"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Guy's many of you know this, but NO GOOD comes from talking or trying to get back with the EX.

Let's take me back last weekend, i was able to approach for the first time in my life, i was also able to get some numbers and i felt ON TOP of the world.

Thing's could'nt get much better, i mean i did the one thing i'd been wanting to do all my life.
I conquered that side of me and i tell ya, the feeling was like ecstacy (not that i've ever done that)

Ok

NOW FORWARD 1 ... yes 1 WEEK!!!

Ok so i had me a week of talking with my ex, she currently has a boyfriend ..
Now she has ALOT of power over me, you see non like all the one night stands and the women i've felt nothing for ... she was my FIRST girlfriend and i care about her, i shared feelings with her that i'd never had in my life.

I'm a mess, she was saying all week how she's been dreaming of me and that she loves me and wants me etc... now i basically said all week that if you think you love me then drop the bf ( the guy she said she never has sex with)

But she said she would'nt drop him as i deserve better than her and that she want's me to be happy and that she could never make me be.

So i called her out on this and told her it's bull**** ....

Forward to today and the first txt she send's is "thinking of you" ....

Guy's this ****ing me up bigtime ... have any of you guy's had this with ex's and how did you get past it?.

Is there ANYTHING i could do or say to reverse roles and make her angry or sad? :D
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Demonicale said:
Is there ANYTHING i could do or say to reverse roles and make her angry or sad? :D
yes ignore her
stop replying to her , she will soon stop bothering when she realises she isnt getting anything out of you.... at the moment you are biting on her bait and hook....so she is playing wiht you

NO CONTACT at all , if you get anything delete it, delete her # as well, even her FB friend with you.
 

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yes ignore her
stop replying to her , she will soon stop bothering when she realises she isnt getting anything out of you.... at the moment you are biting on her bait and hook....so she is playing wiht you

NO CONTACT at all , if you get anything delete it, delete her # as well, even her FB friend with you.
You know how difficult that is, i mean she works in the same hospital as me so i'm gonna end up bumping into her.

Maybe i could start maybe missing txts, like purposely ignore a few?... ok maybe this sounds bad, but i WANT her to know when i hook up with other women .. i want HER to feel how i've felt!.
 

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So she is supposedly in a platonic relationship with the new guy? Yeah whatever.

First things first, you tell us not to be in contact with the Ex, yet you're asking us how to make her miserable and uncomfortable? Dude, just forget this clown, you brang the drama on yourself just having contact with her, the only contact you should be having with an ex is "Hi & Bye" mate. Why are you asking her to drop her boyfriend? Are you that gullable when she still tells you she loves you, she has a boyfriend and tells you she still loves you? Am I not seeing something you're not?

This girl is a Bi-polar, next thing you know she'll say she had sex with the new guy, when she is already.
 

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So she is supposedly in a platonic relationship with the new guy? Yeah whatever.

First things first, you tell us not to be in contact with the Ex, yet you're asking us how to make her miserable and uncomfortable? Dude, just forget this clown, you brang the drama on yourself just having contact with her, the only contact you should be having with an ex is "Hi & Bye" mate. Why are you asking her to drop her boyfriend? Are you that gullable when she still tells you she loves you, she has a boyfriend and tells you she still loves you? Am I not seeing something you're not?

This girl is a Bi-polar, next thing you know she'll say she had sex with the new guy, when she is already.
I know what your saying is true, it's just hard when it's someone you've been with... i guess i'm just in need of someone telling me the truth and explaining to me what she get's out of being like that?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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She's probably not too happy with her new guy and looking for a new branch to swing at. ALL she needs from you is some emotional validation that she is still the ****.

You could try something on these lines: ''I always had a special spot for you, but you are right. Things have been going better for me than ever before and I'd like someone awesome to share the ride with. There's this really cute girl... you know, I'll always be grateful to you for making me move up the world...'

Hm. Too passive aggressive maybe. Could give it a shot.

Anyways, she doesn't want you at all. Don't kid yourself.
 

