"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Big Mouthed Women

london_lad1986

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Guys,

Anyone had experience with Women who have big mouths? And tell people things they shouldn't?

I went with a Girl @ work about 2 months ago....then recently I got ridiculously drunk at a party and she looked after me...I woke up in her bed and couldn't remember a thing....

Neeless to say that everyone else I work with knew I had tried ot have sex with her and kept her up by slapping her ass etc........which I didn't even remember

I didn't confront her I just told the lads what she was like in bed (boring) and stuff...

Is this wrong doing tit for tat? Or just punishment for her telling details of private things?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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PDubb75

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You could have just titled this thread "women", and asked if any of us have experienced women.

They all do that. Gossip is their drug.

Don't get in a back and forth battle between who did or didn't do what. Just shrug it off. Chances are, shes probably right, anyway. If you were that drunk, and in her bed, I don't know what straight guy wouldn't do what she said.
 

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I wouldn't have reacted. And I definitely wouldn't have said anything about her to any other guys. It was just your ego getting in the way because it felt bruised, it's natural - most guys would react in a similar way...

Don't be most guys ; )
 

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neilward2 said:
I wouldn't have reacted. And I definitely wouldn't have said anything about her to any other guys. It was just your ego getting in the way because it felt bruised, it's natural - most guys would react in a similar way...

Don't be most guys ; )
I agree with this. You shouldn't have retaliated. Seeing as you could not remember what happened your best bet would have been to just brush off the whole thing like it never even happy.

-Gamtiwia
 

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why were you slapping her ass at work? not a smart move

there are a lot of fat obnoxious women around

they got a big mouth and like to be bossy

those chicks are large and want to be in charge

they pick the weak little men to boss around
 
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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GameTime76 said:
Better to be talked about than ignored.
Better to be silent with a job than homeless with a sexual harassment charge on your record.
 

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Just change the subject if it comes up, or better yet walk away and go back to work. By talking about it, you are adding more fuel to the gossip fire.

Women in the workplace LOVE gossip. 99 percent of them can't keep a secret to save their lives. (If she's fat, mutiply the gossip/big mouth factor by AT LEAST 10. I don't know why that is, but trust me on this.) Even with that rare female friend that can keep a secret, you are taking a big risk discussing sex in the workplace because someone you don't trust can overhear it and report it. People easedrop in the workplace big time to secure more gossip fuel.

Honestly, I wouldn't trust guys in the workplace much more. With today's feminized men, a lot of them gossip too. If you must discuss your hookups, tell a best guy friend that you don't work with.

But to answer your original question, yes I do have experience telling women things I shouldn't. So I'm speaking from experience here.

While I strongly discourage any future hookups with coworkers, there is also something attractive about the guy who is gossiped about AND he doesn't kiss and tell. As a practical matter, you are lowering your value/attractiveness by discussing it.
 

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Zodiac said:
Better to be silent with a job than homeless with a sexual harassment charge on your record.
You obviously dont understand the point I made..

Second, there was no a$$ slapping at work. What happend was OUTSIDE of work. Him and a co-worker were at a party. He got drunk and she let him stay the night with her. Him being drunk was trying to get some action. Then she goes off gossiping about that night like all girls do.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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GameTime76 said:
You obviously dont understand the point I made..

Second, there was no a$$ slapping at work. What happend was OUTSIDE of work. Him and a co-worker were at a party. He got drunk and she let him stay the night with her. Him being drunk was trying to get some action. Then she goes off gossiping about that night like all girls do.
I got what was said and you don't realize because it never happened to you that even actions that happen outside of work can be considered sexual harassment and have reactions inside of work. Just ask the guys that get fired for dating co-workers when the girl states after a night of partying such and such event happened when in reality it didn't.
 

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Why do you even talk to this girl? If anyone (not just a woman) went around spreading negative stuff about me at work or anywhere that's something that I don't forgive.

The moment you let a woman disrespect you is the moment her respect for you is likely gone forever. You should have put her in her place then cut off all contact with her. Delete her from your phone, no more hanging out. She is no longer a friend she is deleted from your life.

It's shocking the amount of disrespect men in this site put up with women. It's a sign of low self value. Your image, your integrity, your pride, those are things that you need to protect with your life. But now a days men just let any woman walk all over them and spit on their face.

If any woman disrespects you either openly to your face or behind your back you need to check her IMMEDIATELY! Don't think this is exagerating in fact women love this! This is another form of a sh|t test to see how far they can push the envelope to see if you will put them in their place. To see if you're a real man or wussy. Women subconsciously love it when a man puts them in their place.
 

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f283000 said:
Why do you even talk to this girl? If anyone (not just a woman) went around spreading negative stuff about me at work or anywhere that's something that I don't forgive.

The moment you let a woman disrespect you is the moment her respect for you is likely gone forever. You should have put her in her place then cut off all contact with her. Delete her from your phone, no more hanging out. She is no longer a friend she is deleted from your life.

It's shocking the amount of disrespect men in this site put up with women. It's a sign of low self value. Your image, your integrity, your pride, those are things that you need to protect with your life. But now a days men just let any woman walk all over them and spit on their face.

If any woman disrespects you either openly to your face or behind your back you need to check her IMMEDIATELY! Don't think this is exagerating in fact women love this! This is another form of a sh|t test to see how far they can push the envelope to see if you will put them in their place. To see if you're a real man or wussy. Women subconsciously love it when a man puts them in their place.
First of all I totally agree with everything you said in this post, the only way to educate bullies is bully them.
Anyway what would have you done exactly being you in his place?
 

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In my experience it's actually guys who seem to be worse for passing gossip on, but I can spot a mile off the girls who will spread things and those who won't. Anyway, yeah, people are terrible for it ESPECIALLY in the work place, and I imagine it's because there's nothing else to talk about in the workplace because you're thrown together with people you may not usually hang out with (unless you become good friends with some of them). The only people you all know are fellow coworkers, so naturally people talk about them because your coworkers are a thing in common.
You've got to be very careful what and who you talk about and to, equally I would suggest never spreading gossip yourself, like you have done. The less you gossip the more you're told by other people and in the workplace this is helpful, this whole forum is about being socially apt and the more you know about someone the more socially apt you can be towards that individual. Also it's very good to develop a trustworthy and reliable reputation, and gossip (or lack of spreading) can really add to that (and equally take away).
 
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