down because he's talking to a girl he can't pull is pretty stupid. Does this situation negatively affect you in anyway?
Yes, it annoys me seeing him lick her butt and follow her around like a dog, while he enthusiastically fills the orbiter role to a married chic.

Syrio said:
Do you have any reason to think he's beta besides the fact that he talks to a woman who is married on his lunch breaks?


I can tell he is beta, I used to work with him. He has never had a girlfriend, he is soft spoken like a woman, he's a nerd and most likely a virgin.

GS750 said:
is she hot?

Not really.

I am posting this because there are million of guys like this, maybe they can see this post and see the light. Instead of orbiting married women, go talk to single ones. It's pathetic. I love how people read this thread and they think they can read the situation better than me, when I am there witnessing it all.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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