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She IS AN ATTENTION HOR! Of course she is not going to drop the boyfriend. You do know women play this game all the time right? They keep men as orbiters because they get high off the attention they get from men. While you are struggling with your emotions like a WIMP she is over there feeling good about herself knowing you still want her. So while you are thinking about her and feeling bad about yourself she will be getting porked by her bf.

This is all a game women play and it's a cruel game to sort of get revenge on your a$$ by playing with your emotions. But at the end this is all your fault brother. It's your fault for keeping in touch with women from your past when you should be moving on.

Moving on means deleting them from your facebook, myspace, msn, im, CELL PHONE and never initiating contact with them and ignoring their messages. Just remember that when you don't do any of those things you are acceping HER CONTRACT (which is being one of her girlfriends, orbiters, emotional tampon etc) when you might not want to be any of those things. You never have to accept a woman's contract it's up to you. Don't be coming over here complaining about this or about her when you are the one at fault. Getting rid of a woman from your life is not that difficult but mentally some afcs are not strong enough.
 

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She IS AN ATTENTION HOR! Of course she is not going to drop the boyfriend. You do know women play this game all the time right? They keep men as orbiters because they get high off the attention they get from men. While you are struggling with your emotions like a WIMP she is over there feeling good about herself knowing you still want her. So while you are thinking about her and feeling bad about yourself she will be getting porked by her bf.

This is all a game women play and it's a cruel game to sort of get revenge on your a$$ by playing with your emotions. But at the end this is all your fault brother. It's your fault for keeping in touch with women from your past when you should be moving on.

Moving on means deleting them from your facebook, myspace, msn, im, CELL PHONE and never initiating contact with them and ignoring their messages. Just remember that when you don't do any of those things you are acceping HER CONTRACT (which is being one of her girlfriends, orbiters, emotional tampon etc) when you might not want to be any of those things. You never have to accept a woman's contract it's up to you. Don't be coming over here complaining about this or about her when you are the one at fault. Getting rid of a woman from your life is not that difficult but mentally some afcs are not strong enough.

I think your spot on here, the ONLY reason i've got her number and she's on my facebook is that i'll be 100% honest with you guy's...

I know you would'nt agree with it, but i feel the need for some revenge of some sort.
I really know i should know better and that i'm acting like a kid, but i'm hurt at the moment and i'm manning up ... but i WANT HER to feel bad about treating me like this.

I put this status on my Facebook just now and got a txt from her 10mins later ... to which i've not even looked at as i just turned my phone off.

" Is feeling ALOT better, because i'm now going to clear my conscious, and put a line through everything past and present, basically meaning ... i've "Hid?,Bent?,Manipulated?" some thing's that i now want to put behind me ....


I would say i'm sorry in advance, but really ... i'm not!"



That's my current status lol .... and i was being honest, i DO want to spill everything i've done to people.
When i was with her i did kiss 2 other women, nothing else though.

But i may spill about the fact i've had like 10 partners since her and did have a fkbuddy up untill last night ( she figured me out lol )
 

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Demonicale said:
You know how difficult that is, i mean she works in the same hospital as me so i'm gonna end up bumping into her.

Maybe i could start maybe missing txts, like purposely ignore a few?... ok maybe this sounds bad, but i WANT her to know when i hook up with other women .. i want HER to feel how i've felt!.
dont get all pathetic trying to get back-at-her

if you do this SHE is winning and has a hold on you , as your life is about her - in a wierd way
Neither are you MOVING ON or IMPROVING yourself, the only one who misses out is YOU...

and dont put winy message on facebook, no one will feel sorry for you, she will feel good you are down.
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the best revenge is to see you (or find out thru grapevine) happy with better and hotter women - lots of them

be civil if u see her, a but indiffferend and she'll hate it if she thinks she means "nothing" to you...
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This girl is a Bi-polar, next thing you know she'll say she had sex with the new guy, when she is already.
Nah shes not,
she is just toying with her ex bf keeping him in orbit keeping him dependednt on her (many many women do this), and he is taking the bait again and again, instead of moving on...
 

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dont get all pathetic trying to get back-at-her

if you do this SHE is winning and has a hold on you , as your life is about her - in a wierd way
Neither are you MOVING ON or IMPROVING yourself, the only one who misses out is YOU...

