"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Big smiles are a bad thing with women?

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Are big smiles a bad thing with women?
I've noticed this week when smiling at an attractive woman or talking to her, sometimes I'll do a big smile without realizing it until I did it.
Example 1: At a store shopping, I smile at a cute young woman to gauge her interest level. Got no smile back and I realized I had a big grin when I smiled.

Example 2: Was counting change out for a cute cashier, she dropped part of my change and a moment later I told her "We're done counting change" with once again, a big grin. No smile nor response.

I think this big grin coming out may be approval seeking behavior by me. I've noticed I have this default mode of doing things without risk around women and sometimes falling into approval seeking behavior. I'm trying to smile well, but not near as big and work on that.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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This is a harsh truth but they weren't attracted to you. Trust me, if David Beckham flashed a smile at them in the grocery store, they wouldn't just flash a big sh!t eating smile, they would take off their panties and spread their legs right there and then. :woo:
 
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I think smiling is good when first meeting a woman but don't overdo it. Switch it up to laughter when you start talking to her. IMO just sitting there with a big ole' cheesy smile and nothing else is not going to be attractive to women, in general. But if you can make them laugh so hard they pee themselves and you laugh hard too, now you are onto something :up:

Also, keep in mind that when an alpha man doesn't smile he creates the perception with the insecure people around him (women and beta men) that something is bothering him. Thus the insecure betas men and women wonder if it is their fault as to why he is displeased and will likely try to submit to him and get on his good side. When I first walk into a new place with new people I don't smile at anyone at first. For the women who smile at me, I smile back and nod. For the men who acknowledge me first in whatever manor, I just nod at them but don't smile. This is all just me and how I personally do it.
 

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I've come to learn that when it comes to male attractiveness, RESERVE is our most powerful tool. Women emote freely. We are opposite... we emote on a token basis.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I've come to learn that there is better thing to worry in life than whether to smile at a female stranger or not.

Cure the core problem, not the symptoms.
 

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lol there is a study that says women are more attracted to less smily men, and many guys read that, and now assume you must not smile lmao

that study dont take facial beauty into account

all men are more attractive when smiling a little more, you look more approachable, less intimidating, more open, people will talk to you more, etc

this is true for guys like me, who have a very masculine facial features, and serious looking face because of it
 

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Smirk instead with your eyes communicating, "I want you in bed".
 

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It means you are impressed by them or something. You don't want to act too keen straight away. If the woman fancies you for whatever like for eg you are hotter then her, then you can get away with anything.
 

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I like to maintain a straight face before starting the conversation, but once we begin speaking I keep a smirk on my face.. Not sure how to explain. It's like a slight smile but the eyes look like I'm smiling. It makes them comfortable and enhances my dimples a bit. You don't want to cheese at a girl just like you wouldn't at anyone. That looks plain retarded.

Some dudes talk to girls with a straight face the whole time, but I can't do that. I have a very expressive face and personality so I can't help but smile flirting with a hb, I've learned to keep it to that light smirk at least. (credit my uncle, watching him work his magic)
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Someone above said that smiling makes you seem more open, less intimidating, etc. I kinda of like to seem more intimidating so I have toned down my smiles a bit. As best I can recall, though, I didn't do it for women.
 

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I used to experiment with big, friendly smiles and I think they made me look weak. It's too giving. Men should always appear as if they're holding back a bit, granting some acknowledgment but requiring that a person prove themselves to earn full acknowledgment. My natural face is somewhat stern and I don't naturally smile; therefore I realized I had to practice a measured smile.

A full-on smile leaves nothing in reserve. Reserve and deliberate body language is very attractive and garners respect from both genders.

Think of Clint Eastwood in a spaghetti western acknowledging someone with just a slight, barely perceptible nod. Why is that so much cooler than an emotive, excited, "Hey, Charlie, how you doing?!"

Think about every man of influence you know. He conveys reserve and thereby automatically conveys that he is top dog, the one who controls his interactions.

My "sweet spot" when it comes to smiling is a slight hint of a smile, top teeth showing slightly, a bit of a smirk (one corner is higher than the other), and a slitting of the eyes, which is very powerful.

This works well for me in one-on-one situations, but still to this day I catch myself being too emotive and giving of myself in social situations. Sometimes I'm appalled at how I completely forget everything I've learned and become over-friendly (translate: giving).

Powerful men don't give freely and emote like women, who give themselves away in a flow. Men of power and influence always appear to be throttling their giving.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
I used to experiment with big, friendly smiles and I think they made me look weak. It's too giving. Men should always appear as if they're holding back a bit, granting some acknowledgment but requiring that a person prove themselves to earn full acknowledgment. My natural face is somewhat stern and I don't naturally smile; therefore I realized I had to practice a measured smile.

A full-on smile leaves nothing in reserve. Reserve and deliberate body language is very attractive and garners respect from both genders.

Think of Clint Eastwood in a spaghetti western acknowledging someone with just a slight, barely perceptible nod. Why is that so much cooler than an emotive, excited, "Hey, Charlie, how you doing?!"

Think about every man of influence you know. He conveys reserve and thereby automatically conveys that he is top dog, the one who controls his interactions.

My "sweet spot" when it comes to smiling is a slight hint of a smile, top teeth showing slightly, a bit of a smirk (one corner is higher than the other), and a slitting of the eyes, which is very powerful.

This works well for me in one-on-one situations, but still to this day I catch myself being too emotive and giving of myself in social situations. Sometimes I'm appalled at how I completely forget everything I've learned and become over-friendly (translate: giving).

Powerful men don't give freely and emote like women, who give themselves away in a flow. Men of power and influence always appear to be throttling their giving.
Some great info there :up:.

Very important to stay in complete control of your interaction with a woman. The rest is just icing on the cake.

Also judging by your sweet spot, it sounds like we have a similar facial structure lol. Unless of course that's a universal sweet spot.
 
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