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the best revenge is to see you (or find out thru grapevine) happy with better and hotter women - lots of them

be civil if u see her, a but indiffferend and she'll hate it if she thinks she means "nothing" to you...

If someone had hurt you big time, i'm sure their is a part of you that's CRAVES some kind of retribution?.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Demonicale said:
If someone had hurt you big time, i'm sure their is a part of you that's CRAVES some kind of retribution?.
every one has been hurt at some point before,
ive wanted to get back - but i realised it wont do anything positive...
 

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every one has been hurt at some point before,
ive wanted to get back - but i realised it wont do anything positive...

i'll do my "best" not to try and get back at her, but at the moment the feeling is overpowering.
 

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If someone had hurt you big time, i'm sure their is a part of you that's CRAVES some kind of retribution?.
The type of retribution you are trying to get does not hurt women because you are playing right into their hands. You are playing with emotions which is their playing field. The only thing that makes women burn inside is seeing you with better and hotter women in your life like the brother mentioned.
 

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The type of retribution you are trying to get does not hurt women because you are playing right into their hands. You are playing with emotions which is their playing field. The only thing that makes women burn inside is seeing you with better and hotter women in your life like the brother mentioned.

Yeah your right, i can manage that, but for the short term maybe letting it slip i've had ton's of one night stands which i have may hurt her alittle?...

You know i guess i know what everyone is saying ...

it's just she keeps txting me, so she wants to continue treating like a ****!
 

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stop being a chump. she is playing you.

the best thing you can do, is to forget about her. delete her number. do not talk to her. do not respond to text. hell i'd change the number.

note, that does not mean be an *******.

when you go off being an ******* to them they know they still got you. you are just showing it ina different way

do not go aorund flunting any success. don't talk about it, be about it.

becuase it's a pretty pathetic guy that ****s other women just to tell another woman about it. how good od you think that makes her feel? man he's ****ign women just to try to get back at me that's soo sweet. don't give her that validation.

be civil, crack a joke or two and move on. show that they are no sweat off your back



THAT..


is how you make someone feel like utter ****. just move the hell on


you run into her say hi and keep going. be civil but that's it. dont' have an extended conversation with her. forget about her.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

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You need to ignore her texts how is this so hard? BTW you mentioned already having lots of women after her. If you are going to be using facebook post pictures of yourself having a good time. Post pictures of yourself with other women, having a good time with friends etc. Don't be putting status comments of you feeling down or sad. That's not going to burn her but what will is seeing pics of you with hot women at clubs, bars and overall having a good time without her.
 

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i don't use facebook at all (believe it or not) is there anyway you could block her from viewing his page? i'd even take it there.

you have to be militant about this ****.

lol you don' t know how many women i've dated and things went south and then i'd here through the grapevine "such and such was asking about you.. you just dropped off the face of the earth, she wants to know if you are okay"

when a woman acts an ass i want nothing whatsoever tod o with them even if that means being single.
 

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You need to ignore her texts how is this so hard? BTW you mentioned already having lots of women after her. If you are going to be using facebook post pictures of yourself having a good time. Post pictures of yourself with other women, having a good time with friends etc. Don't be putting status comments of you feeling down or sad. That's not going to burn her but what will is seeing pics of you with hot women at clubs, bars and overall having a good time without her.

THANKYOU, that is sound advice as that's what i was thinking, ok guys i won't be a **** to her.

But what do i do if i get txts from her like "i'm thinking of you?" i don't want to outright ignore her....

And yeah, i'll get me some pics downtown.
 

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THANKYOU, that is sound advice as that's what i was thinking, ok guys i won't be a **** to her.

But what do i do if i get txts from her like "i'm thinking of you?" i don't want to outright ignore her....

And yeah, i'll get me some pics downtown.
dude you are freaking pathetic.

you aren't trying to move on you are trying to get back in her good graces. you want pictures for no other reason than to hope she "realizes her mistake" and comes running back to you so you can live happily ever after.
 

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dude you are freaking pathetic.

you aren't trying to move on you are trying to get back in her good graces.

I won't, and i won't try to get her back or annoy her ... i'm gonna move on now.

Tonight i'm out, and i'll prove it by getting numbers!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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